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Unread Sat, 7th-Jan-2012, 11:09 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Dox.792  Race: Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 2,980 # 1
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Need Render Help (WCG 2011 Video)

*** EDIT ***

First attempt at encoding. Pretty poor. Gonna give it another shot later this week.

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Hi there,

As many people may recall, I put together a 15 minute video highlighting the course of events during the WCG Australia 2011 National Finals. Unfortunately, due to some faulty hardware (HDD/RAM), I was unable to successfully render the video without it crashing.

I've finally replaced the faulty hardware in my computer, and have successfully rendered the video, using the usual codecs & configuration I used to produce other such movies in the past. The only difference is, I'm now using Vegas 10, as opposed to 7.

For some bizarre reason - this is the file size of my movie, post-render:

Click the image to open in full size.

Yep. 98.5 GB.

So I'm looking for someone to help me troubleshoot this issue. The easiest way will be for someone to post an example of their operational (720p+) render configuration so I can compare settings. I've already googled a billion other examples and I can't spot any significant discrepancies. So I'm not sure why the compression is failing! I've reinstalled my codecs a dozen times with no further success.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
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Unread Sat, 7th-Jan-2012, 11:15 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xpaperclip.405  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 177 # 2
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I'm not familiar with Vegas, but if the file is so large presumably its lossless. As a workaround, what about encoding using a separate tool such as Virtual Dub or Handbrake?
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http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-com...dub/2009/05/31

That link I posted is a guide on how to compress video files with vitualdub. Not sure if it works on HD videos or not, and you WILL suffer a small amount of quality loss, but you'll save a lot of disk space doing so.

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It depends what file type and codec you are using. Personally when I render videos out I render it out in Lagarith Lossless Codec, Blackmagic Lossless, or any other good lossless codec. This turns into a huge file.

Next step is to open up Adobe Media Encoder (you can use MeGUI + an Avisynth script). From here, you encode the .avi that you previously made into a mp4 file using the x264 or h264 codec. This is the highest quality codec you can find for a small file. A 10 minute video usually comes down to a few hundred MB from a few hundred GB with minimal quality loss.

Here's a slightly outdated guide but can be used as the basis for encoding videos into x264: http://www.overclock.net/t/759715/fr...ing-with-megui

Edit: Vegas 10 sucks. Stick to older Vegas versions or switch over to FInal Cut (Macs only), AVID, Premiere, or After Effects.
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Render it as a different file type, smaller resolution and lower sample rate (44,100hz)
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Did you just click and drag the video out of the camera? if you did that, you should use the program which was bundled with the camera and export it through that.
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Load it up in virtual dub and set video to full compress then select your codecs and be done
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i use any dvd converter professional, its normal to get a huge file from software post render.

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Weird - in the past I've managed to produce compressed videos directly from Vegas. Well, thanks guys! VirtualDub is currently grinding away (15%) and hopefully I'll have something reasonable to present for you by the end of the evening.
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Okay the video is published. The quality is actually pretty disgusting, I'll be taking the time to encode in higher quality and see if I can reach a reasonable compromise with file size. Nonetheless, I've edited it in to the OP (and will probably create a new thread) for anyone who would like to see it.
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