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Originally Posted by Apth

Lots of Protoss players seem to be having trouble with Muta-Ling at the moment. Here's why.
When you see Mutas, you sit in your base in fear. You can't push out because when you do, he annihilates your mineral line. Solution? Cannon up your mineral line, and just go F*&#ing kill him. Be prepared to lose some pylons, and probably some probes, but it is better than the alternative - letting a Zerg player expand all over the map, have a 200/200 army when you're sitting on 115/115, and getting eaten.

Muta-Ling is fragile. If the Zerg player is on the defensive, it's terrible. Mutas and Lings both die so freakin easily. The strength of Muta-Ling is that when it's being aggressive, if the Zerg player thinks he's losing too many units, he can run away. If you're in his base, he can't run anywhere.
Go F*&%ing kill him.

A couple of secondary points - Phoenix is a terrible counter to mass Muta. Phoenixes can kill a lot of Mutas when they can micro away - if he's attacking your mineral line, and you micro away, he just sits there and kills more probes. If you're going to build Phoenixes, go harass him. Snipe Queens, pick off Overlords - force his Mutalisks to come back to his base, so he can't be in yours. Be aggressive.
Expanding next to the destructible debris was not a good idea. Either wait til you can kill the debris, or expand to your second nat at the front of your base.

To reiterate my main point - you *cannot* let a Zerg player sit back, expand and macro up. You will lose. By making Mutas, he is trying to force you to turtle. Don't let him. Be aggressive.




Cannon contain into proxy stargate voidrays? Ew.
You didn't learn anything from these games. Unless you plan to cheese for the rest of your SC2 life, don't do it. Did you win those games? Yep. Did you develop your skills, your knowledge or your proficiency with the game? Not in the slightest.

Cheesing can be fun, but don't do it if you're actually trying to improve how you play the game.

I think the main issue is purely with mass mutalisk. I have no issue with roaches/lings mixed with hydras. And thanks for pointing out that i'm not as aggressive because i'm just worried to get my army wipe out.

I replayed my reply and i noticed after his failed attempt in pushing with roaches/lings.. i never even counter knowing i have at least 6 stalkers. And i realized i've not been making lost probes and concentrate more on massing my stalkers/phx.