[Nemo]

I've analyzed the 3 replays tonight on stream and here is the vid: http://www.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/312421436

My conclusion is he map hacked in the game against Muse but not the 2 others against Hithenbottom. Why he hacked in a game and not in the others, I don't know. It's not the first time we see this as Ghost for example was clearly switching from MH to no MH.

Game 1 Analysis summary

• 3:40 - Deflects OL before scouting base. Evidence of Map Hack. He's then sending another overlord between the base of Muse and his without knowing where is the base.
• No drone scout in this game, drone scout in game 2 (was perhaps after game 3 in fact) and no drone scout game 3. Nothing conclusive.
• Scouting 1 ramp only with zergling on a 4 player map ?
• 0 scouting, neither XelNaga at any point of the game, never took the Xelnaga. While he was permanently scouting with glings in game 2.
• No precaution spores in game 2 while he puts 2 in game 1. So it's not a habit for him to do that.
• A-clicking enemy base with Roaches without even scouting if there are some tanks in the natural
• Attack the natural assuming there is no 3rd (no scouting) (and there was no 3rd)

And a lot of small things like that.

As I said, for me, it's Maphack and this game is enough evidence for that. It is now necessary to have other opinions on the subject. Please read and watch all the analysis done before and give your opinions.
Other replays should be interesting too. I will watch yours tomorrow Lyfe. If we have a lot of replays an no other shows MH, then might call it insane luck I guess.

[Champi]

i played empirical 2 days ago on cloud kingdom and the only unusual thing he did was make 6 lings instead of 4 and ignored my pylon block at his nat and ran them straight to my natural wall which he seemed to know wasnt fully blocked off yet

not something i can call due to hacking though, i never checked the replay passed that point so i couldnt analyse his player cam or anything and unfortunately i dont have that replay anymore, but from watching Muses game i'd say its quite likely he's hacking

Quick Comments

nGenLight:

mate they usually have an overlord that are staring right at ur wall on cloud kingdom u know

[aLtShortizz]

This guy was my student, he payed me 50 bucks and i coached him countless hour without charging futher. I originally met him on NA(Nick: Destroyer), one week ago he PM-ed me on skype(Daniel Richards) that his account was locked/suspended and asked to borrow an account to play. I loaned him one of my accounts(i had 3) and told he to do a name change which became Emprical because he was very polite about it. Reason why that account's MMR is so high is prob becos i finished really high in GM couple of seasons back, i still play a couple of games on it from time to time.

I watched the replay and have a fair few suspicions, but it would be too soon to judge him. One thing which is obvious though is that i dont think hes at the level where he can beat muse yet, hes good but not that good, maybe around mid masters on NA. In any case, i have since changed the password to this account and id like to personally apologize to Muse or anyone that might have been offended by this.

If anyone needs his skype, feel free to ask for it.

[crAzerk]

@Shortizz If you could ask him to clarify his actions here it would be great.

Anyway, added MeLo and Empirical to Suspected Hacker List

[mGMUSE]

Originally Posted by aLtShortizz

This guy was my student, he payed me 50 bucks and i coached him countless hour without charging futher. I originally met him on NA(Nick: Destroyer), one week ago he PM-ed me on skype(Daniel Richards) that his account was locked/suspended and asked to borrow an account to play. I loaned him one of my accounts(i had 3) and told he to do a name change which became Emprical because he was very polite about it. Reason why that account's MMR is so high is prob becos i finished really high in GM couple of seasons back, i still play a couple of games on it from time to time.

I watched the replay and have a fair few suspicions, but it would be too soon to judge him. One thing which is obvious though is that i dont think hes at the level where he can beat muse yet, hes good but not that good, maybe around mid masters on NA. In any case, i have since changed the password to this account and id like to personally apologize to Muse or anyone that might have been offended by this.

If anyone needs his skype, feel free to ask for it.

If he's from NA, then it's kinda weird that he asked if I've quitted flash(at the start of the game). I haven't logged onto my Flashmuse account for months and even most regular australians havent heard of Flash...

[aLtShortizz]

Originally Posted by crAzerk

@Shortizz If you could ask him to clarify his actions here it would be great.

Anyway, added MeLo and Empirical to Suspected Hacker List

I raged at him on Skype(Daniel.Richards92) and he has sinced blocked me, maybe u guys can try adding him and try baiting him to tell the truth?

@Muse, i met him on NA. Nv asked whr he is from but skype says NA.

[nirvAnA]

The replay system has a bit of an issue atm because it rmbs the bnet.id URL instead of the player name. THis is so when palyers name change their profile stays in tack. we will think of a way around that but for now those games "shortizz vs deth/iaguz/hitenbootm" are actually palyed by empirical

[Nemo]

Deth vs Empirical

Originally Posted by Lyfe

RE: empirical, played him around 7pm last night, didnt seem to be hacking from what i can tell. couple suspect positional things/scouting things but nothing i would call anyone out for.

http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=619

I watched the replay and made the analysis here : http://www.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/312807695

Summary

• No scouting but taken by surprise at every deth move who abused dropping and just punished him for not scouting on a close air position
• No Overlord scouting, no zergling scouting, no Watchtower control that could still give information even if not between the bases

My conclusion is that he hasn't hacked on that game. Hard to conlude anything about it because the absolute lack of scouting can be seen in 2 ways:

• He has not the habit of scouting in this game either without hacking, so that could lower the suspicion on the Muse game
• Not having the habit of scouting as level is suspect of having the habit of Map Hacking

Another game where he doesn't make any "precaution" spore crawler. That increase the suspicion on those in the Muse game. Also this time, he drone scouted.

Iaguz vs Empirical
Then I watched Iaguz game there : http://www.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/312809236
Same analyze for that game, no scouting and punished heavily because he never see things coming. Again, no preventive spore crawlers in this game. He hasn't hacked in this game in my opinion.

I'm still convince that he hacked in that Muse game but he has not in any other one (he lost the 4 others). So well, the fact that I can see heavy difference between the Muse game and the others tells me that it was in fact Hacking. But the fact that on 5 games there is only one that is suspicious might just be insane luck on that game. I don't believe in the latter but well, for the moment we might give him the advantage of the doubt maybe.

Quick Comments

	neon:	love your work!
	NvRossi:	i agree with your analysis!

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by pRoTimber

nth much to say from my own replay except for weird build, movements. 1st thing that came to my mind is nobody that is good play this way. A while after my game, i find him bragging on sc2sea chatbox with his record, and also zvz builds saying why nobody go for 15hatch etc and answering zvz strat questions from stallion. ngeneclipse and ngenphoenix both lost and didnt notice any sign of hack, im assuming maybe its harder to notice as a toss. but from his match history, his zvz victories over player like kottbullar and revenant as well as other zerg players are really suspicious, i would thought to myself, who the hell plays like this. and also in zvt, roach kills if theyr played in a way like iceiceice did, but not in a manner like this guy did in most of his zvt. more replays would be helpful!

I have watched this game and analysed it there : http://www.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/312812320

Summary

• Roach build, why not, nothing much suspicious about that.
• Positionning of his army in 4 or 5 situation are evidence of hacking and 1 or 2 are proofs. He goes straight to attacking Timber army without seeing anything. It's quite ridiculous at some times.

My conclusion: Obvious Map Hack. It's far over the "insane luck" "excuse" that could be given to others.

[Rage]

Originally Posted by FaDeMeatex

that is incorrect - eliminating cheaters can be done, at least from online portions of games.
Its simply no company is willing to put in the time and money to do so.

So all we can do is gather our own list and refuse to play such people

I feel like most companies do their best to eliminate 99% of the cheating that goes on. There will always be that minority, and eliminating a minority takes many times more resources and effort than eliminating the first 99% of the cheaters - so its just not worth it.

[MskiRye]

i played him once. I was doing 1-1-1. He was waiting on the spot i was about to drop. Made evo and spore without scouting my base because i was making banshee.. Lol. All my drops was denied. And i was like wtf is this guy. So freaking pro

[cruxSpoon]

LiFeWiRe - Protoss

Replay being posted under replay section.

I didn't really know if I should bother reporting this guy. He seems to really need the hacks. The principle of the matter nevertheless still stands. Here are my reasons, I watched the game from his PoV:-

8:23 - Moves units to stop reaper as soon as its close, but not before, no vision of this
9:28 - Warps in round and immediately moves to where i wanted to drop hellions, no vision again
13:48 - Warp in round and immediately moves to where my UNSPOTTED medivac about to drop
15:20 - Looks into fog of war, sends stalkers to position to take my vikings
18:00 - Looks into fog of war, no vision, but my entire army there

He didnt make 1 obs all game (from what i could tell). Constant glancing to fog with no purpose. There are probably other things i missed. These are however the most blatant to me.

P.S - Also he's a racist douchebag

EDIT: you're not your, dunno how to edit rep in Jayaiwhy's post

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akky:

racist douchebaggery u say? not in my town

[jayaiwhy]

I seem to bump into this race called Protoss on ladder alot, and they always blindly 2 base Immortal/Sentries/Blink Stalkers all-in without scouting...

It just seems a bit suspicious

Edit: it's a joke, I love Protoss all-inning me

Quick Comments

	neKo:	Not necessary please.
	cruxSpoon:	I hope that this isnt response to my post...or your illiterate
	NvRossi:	good bloody post
	inFeZa:	make more roaches why dont you?
	SLCN.Kez:	i thought was funny haha
	TAEdgE:	infeza the angry noob

[VB_Boony]

LiFeWiRe - Protoss

Thought this guy was just a dick until I saw Spoons post. Turns out I have a replay of him cheating as well.

2.04 - Looks at my base though the fog of war.
2.23 - Starts building proxy pylon and gates in my natural without ever scouting me. This is on entombed so it is a 4 player map and I could be at any location.

Once again was a racist doche. Unpaused the game while I opened the door for my house mate. Was bm to me through the whole game and continued to abuse me after I left the game.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by cruxSpoon

LiFeWiRe - Protoss

Replay being posted under replay section.

I didn't really know if I should bother reporting this guy. He seems to really need the hacks. The principle of the matter nevertheless still stands. Here are my reasons, I watched the game from his PoV:-

8:23 - Moves units to stop reaper as soon as its close, but not before, no vision of this
9:28 - Warps in round and immediately moves to where i wanted to drop hellions, no vision again
13:48 - Warp in round and immediately moves to where my UNSPOTTED medivac about to drop
15:20 - Looks into fog of war, sends stalkers to position to take my vikings
18:00 - Looks into fog of war, no vision, but my entire army there

He didnt make 1 obs all game (from what i could tell). Constant glancing to fog with no purpose. There are probably other things i missed. These are however the most blatant to me.

P.S - Also he's a racist douchebag

EDIT: you're not your, dunno how to edit rep in Jayaiwhy's post

Replay of Spoon vs LifeWire
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?find=spoon&tags=

Video of the analysis :
http://www.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/316770014

Replay analysis

• 6:03 : Watch enemy base in fog of war.
• 6:34 : again
• 7:15 : again
• 8:34 : Intercept a reaper without scooting him at the exact time he arrives.
• 9:35 : Intercept a drop without seeing anything. Absolutely ridiculous.
• 12:15: After defending drop positions, he suddenly gathers his army at his natural. And surprise, there is Spoon army coming (and of course not scouted)
• 13:55 : Another drop intercepted without any vision or hint that it was coming at that place.
• 15:30: Ambush the vikings that were sneaking to flank the army, without any vision of them. Another ridiculous move.
• 18:00 : Watch Spoon army in fog ... again ...

It's one of the most obvious map hacker we have seen here. Not even trying to pretend not to. Drop interception are the worst of it.

I will still analyze the second game but this is enough to put him on confirm hacker list.

Spoon is such a boss of crushing him anyway. Prop to you mate !

Racism
I haven't understood his message at first read, but while watching it again and searching for the meaning of "gooks", I was disgusted by this guy. Some of his comments:
"Are you a Korean Dog ?"
"You misunderstood Korean = dog"
"Only g ooks use zz"

Quick Comments

cruxSpoon:

Cheers, sadly i quit sc2 today

[inFeZa]

so much hacking going on atm... :< blizzard needs to do something about this.

[wTlzq]

Blizzard's train of thought:

1) Do not upgrade security--> ban hacker's account--> force him to buy new account--> generate revenue

[Rejected] 2) Upgrade security--> no more hackers but no revenue generated

Quick Comments

	Welshy:	I know what Im going to do if I ever make my own gaming company hahaha
	xGKingdelete:	lol
	TCPLemminks:	DAMN YOU ACTIVISION
	inFeZa:	Consequence : Killed eSports.
	faithHunter:	Milking their cash cow eh?

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by Boony

LiFeWiRe - Protoss

Thought this guy was just a dick until I saw Spoons post. Turns out I have a replay of him cheating as well.

2.04 - Looks at my base though the fog of war.
2.23 - Starts building proxy pylon and gates in my natural without ever scouting me. This is on entombed so it is a 4 player map and I could be at any location.

Once again was a racist doche. Unpaused the game while I opened the door for my house mate. Was bm to me through the whole game and continued to abuse me after I left the game.

I analyzed it with Meatex. Your game shows 99% chance of Map Hack because it's proxy 2 gates without knowing where his opponent is (3 possible places, not 2).

With the precedent game it straighten the evidence he's a hacker ... And a racist douche-bag indeed.

crAzerk, can you put him a Melo on proven MapHackers ?

[mGGDaedalus]

Ah yeah that lifewire guy, proxy 2 gate me and call me a dirty korean dog lol. If he's a map hacker I hate to think how bad he'd be without them

[SalesKing]

I actually made an account here to report Lifewire as well

First of all he seems to be a chinese person who thinks every other player is a dirty korean dog, which is quite amusing but also quite racist, he continued twith insults throughout game.

when i found about this thread, i watched the replay vs him and saw he used a completely ridiculous counter-build to mine without any scouting. Good to know because he played so bad that i wondered how I would ever lose to him.


Regards