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**iMSystem** · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 1:15 PM

Is it just me, or is the NA ladder much easier than the SEA one.
Granted I have only hit platinum in both ladders, but today I made a NA account to play zerg for the luls, and got placed in plat after the 5 matches.

Whereas in SEA im in plat by playing terran my main race and im finding it much harder than it is on NA when im playing a race i never play.

Anyone else notice this ?

Max · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 1:31 PM

A simple yet unreliable theory is;

1. More people = More noobs
2. More peope = More pros

Thus being said, lower levels you may find easier, higher levels you may find harder.

NDG.Stitch · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 1:35 PM

NA's silver-low diamond is easy, but when u get higher, its much harder than SEA.

Tom · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 1:46 PM

My personal experience is that there was more time wading through newbies simply because the player base is so much larger, and hence the top players get much higher points/MMR (in the same way as increasing the base of the pyramid increases its height).

Once you start playing top 200 players, they are very strong (anyone in NA top 200 feels to me on par with top 20 SEA)

**ToRSpartaz** · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:00 PM

I agree with Stitch, the lower leagues for SEA are a lot higher quality than NA, this is due to more people like I am quite a good example myself.

SEA = Silver
NA = Diamond

Benji · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartaz

I agree with Stitch, the lower leagues for SEA are a lot higher quality than NA, this is due to more people like I am quite a good example myself.

SEA = Silver
NA = Diamond

Its not that drastic, you just havent played enough on one of the servers.

**ToRSpartaz** · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Benji

Its not that drastic, you just havent played enough on one of the servers.

Nah its not really, but i have played around 40ish on NA and ive won roughly 28 out of 40ish games, I mainly play in SEA, but as I said its just an example of the difference between the Servers xD

Benji · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartaz

Nah its not really, but i have played around 40ish on NA and ive won roughly 28 out of 40ish games, I mainly play in SEA, but as I said its just an example of the difference between the Servers xD

Under 100 games = useless data.

ke_ivan · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:01 PM

agree. lower lvls in sea are much, much harder.

UncleTom · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:03 PM

This is because you started playing on your SEA account first when you were little bronze players, so the MMR is a lot worse because you have way more loses and lower ranked games etc, etc, etc.....Then when you play on N/A on your brand new account you can beat the noobs and get goodz MMR ez ez.

**rezyn8** · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:24 PM

Hmm maybe thats why I am still in Bronze (sif). Might have to try NA sometime but I want to keep the SEA community going.

Benji · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:29 PM

Pro Tip: Doesnt matter if youre Bronze on SEA and Diamond on NA, your skill at the game is exactly the same, you don't suddenly play better on NA.

**rezyn8** · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:40 PM

I agree Benji - but it would be nice to get out of Bronze

UncleTom · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:45 PM

What if the symbol of your league gives you the power to play really well, when you see that sparkling diamond you feel you can win forever forever, but when you log on to you lower server account you see the dark sombre bronze, it makes you sick it makes you hate yourself, "bronze loser you just a fat loser" it effects your mental state and you play worse because of it. So when Benji says bronze=diamond I will have to diagreee.

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I laughed too hard at that

Benji · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleTom

What if the symbol of your league gives you the power to play really well, when you see that sparkling diamond you feel you can win forever forever, but when you log on to you lower server account you see the dark sombre bronze, it makes you sick it makes you hate yourself, "bronze loser you just a fat loser" it effects your mental state and you play worse because of it. So when Benji says bronze=diamond I will have to diagreee.

You misunderstand my point

dennistoo · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 2:58 PM

But NA is very laggy. So badly lagged that can't even micro. But i've to agree that NA is easy compared to SEA.

**iMSystem** · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 3:07 PM

I was just wondering if everyone noticed the same thing and it seems that they have.

I realize that more people on the NA means that the skill level will be spread out not as much as what it is for SEA.
What I didn't expect was how much the skill differential between the two is. I would have expected, our bronze to be their silver, like one league up, not two or three.
And so much that I can play an entire off race with just basic knowledge and still perform well.

UncleTom · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 3:10 PM

Well there is about 2million people on NA and about 100k on SEA, so Its kind of a difference.

dennistoo · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 3:13 PM

SEA players are full of cheesy builts and are super aggressive in the first 5 to 7min mark. I personally feel that the Diamond ranked players there are equivalent to our SEA Plat players here IMO. Let's say a PvP 4G vs 4G, i was far behind and yet can totally streamroll my NA opp with ease and needless to say with the massive lag on our end.

Well, it could be subjective tho..

Makra · Thu, 7th-Apr-2011, 4:05 PM

Ha, its funny this thread came up. Yesterday on Benji's stream a bunch of Yanks were trying to argue that all NA leagues have better players than the SEA counterparts. Some were saying that the games they were watching with YJY and iceiceice were equivalent to NA plat or diamond games. I don't play on NA much but the impression I get is that NA players are only better at the very top. And this seems to confirm it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=187230

BTW spartaz are you saying you're actually Silver in SEA and Diamond in NA?