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Benji · Sun, 31st-Mar-2013, 1:02 PM

If its not 1st, 8th, 9th, 16th in group A etc, there really needs to be a damn good reason for it, anything else comes down to bias which will screw over some players

teddyoojo · Sun, 31st-Mar-2013, 1:13 PM

lol, obviously what xgkingbenji said

having group selections on bias is just too silly to even think about it.

or just complete random but seed is better.

not like the 1-16 list is based on skill alone anyway so whats the point

**iM tgun** · Sun, 31st-Mar-2013, 1:17 PM

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Originally Posted by teddyoojo

lol, obviously what xgkingbenji said

having group selections on bias is just too silly to even think about it.

or just complete random but seed is better.

not like the 1-16 list is based on skill alone anyway so whats the point

Don't take this the wrong way, but I have no idea who you are ._.

Benji and (teddyoojo) are both correct. The way the brackets are going to be done need to be transparent. Well, more transparent than "The top 16 will be in groups".

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teddyoojo:

does it really matter ~ and it doesnt have to be just transparant, but also logic.

**ACL VaNzR** · Sun, 31st-Mar-2013, 2:44 PM

Guys, we formulate the groups based on season points first, seeds second. This is due to the fact points are your total collection of results across 2 events, where seed is just the average between the 2. We've done it this way since 2009. We're not just making things up as we go.

There is some discussion between admins at the moment confirming this and potential review, though everything will be fully transparent, publicly displayed.

**iM tgun** · Sun, 31st-Mar-2013, 3:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ACL VaNzR

Guys, we formulate the groups based on season points first, seeds second. This is due to the fact points are your total collection of results across 2 events, where seed is just the average between the 2. We've done it this way since 2009. We're not just making things up as we go.

There is some discussion between admins at the moment confirming this and potential review, though everything will be fully transparent, publicly displayed.

The thing is, depending on my group, due to how open bracket is seeded, am I allowed to opt out of groups and play open bracket? If not, why don't I just unregister and rock up on the day? =/

**syfChadMann** · Mon, 1st-Apr-2013, 4:04 AM

Rego's in OP say

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Originally Posted by Baldie

16th Frustration

Where as ACL site has Alpha as 16th Seed..

Frustration has more points.. so I guess there is just an error in the 'Pro-Zone' points listing?

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ACL VaNzR:

Deliberate change there in last 24 hours

**Dox** · Mon, 1st-Apr-2013, 9:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Baldie

So much theory crafting. It hardly seems worth your time ;;

What does that even mean??? People are giving you feedback...

**Baldie** · Mon, 1st-Apr-2013, 9:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dox

What does that even mean??? People are giving you feedback...

I didn't mean it personally to Chad just that he seemed to spend a bit of time having a magnitude of different situations looking at possibilities when we hadn't even given any direction on how the groups work haha. Some people enjoy that stuff I guess though so no dramas! "well if A situation happens I think this and if B, C, D or E happens etc."

I'm sure there will be plenty of feedback when the groups are released because then people actually can make sense of it all.

**Baldie** · Mon, 1st-Apr-2013, 9:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fray`ChadMann

Rego's in OP say

Where as ACL site has Alpha as 16th Seed..

Frustration has more points.. so I guess there is just an error in the 'Pro-Zone' points listing?

I had a conversation with his manager and he will not be attending ACL Brisbane anymore due to personal reasons. Thus we had to replace him with the next available seed being Alpha.

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syfChadMann:

ahhh.. np's.. <3

**Baldie** · Tue, 2nd-Apr-2013, 3:45 PM

Group Reveals for top 16 tonight 8-9PM AEDT on www.twitch.tv/aclprosc2

I will be joined by Maynarde to host the reveal with interviews from various top 16 players.

Impromptu tonight as I became available suddenly but YOLOswag let's get it done.

**Baldie** · Tue, 2nd-Apr-2013, 9:06 PM

OP updated with pools. Post on how to register and pay will be put up as soon as possible to assist those having issues!

For those who missed the live stream of the groups with Maynarde co-hosting with me and having interviews with PiG, Mafia, Iaguz and Pet watch the vod here: http://www.twitch.tv/aclprosc2/b/385570962