[Frogmite]

Sharn Kemp SEA Premier League
Week 6
Game1: ESV Cloud Kingdom
Game2: MLG Metalopolis
Game3: GSL Bel'shir beach
Game4: GSL Antiga Shipyard
Ace match: MLG The Shattered Temple

+ [map pool loser picks no veto] +

MLG Taldarim Altar, MLG Metalopolis, MLG Shakuras Plateau, GSL Antiga Shipyard, GSL Daybreak, MLG The Shattered Temple, GSL Dual Sight, GSL Bel'shir beach (winter version), ESV Cloud Kingdom

We are adding ESV Cloud Kingdom to the map pool of Sharn Kemp Premier League. Once i find a way to upload gsl metropolis on SEA we will add this one too.

Tuesday 21st February 2012 9PM AEDT

aLt 4 - 2 Herocraft
	aLtnirvAnA 0	< ESV Cloud Kingdom >	2 Shuffle
	SQLNinja 2	< MLG Metalopolis >	0 Timber
	NvYoonYJ 2	< GSL Bel'shir beach >	0 Cobo
	SQL.HuT 1	< GSL Antiga Shipyard >	2 Risen
	TtPiG 2	< MLG The Shattered Temple >	0 tgun

Stream : www.twitch.tv/systemtv
The last season runner-up vs a team of heroes from sc2 sea region. A true fanboy match up were all waiting to see. Since the enigmatic leader of herocraft Moonglade has been beasting up the TeamLiquid ELO ladder as of late if he plays he will be a big hurdle for ALT to face

Mineski 2 - 4 TA
	VTAzz 2	< ESV Cloud Kingdom >	0 SQLyang
	Pobbes 1	< MLG Metalopolis >	2 TAVoices
	MskiJaBiTo 2	< GSL Bel'shir beach >	1 TAEdgE
	MskiWaning 0	< GSL Antiga Shipyard >	2 SQLSenSei
	MskiEnDerr 0	< MLG The Shattered Temple >	2 NvRossi

Casted by ZEPHNARDE Stream : www.twitch.tv/infeza
TA are trying to redeem themselves with the rounds remaining this season. And by taking out one of the top two teams of the season so far Mineski would greatly help there cause. Fighting for honor and pride will be what they hope carry's them over the line in the process giving Mineski a scare and reminding them no team is safe.

ToT 5 - 1 MiTH
	HotlipsToT 2	< ESV Cloud Kingdom >	1 MiTHjump
	FoJJToT 2	< MLG Metalopolis >	0 indy
	jerryToT 2	< GSL Bel'shir beach >	0 Maya
	cjcToT 0	< GSL Antiga Shipyard >	2 GviewHadez
	FlashToT 2	< MLG The Shattered Temple >	0 RedArchon

No stream allocated yet :
Tot and MiTH are both in the middle of the pack as the season progress, constantly eyeing each other off as the rounds went by. Now they get there chance to determine who will remain there trapped in the pack and who will give themselves a little distance. Will newcomers ToT step it up agsnint the might of MiTH. Tune in to find out.

EvE 2 - 4 SPR
	EveWestley 1	< ESV Cloud Kingdom >	2 SungInSPR
	EveStrafe 2	< MLG Metalopolis >	0 MasterSPR
	EveYekke 2	< GSL Bel'shir beach >	0 iStSPR
	EveMaltiso 0	< GSL Antiga Shipyard >	2 BalloonSPR
	EveVendetta 1	< MLG The Shattered Temple >	2 RyoomakSPR

Casted by STITCH Stream: www.twitch.tv/stitchhk
Another important match at this 2/3 point of the season. As both these teams are borderline contenders but to make that final step one of these teams must fall.But which will it be the Korean fed SPR or the forever vigilant and competitive EVE surely a exciting series to follow.

inFi 0 - 4 xGKing
	walkover	< ESV Cloud Kingdom >
	walkover	< MLG Metalopolis >
	walkover	< GSL Bel'shir beach >
	walkover	< GSL Antiga Shipyard >
	walkover	< MLG The Shattered Temple >

Rank	Team	Games	Win	Draw	Loss	Record	Points
	xGKing	6	4	2	0	21/9	14
	ToT	6	3	1	2	21/13	10
	Mski	6	3	1	2	19/17	10
4	aLt	5	2	2	1	16/14	8
5	SPR	6	2	2	2	16/20	8
6	Eve	6	2	1	3	17/19	7
7	inFi	5	1	2	2	14/16	5
8	TA	6	1	2	3	12/24	5
9	Herocraft	3	1	1	1	10/8	4
10	MITH	5	0	2	3	11/19	2

Note: Week 3 game between and (TargA vs GviewHadez) is still unplayed. Week 4 games between and (glade vs ice and tgun vs peace) are postponed to a later date.

Any caster interested to cast one of these games, please let me know in the thread. Benji will get priority to choose his game as he's official caster for Sharn Kemp Premier League.

P.S: I would like to remind everybody that no observers are allowed in the game unless both teams agree.

[iMSystem]

Want me to cover aLt vs Herocraft ?

[Xenomorph]

Hang on...since when does SPR have 3 losses? we should have 1 win 2 draw 2 loss??

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adyb:

agree

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by Xenomorph

Hang on...since when does SPR have 3 losses? we should have 1 win 2 draw 2 loss??

Yes true, it could explain why i gave you 5 points lol.

[nGenLight]

As the players(myself, Jaz etc) are quite friendly with the Infi guys, there wouldn't be a shadow of a doubt that we would have accepted a rescheduling. However Benji has no affiliation with Infi and has no obligation to agree with that favour.

I personally do sympathize with Infi in there problem with fielding a roster worth of player as Roz's post has outlined. However, Benji taking a hard stance on the rule shouldn not be subject to criticism.

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Frogmite:

[nGenLight]

I believe Benji has considered that before his decision.

Note that the delaying of games was already getting on peoples nervous (not trying to place blame, just facts).

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by System

Want me to cover aLt vs Herocraft ?

OK i put you for aLt vs Herocraft. Game starts at 9PM AEDT unless request from Herocraft to move the games.
Maynarde will cast TA vs Mineski

[jump]

to ToT Manager

again and again for MiTH

it's possible to play at 7pm SGT

[iM MaFia]

yeah I agree with Light, tbh I didn't even know what was going on till now, I actually just got home and was expecting to play but was surprised that they got walkovered.

but given the situation why is walkover 4-0 instead of 2-0 for each player + 6-0?

[aLtShortizz]

I dont see why a reschedule is not possible since the xGKing guys play almost every night anyways. Some of them didnt even know they are not playing today and getting the walk over iirc. So yeah, dont be bitch benji. Not only is it unfair to the inFi guys, its unfair to ppl like me who are looking forward to the games. Also, do u want this to set a precedent where teams will reject reschedules hoping to get a walk over?

I suspect the reject of a schedule is more due to the epic post targa made somewhere.

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	wolf:
	JaFF:

[wolf]

In my opinion it goes against the tight knit community feel and 'spirit of the tournament' we got going on here. As Shortizz stated you've now set a precedent that taking walkovers are fine. Instead of being a boss alpha male and rescheduling, it seems to me you've taken the easy way out.

[iM MaFia]

Originally Posted by wolf

In my opinion it goes against the tight knit community feel and 'spirit of the tournament' we got going on here. As Shortizz stated you've now set a precedent that taking walkovers are fine. Instead of being a boss alpha male and rescheduling, it seems to me you've taken the easy way out.

Tbh id rather play my match but you have to see that its not exactly fair if some teams are going to delay games because ppl can't show up once a week, teams have subs that fill in slots for players that cant show up, I mean its pretty reasonable if both teams agree to have a match or 2 postponed because its not like were not trying here, that's what we've been doing. But in this case im not exactly sure what happened but you can't say we've taken the easy way out based on what you know.

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nirvAnA:

[wolf]

Originally Posted by xGKingMafia

Tbh id rather play my match but you have to see that its not exactly fair if some teams are going to delay games because ppl can't show up once a week, teams have subs that fill in slots for players that cant show up, I mean its pretty reasonable if both teams agree to have a match or 2 postponed because its not like were not trying here, that's what we've been doing. But in this case im not exactly sure what happened but you can't say we've taken the easy way out based on what you know.

Oh, I'm not insinuating that it was the players decision to not play, I was almost certain before-the-fact that you guys would have liked to verse Infi. Based on previous weeks, accommodation have been made by every other team (not only pertaining to Infi) to get the matches played rather than taking the walkover. Also, I said that's just the way it feels to me, not that it was fact. I do admit that I am disappointed in the decision to be honest.

[DeNile]

Beautiful looking post froggy

[Flamga]

If there are any games on friday night would love to cast it if that is ok

[NvJazBas]

Originally Posted by xGKingJazBas

What i think is fark up is that Benji chose to take the walk over in this todays match against inFi

If you weren't criticising benji, I think wording of this should've been more careful.

The 3 weeks thing is - there are some of inFi's game thats been postponed and still haven't played till today (it may have been played now idk) or for a long time and Benji didn't want that to happen.

edit: I don't know why the quote has my name on it but its from shortizz.

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nirvAnA:

[iM MaFia]

I can understand why benji would reject because he probably feels its not fair that we have 5 players lined up each week and if ppl can't play on that certain day then we'd replace them but we've never had to reschedule any games unless it was very very last min emergencies (lights case vs spr last week) so he probably thinks that if our team can do it, most the other teams should.

Personally id really like to play my match but i do find it abit silly that inFi cant roster even a few players but want all 5 matches postponed

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wolf:

i like manner discussions

[wolf]

Originally Posted by xGKingMafia

I can understand why benji would reject because he probably feels its not fair that we have 5 players lined up each week and if ppl can't play on that certain day then we'd replace them but we've never had to reschedule any games unless it was very very last min emergencies (lights case vs spr last week) so he probably thinks that if our team can do it, most the other teams should.

Personally id really like to play my match but i do find it abit silly that inFi cant roster even a few players but want all 5 matches postponed

I see where you're coming from, but I don't like the precedent that this now sets on top tier tournament play and I hope it doesn't keep up from seeing great SEA games because of this decision.

[pRoTimber]

jazbas and mafia didnt even know and doesnt mind playing, so why not? it is not wrong to choose to walkover and nobody's gonna force u either, just that ppls impression for benji could change

[Roz]

We've (inFi) said many times before the start of the season that we didn't want to participate in SEACL because of the following reasons:

1. Redarchon and JazBas are playing for other teams already
2. The remaining members on the clan have other commitments such as school, army, and work. TargA will be in Europe and won’t have internet for a while even when he goes back to Aus. Meaning we will not be able to play all the time on the given time and some will even be late most of the time.
3. With all the above, it will be a poor representation of our clan as there is a lack of depth and people to choose from.

The admins at the time guaranteed us that they will be working with other teams to reschedule our games so that we will be able to play properly. Since the admins really tried to help us out with this and wanted us to participate, we decided to join as it would be nice to show some support for sc2sea as well. On top of that, it would also be fun for us to be playing in this.

However, this week we are playing against xGKing and we're told that Benji refused to have any reschedules so we will just have to play at the scheduled time or forfeit. I understand that that's how most tournaments are ran but we really only played because of what we were guaranteed in the beginning.

I’m not trying to cry or anything here, just want to clarify that we don’t delay our games on purpose. We had previous games postponed mainly because the other teams didn’t show or wasn’t able to play and not because we didn’t show up. There are days where we can play and we will know by the beginning of every week but we can’t guarantee that the scheduled time is 1 of those days. That’s why we only chose to play after reaching an agreement with the admins to start but I don't know why that's not the case anymore. We were also unable to submit our lineup because if we don’t even know whether or not there will be a reschedule and which day it would be if there was 1, we don’t know who can play and who can’t….

Quick Comments

	syfChadMann:	I hope Benji can find the time to play the game -_-
	EveParachute:
	x5.Revenant:
	nGenLight:	Clevery disguised shot at INDY, LOL