[noobinater]

Didn't the cannons receive their last nerf because thor timing pushes were becoming bullshit strong vP?
Maybe they'll get re-tooled for HOTS.

[Next_rim]

just went thor + ghosts in desert strike vs 3 toss, didn't work. Simple zealot + stalker rolls over it ez.

[ke_ivan]

Originally Posted by Next_rim

just went thor + ghosts in desert strike vs 3 toss, didn't work. Simple zealot + stalker rolls over it ez.

Post them replays!

[Next_rim]

Don't have them replays( Besides, there were no scv repairs.

We were talking how HT counters thor and such, but more units in protoss army counter thor too. I believe 4 chargelots beat 1 thor given equal upgrades, and cost no gas, just minerals. Thor has kind of low dps compared to stimmed bio or siege tanks. It is a fat tank, and is a muta counter. That's how blizz seems to define it, so no need to try and build a combo around it, given there are already better combos out there.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by Next_rim

just went thor + ghosts in desert strike vs 3 toss, didn't work. Simple zealot + stalker rolls over it ez.

Your composition should never be pure Ghost/Thor! They should be augmented in place of Vikings. :P

[Xeen]

Strike cannons, like all abilities that can't be microed against, were/are retarded and let Thors hardcounter their supposed 'counter' unit. I'd much rather see them replaced with something more reasonable.

[Next_rim]

Your composition should never be pure Ghost/Thor! They should be augmented in place of Vikings. :P

I had marines there too :P

Xeen,

You can't micro against yamatos. Doesn't make yamato stupid. It's in fact pure awesomeness

And since I brought up yamatos...thor doesn't need an over 9000 damage ability to single target, Terran already has one. BC yamato deals same damage instantly, and is mounted on a fatter and better unit in general. Have to differentiate and make 250mm a niche ability, then it will be used. Unfortunately, in the current metagame there is 0 use for it. TvZ is the only matchup with thors, and they are used as muta counters.

[Dox]

You're absolutely right. Having two expensive Tier 3 units with a large single-target damage ability is silly. Especially since the BC version is better!

They should just make Thors launch nukes instead.

[ToRDeathsFang]

Originally Posted by Dox

You're absolutely right. Having two expensive Tier 3 units with a large single-target damage ability is silly. Especially since the BC version is better!

They should just make Thors launch nukes instead.

With enough AoE to deal 2000 damage to the side of the map the enemy is on

[Next_rim]

nah, ghost with nukes is SC classics, can't touch that.

I want a stimmed thor

Gonna make custom map and add stim to thor.

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ke_ivan:

Bwahaha do that! I wonder what will happen!

[LennX]

Originally Posted by Xeen

Strike cannons, like all abilities that can't be microed against, were/are retarded and let Thors hardcounter their supposed 'counter' unit. I'd much rather see them replaced with something more reasonable.

Remove Thor; add in Goliath and/or Odin. It will make me a happy person.

[Xeen]

Originally Posted by Next_rim

PvZ is the only matchup with thors, and they are used as muta counters.

Goddamnit I wish, instead we get stalkers that do the damage of marines but cost 4x, and Archons which are basically thors with 1/3 the range so mutas don't even take damage before they magic box you.

I hate mutas so much oh my god

[Fourby]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

Now THAT is actually an interesting unit comp I've never seen before ... Would be intrigued to see someone try out Thor + Ghost w/ SCV repair to see how well it does vs a Protoss.

Some good EMPs would render the HT useless and also severely effect the Immortals viability vs that composition as well as zealots who could die to snipes / thor fire so easy.

This... I must see. *contemplation chin stroke*.

Lol wouldnt the HT's just end up feedbacking the thors AND the ghosts...

HT's come in for the roflstomp with a cherry on top of a lolwtfbbq

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by Fourby

Lol wouldnt the HT's just end up feedbacking the thors AND the ghosts...

HT's come in for the roflstomp with a cherry on top of a lolwtfbbq

Depends if the Terran has sick cloak / EMP micro! It could go either way, you'd have the ghosts out the front to disable the HTs of course

Don't worry Dox is boss enough to pull this off and upload reps, patience and ye shall receive.

[ke_ivan]

Actually you know what the thor needs? something to hold stuff in place. either that or something to deal with mass lings. Remember lock down? How about Irradiate? Those were already balanced abilities. Also, why can 250mm cannons stun a BC, but not an Ultralisk? lawl

[Next_rim]

Goddamnit I wish, instead we get stalkers that do the damage of marines but cost 4x, and Archons which are basically thors with 1/3 the range so mutas don't even take damage before they magic box you.

sorryz, meant TvZ. For P vs mutas we have phoenix, example of one of the hardest counters in game.

[Yonge]

Originally Posted by ke_ivan

Actually you know what the thor needs? something to hold stuff in place. either that or something to deal with mass lings. Remember lock down? How about Irradiate? Those were already balanced abilities. Also, why can 250mm cannons stun a BC, but not an Ultralisk? lawl

Even a small hammer can stun Manneroth...tsk tsk blizzard! consistency is what we need here, consistency!

[ke_ivan]

Actually, 250mm cannon could be a viable counter to BCs. Hmmm.

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by ke_ivan

Actually, 250mm cannon could be a viable counter to BCs. Hmmm.

Don't those cannons only hit ground? :|

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ke_ivan:

lulz! so true.

[ke_ivan]

Oh right! I'm such a nub.