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Unread Wed, 6th-Feb-2013, 3:44 AM BnetId: DGimpstar 646  Race: Clan: sP  Location: Cairns, Australia  Total Posts Made: 6 # 1
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Hey guys its QEDReaper,

I am currently looking for some helpful explanations on how to transition into the mid to late game, I am finding it hard, I open with a 3 gate push and most of the time it doesn't go so well.

I notice when I am attacking they usually already have a robo up, and are building immortals and I haven't even got a robo, so I am already behind is there anyway that I can still win the game if I am behind or should I gg, and try again?

If you would like a replay to help me, just private msg and I am happy to send one out.

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Unread Wed, 6th-Feb-2013, 3:47 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: eehanProAnnn.969  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 694 # 2
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First of all, why would you go for a 3 gate push? Its not a very good build cause it puts you behind in robo tech if u fail to do any damage. I would recommend u to go for a 2/3 gate robo expand to be your staple build. You can either open up 3 stalker rush or 1 gate zealot sentry zealot into robo tech. Make 1 obs 1 immmortal then you expand. Make up to 30 probes only until ur obs scouts that he expanded too. Then proceed to mid game making collossus and chargelots

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Thanks for the advice, greatly appreciated
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Unread Wed, 6th-Feb-2013, 11:07 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtStallion.610  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Christchurch  Total Posts Made: 1,615 # 3
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As Proannn said 3 gate push isn't good, id say the 2 gate robo strat is most people bread and butter while they are learning and should teach you scouting and reacting. If you want to push i'd advice a 5 stalker or 7 stalker push off a 3 stalker opening which is
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13 gate from rallying the 12th probe (this is also your scouting probe)
14 gas
15 2nd pylon from rallying the 15th probe
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18 2nd gas
19 2nd gate

extra tip when the second gas pops make it 2 probes in each gas til you hit 30 supply or you see a 4 gate coming thru a lack of a second gas with your scouting probe. This allows you to make stalkers perfectly as you need if your macro is good.

The above opening can also be changed into a blink build fairly easily but as proannn correctly said a stable build of 2/3 gate robo is a good thing to learn and should lead you solidly into the mid game
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Unread Wed, 6th-Feb-2013, 6:05 PM BnetId: TidaL.191 (SEA) TidaL.706 (NA)  Race: Location: Aus  Total Posts Made: 378 # 4
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I would recommend the 3 Stalker Rush opening for PvP as it gives you alot of options for your midgame (from robo to blink stalkers etc.)

I created a tutorial on how to do it!

I do the build the best from 7:45 to 12:22

Hope it helps!
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