[Peleus]

Really want to put my 2c in, but scared it will create a shit storm so here we go. Please remember that I'm only representing MY opinion not SPRs, and looking for a rational discussion surrounding the issue. I also have no influence over who SPR decides to field, that's up to the managers. Now hopefully the shitstorm disclaimers are out of the way....

Why is it we have no standardized rule for who is eligible and who is not? What is considered 'active' on the server? Keep in mind a few things though...

Many of the SPR members (i.e. ych, tiger) were in SPR long before any mention of seacl2 was made, meaning they have a history with the clan and it's not just someone post league announcement joining quickly merc style and playing a heap of matches to get eligible. Hell even look in the masters cup rule thread and you'll specifically see them mentioned as active sea players. My point I suppose is that active players will be considered subjective, having a clear rule (I.e. xyz amount of games in preceding season before announcement) could solve some of these issues, and set a clear precedent going forward. Don't forget this tournament looks great, but it's also about setting up the future of seacl, so if we don't lay down clear and objective rules this shitfight may happen every season (not just with SPR).

Unclear rules I think are what's causing the most issues.

Originally i beleive reasons given for their exclusion is they were on teams, and therefore ineligable. No worries, but other players are playing for clans who are on teams also.

They don't play on SEA enough people say. Ok, but many people master mentioned have played 100's of games on the SEA server. If you're going to use games on SEA as a benchmark why is tgun playing? Yes shitstorm inc from that statement, but I believe his account has only played ~10 or so games in the last two seasons on SEA. Before people go batshit crazy I'm NOT suggesting tgun should be ineligable, I'm mearly pointing out that its strange some people can play more on SEA yet not be considered part of the community simply because their english isn't the best and not conducive to posting on sc2sea.

Finally what about tournaments you say? Clearly tgun etc commonly plays in more sc2sea tournaments showing they are a part of the sc2sea community? Yes, youre right clearly they aren't actively joining in the community there,, but that's only because they were banned from most of them. It's a pretty silly chicken and egg scenario when you use the fact that they aren't allowed to be part of the sc2sea community as further justification for ... well ... not allowing them to be part of the sc2sea community.

Having stirred the pot I'll leave it there. Please remember these are MY views, not SPRs in any way and they never knew I was posting this. Admins you're doing a GREAT job
with the tourney so far, but please consider having objective rules in place so in the future if any clan includes people in their roster that anyone takes issue with we have a clear avenue of redress so everyone is relatively happy.

P.s. posted on iPhone, sorry for any grammar / spelling issues.

Quick Comments

	dippa:	+1 rep for being honest and speaking out
	Zealo:	awesome post. all rules should be as clear as possible
	wolf:	good post
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	Bash:	+1 for open honest, well mannered sicussion :)
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