[TheRandomOne]

Since we're on the topic, anyone want to share how to counter "cheese" strategies such as bunker or photon cannon rush?

[OxygeN]

Originally Posted by TheRandomOne

Since we're on the topic, anyone want to share how to counter "cheese" strategies such as bunker or photon cannon rush?

as terran?

[Plexa]

There are two sides to this, while one base timing pushes (it better describes the strategies you used) are an effective means of winning games, they're not very good practice tools for your average person. They get results, but eventually you'll run into players who can fend off the timing push and then since they are more experienced in mid-late game play they will be able to defeat you. So while it gets results in the short term, in the long term it can really hurt your gameplay.

Obviously in tournaments these strategies are great at getting wins - especially when people are still learning the game. But they're really bad at making you improve (well improve anything other than the execution of your timing push) since most of the time you are not playing a midgame or a lategame, hence these one base timing pushes are bad for practice (whether that's laddering or massing custom games). The same can be said about 4warpgate players - it gets wins now, but will they be able to compete 6 months down the line when people know exactly how to counter that and the strategy becomes obsolete?

People get frustrated with one base play in tournaments because they've practice their standard play and believe that their overall gameplay is superior to yours. Meh, it doesn't matter at the end of the day - winning is all that matters. Other players from the outside make the same judgement - "oh he has no real skill because he just timing pushes every game". There is a very real difference between timing pushing because you choose to, and timing pushing because it's the only thing you can do. It's the difference between Nal_ra and ever)P(TT, Boxer and UpMagic, Jaedong and Kwanro etc.

[Lovestoned412]

couldnt agree more to this thread. Sick of hearing OP and cheese. Whatever it takes to win a game. i just just to a terran who fly off his base after i destroyed his army and drop on my main on my nexus. i have not enough money to build another nexus, he just island and banshee me -_-

[eraft]

Originally Posted by TheRandomOne

Since we're on the topic, anyone want to share how to counter "cheese" strategies such as bunker or photon cannon rush?

I only can think of one thing: Scout, Scout and Scout.

If Bunker, you can try to target the scv, destroy it before the bunker is done,
PC rush or Proxy gateway, i will aways try to target the pylons.

Remember to continue to build your units will you are doing all that, you should be fine.

Well, back to topic. As for me I am a firm believer of whatever it takes to win (Other then cheating via map hack etc.). Even losing to cheese, i just live and learn, try to defend it or use it next time