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Unread Mon, 4th-Jun-2012, 10:31 AM BnetId: ToRvenom.977  Race: Clan: ToR/SOT  Location: Brisbane,Australia  Total Posts Made: 447 # 1
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Replay Anazlysis (PvZ)

This is jsut a quick replay of a ZvP that i did.

Not 100% sure of what i can do to stop this..
If there is a thread i should be putting this is let me know ..

But i got cannon rushed at my nat and 3rd.
Im not sure what can be done about it.
Please have a quick look and let me know.
I can recognise some mistakes i made but im sure other people will be able to see further into it then i can.
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1260

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Unread Mon, 4th-Jun-2012, 11:40 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TheGentleman.565  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 533 # 2
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There are a couple of things I believe could have made the difference in this game... bear in mind I'm a platinum Protoss so take my advice with a grain of salt.

The pool was reasonably early which is good, 4 lings out as soon as the pool had finished would have nullified the "cheesey" play entirely (but that's not hugely economic, idk what a pro zerg would have done here).

An overlord above the patch between the natural and 3rd would have given you uninterrupted sight (granted I know a lot of zerg like to gt that overlord as far to the protoss base as possible so I can understand why it was missing.

A spinecrawler at the natural once the "cheesey" probe was nullified would have prevented the cannons from creeping forward any further.

The lings you had out might have been able to prevent the 3rd from getting cannoned up.
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Unread Mon, 4th-Jun-2012, 11:53 AM BnetId: Aequitas.737  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 404 # 3
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as gentleman said, 4 lings as soon as pool finishes would have completely stopped his weird non walled off cannon rush.

If you don't get those earlier lings out or he gets a cannon up earlier, build 1-2 spines as soon as your natural finishes, extra queens as well and put down a roach warren, make some roaches then just counter attack him because with all the money he put into his rush he will have absolutely nothing at his base
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Unread Mon, 4th-Jun-2012, 1:27 PM Race: Clan: ToR/SYF  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 436 # 4
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You'd definitely be fine against this if you made the 4 lings as soon as your pool finished. It's not really that big of an econ hit, and even when there's no immediate cannon shenanigans it's nice to have both towers, a ling parked to spot upgrades on the forge and one to scour the map for probes.

However, even once the initial cannon was up, you could still easily stop it - just drop one spine at the natural and one at the third and drone up. He can't cannon push into a spine + queen. Once you hit a decent econ you can just make some roaches and clean it up.
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