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Celldweller · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 4:13 PM

E-sports is getting bigger every year, do you think any aussie teams will have houses and international teams like Millenium, TeamLiquid and EG?

Bash · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 4:20 PM

From the guy-love going on lately, i wouldnt be shocked if a bunch of TA people moved in together and made a nerd-brothel.

But in all seriousness, i doubt it'll happen in aus for a while, but i'd love to be proven wrong.

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Zealo:

you said everything i thought, now i don't have to reply

ToRVenom · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 4:23 PM

To be honest. i dont think they will. I think Australia wont ever really take E-sports like Others. Australia is more a active sport country. Im not saying we wont have professional teams that will eventually work like EG or TL i mean i think it will just take alot longer for Australia to pick up on Esports as we more focus on active sports.
It would be great if Australia did have these kinds of things it would defiantly become a motivator for players to training and practice harder to attempt to make it into one of these houses. Well i know i would.

Venom.

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Bash:

Definitely* ;)

**kellyMILKIES** · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 6:47 PM

I hope they do. There are a lot of really good sc2 players in Australia, rent in aus is pretty cheap as long as you dont stay too close to the city.

Also, AU used to have really good dota and CS teams. The HoN team was decent for a while.
Maybe there will be a big esports organisation in australia again like LGD or immunity, and have a house with maybe a dota2 team + 4 or 5 other sc2 players.

Thing is, living in a house together with people might be hard on players even if they were given a house. Mostly culture difference, I guess most teams dont have houses that are really efficient or stable be it in EU or US ^^

SGak · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kellyMILKIES

Also, AU used to have really good dota teams

HEY!!! We still have Absolute Gaming ^^ (previously known as Natural 9)

**kellyMILKIES** · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SGak

HEY!!! We still have Absolute Gaming ^^ (previously known as Natural 9)

not enough actual offline tournament to tell who is good now. a lot of european teams are pretty boss at the moment.

SGak · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kellyMILKIES

not enough actual offline tournament to tell who is good now. a lot of european teams are pretty boss at the moment.

At least Australia has a good team :P

**Dox** · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 6:51 PM

If an Australian team were to get a team house happening, Australia isn't the place they'd wanna do it. It'd be overseas.

Having said that, I don't think team houses are really necessary or important. There are a lot of avenues for Australia to focus on with regards to eSports growth and team houses would be nothing more than a luxury. We're a long way from anything like that.

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Frogmite:

listen to the boss

Rockstar · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 7:06 PM

22,815,000 people in Australia...
312,922,452 people in America...

Even with the massive difference in population, there's still very very few houses in America... It would be great to have e-sports take off in Australia, however it's highly unlikely... There's just not enough interest due to population. Australian culture unfortunately tends to shun gaming for active sports.

TargA · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 11:17 PM

to be honest I doubt any australian teams have enough money to afford a teamhouse for more than a week, also having it in Australia is in my opinion really bad. Why??

1. Small player database ( not enough good players to practice with)
2. timezones
3. latency ( if you want to play on other servers you will lagg)
4.The scene is small potatoes ( : ))))))))))))))) ) compared to NA EU and KR.
winning a SEA tournament gives you no exposure at all.

Champi · Sat, 28th-Jan-2012, 11:41 PM

TA retreat is coming up, we shall experience the TA version of a teamhouse for 5 days of nothing but binge drinking, hardcore ladder, and funny jokes full of love and backhanded humour that shall get us hated all over sea via the misunderstanding of our intentions through the mystique of b.net text!

smart person words aside, we will be very drunk. and it shall be epic

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bombertaylor · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 2:17 PM

Australian culture is not suitable for e-sport. Every time I call sc is a sport my colleauge laugh at me.

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	Eldrid:	Lol. This happens to me :p
	ToRXypha:	I get the, its just a game, i remind them so was cricket, soccer and footy. what makes it a 'Sport' is when there are revenues to be made

Celldweller · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 3:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bombertaylor

Australian culture is not suitable for e-sport. Every time I call sc is a sport my colleauge laugh at me.

a lot of americans dont even know what starcraft 2 is as well though

**Apth** · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 3:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bombertaylor

Australian culture is not suitable for e-sport. Every time I call sc is a sport my colleauge laugh at me.

This is the same the world over dude. Things will change.

eSports is becoming more mainstream amongst nerds
Nerd culture/gaming is becoming more mainstream amongst boring folk
An increasing number of businesses are seeing the potential revenue stream from sponsoring teams/events

Nothing about Australian culture specifically inhibits the growth of eSports.

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Rockstar · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 5:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Apth

This is the same the world over dude. Things will change.

eSports is becoming more mainstream amongst nerds
Nerd culture/gaming is becoming more mainstream amongst boring folk
An increasing number of businesses are seeing the potential revenue stream from sponsoring teams/events

Nothing about Australian culture specifically inhibits the growth of eSports.

There's a few main reasons why Australia in particular will have massive issues forming a competitive e-sports scene...

First of all there is population/size. The tiny population and large size of Aus means A) there's less people to be interested, B) There's less sponsors to be interested and C) The people we do have are distributed around a massive Island. Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Tasmania, Brisbane etc. As well as those who live in rural areas. This division of people makes it even harder to get them all together for events etc.

Second of all there's the deeply engrained Australian culture. This is somewhat changing, Aussies becoming more accepting etc... However the vast majority of Australians are avid sports followers, and most of the time trying to convince them that E-sports is legitimate is a lesson in futility.

Thirdly there is the distribution of gamers... Not only does SC2 specifically need to have a high player/fanbase to succeed and gain support/sponsors, they lose a lot of potential players to other games... COD, CS, BF3, Halo etc. I mean you could even bring console gamers into the fray and that reduces the pool size even further.

All this being said however doesn't make it a complete waste of time trying... It just means the chips are stacked against us. S. Korea is a perfect example. They have a somewhat small population and e-sports have flourished... This means it's far from impossible for e-sports to work in Australia. That being said they didn't have the Australian Culture to deal with, They had over double the Australian population to begin with and on top of that they are geographically central. There's a lot of people crammed into one tiny space.

just my 2c.

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SLCN.Kez:

deL · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 4:14 PM

I don't think we can move forward as a unit until we all start calling it SEAsports.

**Apth** · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TAdeL

I don't think we can move forward as a unit until we all start calling it SEAsports.

I'll come on board with SEAsports if you agree to SEAshirt.

MutantGene · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 5:32 PM

I don't care where you are born or what your upbringing, people will play sports. Whether it's physical or eSports, (and eSports IS physical as well as mental) the thrill of following your superstar or playing the game is the same. The thrill.
I truly believe eSports will be big in Australia very soon and big businesses will sponsor the teams and players.

"Adversity causes some men to break; others to break records."
William Arthur Ward

Negative thinking takes us nowhere. Be positive because you play SC2 and embrace what you like.

breadfan · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 5:54 PM

S. Korea has a somewhat small population, you say? Seoul is the second biggest city in the world.

I do think your other points are pretty valid though, Rockstar

Rockstar · Sun, 29th-Jan-2012, 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by breadfan

S. Korea has a somewhat small population, you say? Seoul is the second biggest city in the world.

I do think your other points are pretty valid though, Rockstar

lol well it's slightly over double Australia's.. I don't know much about other countries populations other than the big ones, I just assumed... That being said they're 25th highest pop overall so they're not ridiculously large