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Unread Wed, 11th-Jan-2012, 5:00 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TCPfrogmite.365  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 908 # 1
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SEACL Tier 1 [T1] Statistics

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Sharn Kemp SEA Premier League
STATISTICS

Writing a small thread in case you guys love statistics:

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Teams/players stats

Number of teams: 10
Number of players: 99
Average number of players per team: 9.9
Largest team: 13 players (aLt, ToT, Eve)
Smallest team: 7 players (MiTH, Herocraft, xGKing)
Number of games to be played:225 matchs, so between 450 and 675 games!
Estimated hours of casting: 3hours*2 games a week* 9 weeks = 54 hours of Benji

Countries represented

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Races played

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Other stats

Highest ranked player of the division: RyooMakSPR
Lowest ranked player of the division: MskiDane ()
Player with the biggest axe:xGKingIaguz
Player with the longest name of the division: xGKingPokerface
Flag bearers: TargA, Strafe,Roz
Most handsome player of the division: mOOnGlade
Biggest points at scrabble with a player name:GviewHaDeZ (36 points)
TEAM ELO RATING/WIN RATE

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Statistics after week 7

ELO ranking by players - TOP 10
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ELO/Winrate by country
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ELO/Winrate by race
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ELO/Winrate by teams
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ELO Progression by team
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ELO Progression by races
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Winrate Progression by races
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Winrate Progression by team
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Winrate Progression by country
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ELO Progression by country
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THIS THREAD WILL BE UPDATED WEEKLY


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soooooo awesome!!! Most handsome = Jabito yo!
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Stats!
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♥ stats
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AH HA! NOW WE KNOW WHICH RACE IS OP!
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i love these things. I think it will be great to check stats third or 4th week in
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So much hard work!!! Deserves Rep!
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Statistics. Love 'em~
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T'es fou de faire ces trucs haha. C'est énorme. :)
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nice stats
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Awesome, thanks for taking the time to do an interesting thread like this.
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Unread Wed, 11th-Jan-2012, 5:32 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 3
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Player that you have to explain me why he play on SEA: JuanMarco
HAHAHA yea i was gonna ask who is the mexico player and what team is he from?
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Unread Wed, 11th-Jan-2012, 5:33 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TCPfrogmite.365  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 908 # 4
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HAHAHA yea i was gonna ask who is the mexico player and what team is he from?
In fact JaFF just PM me, it was a mistake from him when he gave me the roster. The guy is from Philippines. I'll update later.
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Unread Wed, 11th-Jan-2012, 5:35 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: iMMaFia.376  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 539 # 5
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he doesn't go by major or princess or something i hope!
edit: nvm.. idk how you can get phillipines and mexico mixed up though
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Jabito more handsome than Glade? What're you smoking nirvAnA :P
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Unread Wed, 11th-Jan-2012, 5:35 PM BnetId: sRGRiM.784  BattleTag: nRvGRiM#6650  Race: Clan: N/A  Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 860 # 7
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lol! xSixWinDy in the SEACL
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Unread Wed, 11th-Jan-2012, 5:35 PM BnetId: Daedalus.523  BattleTag: Joshboy#1763  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 468 # 8
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Awesome job frogmite! Maybe this can be the start of SC2SEA's version of TLPD
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JuanMarco?
Juan (first name) is windy/major/terran/cuteangel....
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JuanMarco?
Juan (first name) is windy/major/terran/cuteangel....
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Pretty sure Juan is the first name of 95% of Mexico :P

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i like percentages
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Man those graphs look pretty sweet ^^
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I actually already got in touch with a coder whos interested to do up our own version of TLPD for under $200 lets see how that goes
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Unread Wed, 11th-Jan-2012, 6:24 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TCPfrogmite.365  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 908 # 13
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I did some updates to the original post.

I will continue to update every week after the games.

Most of stats/graphs only make sense after one game is played so there will be lots of stuff next week!
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Unread Thu, 19th-Jan-2012, 11:56 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TCPfrogmite.365  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 908 # 14
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There are two games missing for this week but i still release the statististics for week 1:

Statistics week 1

ELO/Winrate by country
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ELO/Winrate by race
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ELO/Winrate by teams
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ELO ranking by players
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ELO Progression by team
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That is freaking sexy. Nice work!
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awesome! does every league get this?
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Unread Thu, 19th-Jan-2012, 12:04 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 15
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Cool graphs, can't wait for a few more weeks to pass and we can see some better stats with the increased amount of data
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Unread Thu, 19th-Jan-2012, 12:10 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: ToRErasmus.733  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,454 # 16
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What formula are you calculating ELOs with. AFAIK the chess system is standard, and it uses K values of 30 for initial games, and still uses 15 rather than 10 for games where the player has an MMR under 2400 (to stop it blowing out at the top end).

Based on nirvana's new ELO being 2010 after 2 wins against a roughly even opponent, you used a K value of 5 and then didn't do it per game, specifically, or somtehing?

Seems like a really weird and non-standard ELO calculation... O_o
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Unread Thu, 19th-Jan-2012, 12:15 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TCPfrogmite.365  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 908 # 17
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What formula are you calculating ELOs with. AFAIK the chess system is standard, and it uses K values of 30 for initial games, and still uses 15 rather than 10 for games where the player has an MMR under 2400 (to stop it blowing out at the top end).

Based on nirvana's new ELO being 2010 after 2 wins against a roughly even opponent, you used a K value of 5 and then didn't do it per game, specifically, or somtehing?

Seems like a really weird and non-standard ELO calculation... O_o
Yeah it's not standard calculation as i couldn't find the formula of ELO calculation.

So i did mine:

=IF(D3>E3,ROUNDDOWN(H3+(VLOOKUP(H3-I3,DATA!P:Q,2))*(((D3-E3)/4)),0),ROUNDDOWN(I3-(VLOOKUP(H3-I3,DATA!P:Q,2))*(1/(2+D3)),0))

D3=ELO of player
E3=ELO of opponent
H3=Number of game won (0,1 or 2)
I3=Number of game won by opponent (0,1 or 2)


I then did a table with the coefficient changing according to the difference of ELO between the players:
+ [show the table] +

ELO DIFF Points given
-200 35
-199 35
-198 35
-197 35
-196 35
-195 35
-194 35
-193 35
-192 35
-191 35
-190 35
-189 35
-188 35
-187 35
-186 35
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-184 35
-183 35
-182 35
-181 35
-180 35
-179 35
-178 35
-177 35
-176 35
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-173 35
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So yeah it's not really ELO rating but i didn't know how to call it. Maybe FROG rating? Or FRUST rating?

If someone have the formula i am interested
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Unread Thu, 19th-Jan-2012, 12:53 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: ToRErasmus.733  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,454 # 18
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Yeah it's not standard calculation as i couldn't find the formula of ELO calculation.

So i did mine:

=IF(D3>E3,ROUNDDOWN(H3+(VLOOKUP(H3-I3,DATA!P:Q,2))*(((D3-E3)/4)),0),ROUNDDOWN(I3-(VLOOKUP(H3-I3,DATA!P:Q,2))*(1/(2+D3)),0))

D3=ELO of player
E3=ELO of opponent
H3=Number of game won (0,1 or 2)
I3=Number of game won by opponent (0,1 or 2)


I then did a table with the coefficient changing according to the difference of ELO between the players:
+ [show the table] +

ELO DIFF Points given
-200 35
-199 35
-198 35
-197 35
-196 35
-195 35
-194 35
-193 35
-192 35
-191 35
-190 35
-189 35
-188 35
-187 35
-186 35
-185 35
-184 35
-183 35
-182 35
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So yeah it's not really ELO rating but i didn't know how to call it. Maybe FROG rating? Or FRUST rating?

If someone have the formula i am interested
Formula for ELO is:

R' = R + K(1 - (1 / (1 + 10^(Ro - R))))

where R is the previous rating, and Ro is what im using for the opponents rating.

K is a constant. The Internation chess federation uses K = 30 (when a player has < 30 games played). Then it uses K = 15 (For rating < 2400) or K = 10.

So for example, Nirvana vs. Light would be:

After game 1 (for nirvana) 2000 + 30 (1 - 1(1 + 10^(2000-2000))) = 2030.
And for Light would be 1970.

So After game 2 (for nirvana) 2030 + 30(1 - 1(1+10^(1970 - 2030))) = 2042.435
And for Light (1970 + 30 (1 - 1(1 + 10 ^ (2030 - 1970))) = 1957.565

I was actually intrigued by Nirvana's comment at some point in the past where he talked about an sc2sea thing like a TLPD. I'd really love to find some time now to write a system where we can upload tournament replays and parse them to find the winner/loser and update an ELO ranking table of tournament games...
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I was actually intrigued by Nirvana's comment at some point in the past where he talked about an sc2sea thing like a TLPD. I'd really love to find some time now to write a system where we can upload tournament replays and parse them to find the winner/loser and update an ELO ranking table of tournament games...
That reminds me, I never got around to releasing my parser!

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