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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 6:54 PM BnetId: Barnhawk 6647  BattleTag: Barnhawk 6647  Race: Location: Hervey Bay, Queensland  Total Posts Made: 10 # 1
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[TvZ] How are you ment to win???

Ok so T v T I have a few issues with but my win rate is pretty good.
T v P I am extremely confident with but T v Z I extremely suck at. I would have a 30% win rate, if that, overall.
What are some builds and general tips to help me out. It is getting extremely frustrating...
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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 6:57 PM BnetId: Spook.389  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,570 # 2
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Make sentries, make immortals, make stalkers, make zealots. In other words, play protoss
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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 7:38 PM BnetId: Osiris,1594  Race: Location: south australia  Total Posts Made: 449 # 10
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make banelings and lings and broods and winfestors ?
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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 7:45 PM BnetId: Osiris,1594  Race: Location: south australia  Total Posts Made: 449 # 13
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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 7:49 PM BnetId: Redemption  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 284 # 14
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Do this
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=6098
but instead of the gates do 11 11 raxes like poker said. ^^ you got this
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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 8:14 PM BnetId: Gerlan.909  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 184 # 15
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This is Taeja's TvZ build I use to somewhat success:

http://drop.sc/299071

Taeja's TvZ - CC first into BIO

10 depo
14 CC (~2.19)
15 Rax (~2.45)
16 Rax (3.07) DELAYS SCV BY A LITTLE BIT + scout (16th SCV scouting)

IF NO GAS AT ZERG BASE, NO BUNKER (no immediate pressure)

21 Gas x 2 (~4.25)
25 depo (~4.57)
31 Fac + reactor on rax
34 Tech lab on rax
36 CC (~6.19)
39 Stim (~6.39)
45 Swap rax/fac -> reactor on rax again
56 Starport (~7.37)
70 Engi x 2 (~8.22) + Gas x 2 at nat
81 Rax x 3 (~9.29) (x3 reactor)

~11.00 2nd fac
~12.00 rax x 2 (x2 tech lab)



BENCHMARKS:

5 :00 19 scvs
6 :00 26 scvs
7 :00 32 scvs
8 :00 40 scvs
9 :00 46 scvs
10:00 ~53 SCVs

Stop SCVs around '12-'13 minute mark (assuming no interruptions in production)

Run the benchmarks 10+ times to make sure you are keeping up with the scv production, the no bunker part is for early early game, meaning if there is no gas at zerg's main when your initial scout gets there then there won't be a 20+ 6 min speed ling runby. (obviously get bunkers if you dont see 3rd or feeling that your opponent is doing something cheeky)

I cannot stress enough how important those scv benchmarks are, make sure you are ontop of your scv production (keeping up to 8 minute benchmark should be doable).

The engagements and positioning are going to be up to you to figure out based on experience as each match will be different and we cannot tell you where and when to put unit x or y.

Hope that helps mate.

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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 8:05 PM BnetId: ThePandarine.180  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 993 # 16
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I just go Panda style

1 Rax FE in Mass Marines

I do my best to drop in alot of areas and deny bases as much as I can. If they make Banelings or Infestors, I try my best to keep my units spread apart but not too spread apart. And since Marines cost minerals and not gas, I try to get 3-3 ASAP. Oh, and Medivacs too :P

tldr: be as Zerglike as possible....with Marines

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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 9:14 PM BnetId: pinealan.998  Race: Clan: AxS  Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 151 # 17
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huh, I have the exact opposite problem. I suck at pvt... but I am protoss
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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 9:42 PM BnetId: Chlippry. 980  Race: Location: Sunshine Coast QLD, Australia  Total Posts Made: 84 # 18
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i aim to go for a bit of a marine medvac tank combo most of the time with a 10minute attack. Similar with the one posted by Gerlan.au, by 10minutes you want atleast 51SCV's... its a build i learnt from watching FilterStarcraft. and by 10minutes, you should have stim and +1, then you will also have combat shield and +1 armor for a follow up attack if you need it.

This game i didnt go for tanks, instead opted for marines and marauders. my main issue with TvZ is banelings.... always have a hard time splitting
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another replay of a marine marauder build, similar to the one above, much more successful due to lack of banelings, seems they are my achillies heal....
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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 9:45 PM BnetId: Barnhawk 6647  BattleTag: Barnhawk 6647  Race: Location: Hervey Bay, Queensland  Total Posts Made: 10 # 19
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Thank you for all the people who replied with serious answers. Will look into all of them
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Unread Sun, 27th-Jan-2013, 10:32 PM BnetId: Spook.389  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,570 # 20
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