[mGGFender]

The QXC "Creep Delay" Bunker

Haven't seen this on here yet, and thought it was a pretty innovative way to delay creep spread by QXC. QXC uses a bunker at 4:10 as part of a gasless one rax expo into double gas reactor hellion build, to delay creep spread. The bunker in combination with an scv repairing it and the hellions that arrive soon after, combine to make it alot more difficult for zerg to spread creep without forcing extra lings.

This looks like a pretty cool idea which potentially could be explored as part of a standard strat.

Copied from Team-Dignitas.org

Introduction
With the recent enhancement to the Queen's range, Zergs in ZvT have been consistently opening with 4 or 5 queens, limiting the ability of a reactor-hellion opener to deny creep spread. This greatly-improved creep spread poses an enormous challenge for aggressive styles of play. The archetypal aggressive Terran, Kevin “QXC” Riley, has developed an interesting approach to delaying this creep spread.



The Bunker Set-Up
1: QXC starts building this bunker at ingame-4:10, after the expo-CC and double-gas.

2: The first spawn of zerglings will pressure the bunker. QXC micro-managed his marines exceptionally, buying time until he could load the bunker. Be prepared to do the same.

3: Zerg may attempt a zergling runby before finishing speed. Be willing to lift your expo-CC until hellions are ready.

4: The SCV stays there to repair. You want the SCV a few squares behind the bunker so that Queens or speedlings take some extra damage trying to snipe the SCV.

5: Place the bunker such that the marines can cover the full breadth of the choke (see example bunker below - the yellow-hp SCV is within range of the bunker).



Managing Creep
Once the Hellions join the bunker, use the hellions to manage creep spread.

2: Retreat to the bunker if the hellions are at risk.

3: Because your SCV is still by the bunker, you can repair your hellions erstwhile.

Zerg needs to break out to take a third and continue to spread creep. In most cases, this required the zerg player to make more non-drone units than he wanted.

Check out the full post here as I only copied a few snippets!
http://www.team-dignitas.org/article...-Creep-in-TvZ/

Please discuss your thoughts!

[syfCabracan]

The creepspread in the first pic is how I feel about QXC

[PiG]

8 lings > this.

It's tricky though because you need to start building them as they come across the map or the bunker gets up. Another little thing terran can do to force zergs to stop being greedy, really annoying to play against!

It also delays any super fast 3rd base!

[SLCN.NXZ]

I told iaguz specifically that he should try doing this and then ninja and I theorycrafted it to death. I think it delays the third and the creepspread well enough to be worth it because zerg has to produce more lings which simulates prepatch hellions pretty well imo. If zerg is gonna make 8 lings at the beginning of the game you could be in trouble I guess but theres probably some way you could get around it i think. Most zergs won't though so I like the idea!

[ToRPeek]

A key point that the artilce didn't mention, is that you really can't do this vs gas openings. Blind six roach pressure, will destroy this, as well as teh 20speed ling timing/pressure that zerg's have been doing. Any kind of push or pressure involving gas turns this against you, because you need teh bunker at home. Thus you can only do it vs gasless. And like pig said, 8 lings will counter this, but it can be rough for zergs to reactively make enough lings.

This is nice once in a while, but in no way can be come something you do everygame.

[ToRSpookToR]

peek was doing this before it was cool

Quick Comments

ToRPeek:

:D

[syfChadMann]

ahhh cool idea - make Antiga even better for Terran.. ? :P

[Antel0pe]

Originally Posted by Cabracan

The creepspread in the first pic is how I feel about QXC

The creep spread looks like a dick O.O?

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by Antelope

The creep spread looks like a dick O.O?

Firstly, go get your penis checked out with a doctor - not ment to look like that

and the picture makes it look like a love heart.
he loves qxc - no homo?

Quick Comments

ToRPeek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis perhaps?

[syfCabracan]

Originally Posted by Antelope

The creep spread looks like a dick O.O?

I'm with Chadmann on this one, penis' aren't meant to look like that. I personally think it looks like a heart. QXC was my favourite terran for a really long time.

[Zepph]

I believe we saw an attempt at this in the melbourne ACL regionals (was it you, peek?). Had no idea what was going on. Nice to know what the background behind this QXC bunker is ^^ Interesting. I hope we see some games that try to utilise it more soon.

Quick Comments

	ToRPeek:	I don't know who it was but it wasn't me haha
	Maynarde:	It was deth v Techtron game 2 on Antiga :)

[ToRSpookToR]

i have been told deth did it ages ago and peek did it before this thread its not exactly original zzzz but good none the less yea peek is right gas builds crush this

[SmirkToT]

4queens > this

Quick Comments

	MooZfY:	^
	ToRPeek:	4 queens > all that is terran :D

[Shieldz]

ahh nice idea good

[Hansome]

I knew terran would come up with something creative to stop the creep spread. In the last tournament I saw, a terran was super late on taking his fourth base because the creep was just out of control. I love that creep is actually something worth using now, before it was just for scouting purposes, but now it seems like a great way to deny expansions as well as be prepared for any incoming attack.

But as some other people said, what if they just make 8 lings? I guess if nothing else you forced lings.