[nirvAnA]

I watched the whole video but didn't really get where the ownage was. Maybe cause I don't understand the context or history, can anyone please explain it to me? Thanks!

[dippa]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

I watched the whole video but didn't really get where the ownage was. Maybe cause I don't understand the context or history, can anyone please explain it to me? Thanks!

dodging of questions/answering questions that weren't asked and just not shifting away from the talking points - three things leigh sales (journo) kept exposing with the questioning

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	NOM:	and his hands were shaking haha
	ROOT`iaguz:	oh right Deth's a journo student he probably got a massive hard on watching that.

[ZizLah]

politics has been ruined by the media, as weird as that sounds.

in order to compress the arguments into short clips, so they could run other news items that would support their sponsors and backers, they relied on soundbytes.

Politics in australia is nothing but them trying to spout what ever soundbite they think will go more viral and further their agenda.
the truth died a long time ago unfortunately.

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

I watched the whole video but didn't really get where the ownage was. Maybe cause I don't understand the context or history, can anyone please explain it to me? Thanks!

She led him with 3 questions detailing where he's grossly miss-informed the public for his agenda and pulled him up short everytime he was wrong. then moves to the question "are politicians playing fast and loose with the truth" to which he responds that julia gillard is, before she pulls him up with the fact that every question he'd answered was completely made up bullshit.

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nirvAnA:

ty!

[NOM]

@iaguz Deth doesn't get a hard on from idiots.

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TAEdgE:

at least we have discovered through this that you are smart nom

[Haza]

Well, all politicians are 'loose with the truth'. Eg: "There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead".

Yes the ABC is biased and if you've seen The Drum forums... very very biased in favour of the left.

Now lets consider 'abbott the idiot' who everyone goes on about as a total idiot unable to manage Australia's economy, well at least Abbott has an economics degree unlike the treasurer who only has one in the arts of all places.. Abbott isn't an idiot, but sometimes the media makes the rhode scholar look like an arse.

Well, that's my opinion at least.

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ETL.ViTaL:

^ The man knows what his talking about

[ikki]

I wish sc2sea had more political discussions

Originally Posted by Haza

Well, all politicians are 'loose with the truth'. Eg: "There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead".

Yes the ABC is biased and if you've seen The Drum forums... very very biased in favour of the left.

Now lets consider 'abbott the idiot' who everyone goes on about as a total idiot unable to manage Australia's economy, well at least Abbott has an economics degree unlike the treasurer who only has one in the arts of all places.. Abbott isn't an idiot, but sometimes the media makes the rhode scholar look like an arse.

Well, that's my opinion at least.

The ABC forums are bias or the station is? (just curious)

I wonder if Abbotts economics degree would have made that mine in SA go ahead?

Abbott isn't unintelligent but he doesn't do himself any favors.

I think swan has done really well all things considered look at Greece and America

[ZizLah]

Originally Posted by Haza

Well, all politicians are 'loose with the truth'. Eg: "There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead".

Yes the ABC is biased and if you've seen The Drum forums... very very biased in favour of the left.

Stop right there.

are you comparing a forum, to a television station?
a television station thats funded with tax money and has no commercial incentives...... as biased?
ABC is hands down one of the best tv stations in the world, and i ask you, what do you think is the ABC's core age/sex demographic and then answer me again whether you think it panders to the left.

The point is that Abbots entire political philosophy is buzzwords, catch phrases which can be quickly recorded and played over commercial radio and TV in 5 second clips, only thing is 95% of the time he's talking out his ass or not letting the truth spoil a good story.

For instance this constant attacks about boat people. People with nothing trying to seek ASYLUM in our country, something that they are more then legally able to do. Then we accept a pitiful amount compared to other major county's in the world and send them to places we're they're legally not seen as human being's because we wanna act tough.
all the while ignoring the fact that 95% of all people here (that actually come here illegally) COME IN ON PLANES on visas and NEVER GO HOME.

But those people with rags on there heads and in rickety boats THEY'RE AUSTRALIAS NUMBER ONE ISSUE.

Jesus i wish people weren't so easily mislead and distracted.

[Haza]

Originally Posted by nicknack

The ABC forums are bias or the station is? (just curious)

No, I used that as an example of how that station facilitates the extremist views of its audience.

Originally Posted by ZizLah

all the while ignoring the fact that 95% of all people here (that actually come here illegally) COME IN ON PLANES on visas and NEVER GO HOME.

Originally Posted by ZizLah

only thing is 95% of the time he's talking out his ass or not letting the truth spoil a good story.

I feel like you're making up statistics 95% of the time.

Originally Posted by ZizLah

ABC is hands down one of the best tv stations in the world

Personal bias is shining through here.

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+1

[ikki]

Originally Posted by Haza

No, I used that as an example of how that station facilitates the extremist views of its audience.


I feel like you're making up statistics 95% of the time.

Personal bias is shining through here.

"it is likely that between 96 and 99 percent of asylum applicants arrived by air." source - http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/libra...sylumfacts.pdf

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It doesn't matter if most people seeking asylum come by plan thousands of people have died getting there by boat

[TASlowHands]

How would lube help?

[TABjornbrandr]

Originally Posted by Haza

No, I used that as an example of how that station facilitates the extremist views of its audience..

I'd hardly call the ABC a station that facilitates for extremist views. You do realise that as a public station it's required to be as impartial as possible. Shows like Media Watch are probably the best example of this. When you look at programs like "A Current Affair" and "Today Tonight", you'd certainly be forgiven for labelling those as facilitating extremist views. Shows like those two pander to the racist, patriot, naive and often 'religiously-tuned'; they focus on emotive stories in order to drum up hatred and anger against a specific minority so as to further the conservative agenda.

Have a look at the video on this page - might learn something

I'd love to hear some of your political opinions, chances are I could easily label any of those as extremist - where you sit is what you see.

[Haza]

Good to see some attention coming me, a new member of these forums, this is my first thread I've talked in, on SC2SEA. I'll try to get back to as many of you as possible. Thanks

Originally Posted by nicknack

"it is likely that between 96 and 99 percent of asylum applicants arrived by air." source - http://www.aph.gov.au/binaries/libra...sylumfacts.pdf

Atleast you had the heart to admit that you made up the statistic

Originally Posted by TABjornbrandr

I'd hardly call the ABC a station that facilitates for extremist views. You do realise that as a public station it's required to be as impartial as possible.

Yes but:
ALP= Pro public sector spending
LNP= Anti-public sector spending
Conflict of interest.
I hope you like my totally reasonable conspiracy theory.

@Dippa
Ok, I never said the ABC itself was extremist, it is however the most accommodating for the left wing and thus in terms of media as a whole attracts the majority of people from the left and beyond.

Originally Posted by dippa

the drum = centre-left

This for example, The Drum itself isn't extremist, but there is a lot of people on those forums who intend to rant on anyone not affiliated with their views.. and the Drum (part of the ABC) allows this to occur within their website.