[Snx.FigJig]

Would having a poll when deciding if a clan should be made a house clan be a possibility?

[Hwangje]

Originally Posted by Snx.FigJig

Would having a poll when deciding if a clan should be made a house clan be a possibility?

+1 ^^^^^^^

[Seffy]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

Activity on SC2SEA - This is another huge one, if you're not active before you're a house clan you're not going to be active after being a house clan. There is no point having your own forums here if they aren't being used, so get your members to participate actively.

Outside the BM, with NairX this is another issue for them. After the recruitment thread, the CW vs ToR (I think it was ToR anyway, correct me if I'm wrong please) and Oclel shit-stirring to everyone in chat at one point they've basically disappeared entirely.

Originally Posted by Snx.FigJig

Would having a poll when deciding if a clan should be made a house clan be a possibility?

Excellent point. I think we as community members have the right to vote in regards to whether we want "-insert clan name here-" to be a house clan or not.

[nirvAnA]

If there is any Poll, it would be among Moderators or other forum veterans so its not skewed by people in their clan / getting their friends to vote. No clan is "entitled" to house clan status.

[Snx.Mufasa]

Originally Posted by mGGCrayonPop

Excellent point. I think we as community members have the right to vote in regards to whether we want "-insert clan name here-" to be a house clan or not.

This wouldn't work at all, all you're going to get are the people from the clans voting for themselves. The clan with the most amount of people or just the most popular clan will have a clear advantage in this kinda system so I think its pretty stupid.

I agree with nirvana when it should only ever me the mods/people with highly regarded opinions voting in some other 'secret sub forum if you were ever going to use a poll.

[Hwangje]

Why should the moderators and veterans decide what the community want though?

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TtSYF.tRoy:

Not what they want, they decide what they get.

[Seffy]

Originally Posted by Hwangje

Why should the moderators and veterans decide what the community want though?

I reckon what should be done is.. ok, fine we let the mods and vets do the voting... However, in case of any shady moderator and/or veteran business (like the applying clan leader is really good friends with a mod/vet) it's imo a good idea if the mods/vets listen to us on what we have to say, so sort of like a community meeting. After considering what we have said, then they can do the voting.

[nirvAnA]

Originally Posted by Hwangje

Why should the moderators and veterans decide what the community want though?

You make the mistake of confusing the "community" with "you + your friends".

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mGGCrayonPop: Yea that sounds reasonable.

[syfRize]

I say a poll that includes all of the veterans of this community and the admins (or atleast 75% of them) would work.
If said clan gains house clan status against the wishes of the other members of the community, I suppose they could after all get that status taken from them and blacklisted from ever regaining it if they were to be "total dicks"

[ToRSpookToR]

all the admins are jerks though
edit: its a joke i shall say preemptively pls relax
edit2: or serious point, a lot of these clans are not even active hell of lot of the current house clans aren't even active VB, QED etc they should be active on sc2sea to be considered.

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mGGNemesis:

VB is still alive :D

[VorteX]

Nirvana...good to make a thread dedicated to House Clans..to opinions and Ideas for House Clans.

To have the community more involved you can have a list of Clans seeking to be house clans and let the community vote or nominate the clans (while you still have the choice of letting them or not). However, you can than decide, if top 1 or top2 or etc... will get the House Clan or be considered into getting house clan. That's up to you.

That way community can help you decide or which clan deserves house clans

In Worse can Scenario, and bad clans, can be voted/nominated the same way, but to be removed as a house clan and also it still give the Admins the final Say, but have the community's input into the decision as well.

[nirvAnA]

spook - we can't stop a clan from going inactive, things happen. what we can do is exercise more discretion in our selection of house clans so the chance of them going inactive is lower, which is the whole point of this. As for the current inactive clans, I may remove the icons of the inactive ones and archive it of something.

VorteX Yup, this thread serves exactly that, to get community feedback about the clans up for consideration. For e.g i learned a lot about nairx from what people have been posting here and they look unlikely candidates now.

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mGGNemesis:

Perhaps remove the clans who have disbanded e.g. sR?

[VoxMSI.Rogue]

Who is nairX. ..?

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	nirvAnA:	its a clan lol
	mGGNemesis:	Relatively new clan wanting to be more active; needs more time to prove themselves imo

[ToRSpookToR]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

spook - we can't stop a clan from going inactive, things happen. what we can do is exercise more discretion in our selection of house clans so the chance of them going inactive is lower, which is the whole point of this. As for the current inactive clans, I may remove the icons of the inactive ones and archive it of something.

yeah thats cool looking at the house clans is always great you have VB, SPR, wT and many others it brings back so many great memories. but currently some of these clans that want to be house clans are not very active at all.

[VorteX]

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

VorteX Yup, this thread serves exactly that, to get community feedback about the clans up for consideration. For e.g i learned a lot about nairx from what people have been posting here and they look unlikely candidates now.

Yeah...Also update the OP with the List of Clans up for nomination for house clans, have have like a vote button counting the of votes (also shows the number of votes so far), with a deadline to vote by. Similar to Seabets.

It makes it easier for everyone to see and dont have to go through pages manually counting the votes.

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

As for the current inactive clans, I may remove the icons of the inactive ones and archive it of something.

That's a good idea...no point in keeping inactive clans on the active list. Leaders of that clan that has been archived can put in a request to admin to have their house clan reactive. The criteria of a house clan of being re-activated is up to you.

You can also create a thread for Inactive clans, so that the community can put in their opinion on which clan is inactive and members of the community can vote (agree) that clan to be inactive. Again you have the final say. This also helps you out to decide which clan is inactive. Otherwise it be so much work for the Admin to take on the whole job to check and look for inactive clans.

[Seffy]

Originally Posted by VorteX

Yeah...Also update the OP with the List of Clans up for nomination for house clans, have have like a vote button counting the of votes (also shows the number of votes so far), with a deadline to vote by. Similar to Seabets.

It makes it easier for everyone to see and dont have to go through pages manually counting the votes.

There's a problem with that and that's basically something along the lines of "vote buying"; anyone would've been able to vote in it if this was the case.

My suggestion is that we have the thread of clans under review for HC status, and then the community can have their opinions on it. The mods/admins/veterans can then look at them, and put what the community has said under consideration, and then we leave the voting exclusively to them only.

Edit: This is the actual thread.

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nirvAnA:

This is that thread!

[VorteX]

Originally Posted by mGGCrayonPop

There's a problem with that and that's basically something along the lines of "vote buying"; anyone would've been able to vote in it if this was the case.

Well in each set of lists (to be voted) each logged in users is barred to vote only once. So it shouldn't be any problems in voting for that particular list. This "vote buying" as you have put it, can also apply to those that requires posts to vote or give their opinions. But my way only makes it easier for those people who have legitimately put in their votes.

[Seffy]

Originally Posted by VorteX

Well in each set of lists each logged in users is barred to vote only once. So it shouldn't be any problems in voting for that particular list.

That helps, a little.. but it's more with the "friends and clan mates" sort of thing if you know what I mean.

Best to leave it to the higher ups with this part of HC applications really. All we have to do is just say why they or they do not deserve to be a House Clan right in this thread.

[VorteX]

Originally Posted by mGGCrayonPop

That helps, a little.. but it's more with the "friends and clan mates" sort of thing if you know what I mean.

Best to leave it to the higher ups with this part of HC applications really. All we have to do is just say why they or they do not deserve to be a House Clan right in this thread.

Yes I know...but is also doesn't stop them from getting "friends and clan mates" just providing bias opinions to increase the chance of making their clan a house clan by posting a comment. Posting a Comments or voting, they can still do it. All i am suggesting is that it make it easier for those people who legitimately want to voice their opinion about which clan to have a house clan and to see the live results up onto the decision by the admins.

Again, the final decision is made by Nirvana and other Admins.

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Seffy:

Oh yeah I see what you mean now!

[RicocheT]

Kind of off-topic, but are you sure you want a logo of a guy fapping (OGC) on the sc2sea house clans page?

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	mGGNemesis:	lol
	PuMiCe:	hahahaha :P
	Seffy:	LOL 10 char.