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mOOnGLaDe · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:18 PM

really that sequia guy is a hacker? i beat his ass a few times

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crAzerk · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:21 PM

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really that sequia guy is a hacker? i beat his ass a few times

Yea cos you're too good

x5.Revenant · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mOOnGLaDe

really that sequia guy is a hacker? i beat his ass a few times

Clearly, the hack's mechanics were not as good as Moonglade's.

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RamboLicious · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RamboLicious

ok guys, I know that the guy Sequoia is confirmed hacking. But can anyone post a replay or a video of him actually hacking?
I'm not being a troll or anything, I just need hard evidence.

Evidence, guys, please.

BAD.BiGbiRd · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:40 PM

Oh man i hope this doesn't turn into Wc3 ladders on Bnet.....when your ELO/MMR gets high enough you exclusively vs hackers and EVERY. SINGLE. TOURNEY. You played hackers in prelims, hackers in brackets and then hackers in the final and despite mostly crushing them anyway because they were ******* shit you would lose occasionally and it is very, very ANGOR INDUCING >

GLaDe could vouch for this, West/East were infested by hacking scum

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i remember invuln hacks, drop hacks, MH :| So horrible

**iM tgun** · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BiGbiRd

Oh man i hope this doesn't turn into Wc3 ladders on Bnet.....when your ELO/MMR gets high enough you exclusively vs hackers and EVERY. SINGLE. TOURNEY. You played hackers in prelims, hackers in brackets and then hackers in the final and despite mostly crushing them anyway because they were ******* shit you would lose occasionally and it is very, very ANGOR INDUCING >

GLaDe could vouch for this, West/East were infested by hacking scum

SEA isn't the only place for hackers. A guy called Lone is back on the NA ladder, which is fun. :|

BAD.BiGbiRd · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tgun

SEA isn't the only place for hackers. A guy called Lone is back on the NA ladder, which is fun. :|

Funny that you mention him because i shit you not but i am one hundred percent certain that Lone = Deezer, Deezer = Focusmyhead, = Manubot (IE it's the same dude) who was the most well known hacker in the entire Wc3 scene. He was banned from countless Wc3 replay sites, leagues, ladders and all sorts and continued hacking and posting his shitty replays of him hacking all over the place. I think there are actually a few threads on Tl explaining who he is and what a piece of shit he is

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**Cordance** · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:53 PM

I dislike the idea of anyone cheating it is wrong on every level for any reason in my mind. The thing is that many people fail at life regularly, as AA says admitting it is the first step to fixing it.

I personally do not begrudge people for their failings so long as they seek to better themselves. I would rather have a community where people can admit their failings rather than one with pitchforks and angry mobs. If anyone does such in a competition or smurf then I feel its totally unacceptable and Im willing to grab my pitchfork.

As to deny then admitting if like he said he hacked for one game to see what it does and in the hopes of having an easy game them stopped. I can I would say most people would follow the denial its one game in 100s. What it has done to his reputation is significant most people would much rather lie than deal with that. Admitting it takes a lot of guts and such an action does go a long way to showing he can better himself.

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AvPoker · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RamboLicious

ok guys, I know that the guy Sequoia is confirmed hacking. But can anyone post a replay or a video of him actually hacking?
I'm not being a troll or anything, I just need hard evidence.

Really?

http://drop.sc/80753

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RamboLicious · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerface

Really?

http://drop.sc/80753

yes bro, otherwise it's gonna be just words against words.

Many thanks. Checking.. now.

MooZfY · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 2:23 PM

SO people just buy SC2 and maphack to win.. cool

RamboLicious · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 2:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerface

Really?

http://drop.sc/80753

checked. Frankly this doesn't really prove that he's a cheater, he saw ur fast lings, slow expo, and u're a random player...
Certainly he can't be sure that u're going to cheese, but he could sense something.

I think we should have a clearer proof, guys

AxSGRiM · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RamboLicious

checked. Frankly this doesn't really prove that he's a cheater, he saw ur fast lings, slow expo, and u're a random player...
Certainly he can't be sure that u're going to cheese, but he could sense something.

I think we should have a clearer proof, guys

pokerface is a random player? What do you mean? LOL? He's had really good placings in many SC2SEA tournaments and he has always been one of the top SEA players on Ladder. More proof is needed though.

x5.Revenant · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nRvGRiM

pokerface is a random player? What do you mean? LOL? He's had really good placings in many SC2SEA tournaments and he has always been one of the top SEA players on Ladder. More proof is needed though.

I think he means random race player(Pokerface used to be random instead of zerg)...

RamboLicious · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nRvGRiM

pokerface is a random player? What do you mean? LOL? He's had really good placings in many SC2SEA tournaments and he has always been one of the top SEA players on Ladder. More proof is needed though.

Nah, I mean pokerface plays random race on Ladder. I know pokerface, played with him on ladder quite some times, a very good player indeed. Anyway, seems like he changed to mainly Zerg recently

, I didn't know that though.

For the game, he did a fail scout obviously, but what if he believes that the zerg player is gonna be rushing him based on what he has in mind?
A blind 6 cannon is something unusual and suspicious, but I'd love to see some clearer proofs.

If I'm the zerg player, I did fast lings, late expo vs a protoss who does a FFE, I might want to do a roach lings all in.
If I'm the protoss player, I might think as above, and let's say I want to take this 50-50% win chance by putting some cannons blindly to defend for the all in, cause I can't scout anything else.
On the other hand, isn't it a 50-50% situation for the Zerg player to win with roach lings all in as well?

Btw, I'm a Terran player, when TvZ, at 10 minutes mark, I always go 2-3 turret unless I'm sure that my opponent is not going muta

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Also, In one of the match between me and Shortizz (SEA Community Open #35 i believe), the guy have a great gaming sense, and experience going for 2 (or 3?) spore crawler although he didn't see any evidence that I'm going for banshee.

***Disclaimer: I'm not trying to defend this cheater Sequoia, but I really need some concerete proof, to bust his ass completely, guys

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MazEi · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 5:10 PM

Wasn't the Sequoia thing is that he used blink stalker hacks or something like that?

[TA]LoSt · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mazei

Wasn't the Sequoia thing is that he used blink stalker hacks or something like that?

That's what all the top zerg players were saying. Although I'm sure that someone using a blink stalker hack would almost definitely be using other hacks as well.

RamboLicious · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 5:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mazei

Wasn't the Sequoia thing is that he used blink stalker hacks or something like that?

yes, but the only replay I can get so far is the one he (P) was playing with pokerface(Z), in a game where he went for FFE and scouted pokerface went for fast lings. He then get 6 cannons to defend pokerface's Roach Lings bust even if he didn't see any roach.

FaDeBadger · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RamboLicious

yes, but the only replay I can get so far is the one he (P) was playing with pokerface(Z), in a game where he went for FFE and scouted pokerface went for fast lings. He then get 6 cannons blindly to defend pokerface's Roach Lings bust.

While I agree on a one off basis that game could be written off as being "overly safe" the overwhelming support for his blink stalker hack would mean that on a whole this overly safe behaviour is probably hacking.

AxSGRiM · Thu, 29th-Dec-2011, 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Revenant

I think he means random race player(Pokerface used to be random instead of zerg)...

oh ok, sorry I always thought he was a Z