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alwaysdryToT · Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 11:14 PM

there are decent number of teams in SEA i think, and many of them are active, no one can organize a
team league?

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**Frogmite** · Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 11:19 PM

Actually if you open your eyes you'll see that we're running right now BSGCL and PDCL. There is also TCL running.

Then, organizing a clan league requires time, organization, dedication and money.

If you have all that, you can start to think about a clan league.

There will be a new clan league system coming early 2012

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Roz · Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 11:20 PM

you can't count TCL, that's not a SEA event =p

**Frogmite** · Mon, 12th-Dec-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Roz

you can't count TCL, that's not a SEA event =p

Still have SEA teams playing in it

But yeah, team leagues are difficult to organize, that's why there were no SEACL season 2 yet.

**nirvAnA** · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogmite

Still have SEA teams playing in it

But yeah, team leagues are difficult to organize, that's why there were no SEACL season 2 yet.

to add to what froggy has said, its largely due to sponsorship issues, we have capable admins who have proven they can do a great job running tournaments and we have the clans and the demand for it. what we dont have however is the financial backing. with an amount of say $400 and seasl #2 can be done, maybe even less.

we are working on a new league for the new year, separated by divisions so hopefully that gets rid of the smurfing issue. im also thinking of having a "side FA Cup" tourney to run alongside it to make things interesting where all leagues will play against each other single elim style for all 32 teams. this will be in addition to the league where clans will get something for being champions of their respective divisions. kinda like EPL.

AxSGRiM · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 1:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Roz

you can't count TCL, that's not a SEA event =p

Agreed! haha, I've never heard of the TCL

**PiG** · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 12:47 AM

There's quite a few clan matches that go on. If you want a teamleague I'd recommend organising it yourself rather then just saying

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Originally Posted by alwaysdryToT

no one can organize a
team league?

Very little effort put into the OP. This thread could easily be asked on chatbox

Zanderax · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 1:02 AM

There are a myriad of different things that support clan battles. There is the BSGCL and the PDCL which covers low level gamers. In additional sc2sea just added the clans section to your right that better allows teams to advertise their clan wars and leagues and such.

The problem you seem to have is there is not enough for you to do all the time or there is not enough for your level of play. If that is the case then you can start your own, be a baller and ,(if you are successful), get mega respect from the community. The most respected man in the BSG is Frogmite. Why? Mostly because he is a pimp but also because he had the balls to run the the BSGCL like a bouse.

If you need some help, here is a 4 step plan to get you started:

1) Plan well. Find a good date and time, set your audience (lvl of play, types of clans, ect...) and make sure that you have everything you need before you post anything.
2) Make sure people get on board with the action. Do everything you can to advertise and announce your tournament. When you start up, get people involved in the matches, even if they are knocked out. For example, try running a small betting system to get people to bet on the games. Not real money, just something to get people excited.
3) ???????????
4) Profit + Respect = Rofit and/or Prespect

Good luck mate. Hopefully you are more action less talk, I would love to see another baller on this scene.

alwaysdryToT · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 3:23 AM

actually, i have enough enthusiasm to do this kind of thing, but i dont have that much time, i have my own team to manage. just very disappointed that such a server(small tho) dont own a teamleague. my team ToT is participating a NA team league now, i think it would be interesting if SEA have one.
and ya,u can say there are lots of clan war, but it is not systemic, i have to say.
i know BSGCL and PDCL,but i mean a higher level league

Volition · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 5:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alwaysdryToT

actually, i have enough enthusiasm to do this kind of thing, but i dont have that much time, i have my own team to manage. just very disappointed that such a server(small tho) dont own a teamleague. my team ToT is participating a NA team league now, i think it would be interesting if SEA have one.
and ya,u can say there are lots of clan war, but it is not systemic, i have to say.
i know BSGCL and PDCL,but i mean a higher level league

So basically, you are complaining that sc2sea doesnt have a high level clan league, but then go on to say you dont have time to organise one. Instead of saying how "disappointed" you are, how about you encourage one of the ToT members to organise it on SEA? As you are someone who has their own team to manage, I am sure you can coerce someone to get it done.

I think your attitude is a bit raw to be honest. there are so many people on sc2sea that put in massive amounts of effort, to then see a post like this that is basically complaining about the 1 item that might be lacking presently. Instead of whining about the problem, how about you be part of the solution.

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HteD · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 9:37 AM

TA has too much of a monopoly of good players, a SEA clan league system would be boring nowadays, or someone would just recruit koreans or something silly

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Zealo · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 10:19 AM

TA is a clan, not a team... and there are plenty of good players not on TA

syfMiley · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zealo

TA is a clan, not a team... and there are plenty of good players not on TA

I think big teD would know whether TA is a clan or a team

There are plenty of good players not on TA but if they are together in a team is the thing, TA would have enough of a lineup of possibly 2 A teams depending on team sizes

Zealo · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 12:39 PM

oh, i was just assuming most of TA's A team would be playing for SQLTt or xGKing

Roz · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zealo

oh, i was just assuming most of TA's A team would be playing for SQLTt or xGKing

think most of them would be archaic msi >.>

**ToR.Arnor** · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 1:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roz

think most of them would be archaic msi >.>

Correct, Their Active A/B according to Liquipedia (last updated on the 7th of Dec) would be broken down like this

Archmsi
EdgE
Rossi
deth
Voices
pinder

SQLTt
yang
SenSei

xGKing
MaFia

INTIME
riiChard

Unsigned (as far as I know?)
FighT
Cosmic

TA certainly has the most stacked line up itll just be a matter of whether their players will be free to compete for them based on whether ViroL, Glock, Benji and/or Will require them to compete under their sponsor teams banner

EDIT: To the OP, ill repeat what others have said, if you want a Team league for the M/GM players dont point fingers, try to so something about it yourself (even a post saying youd like to do it but need help)

cRSenSei · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 4:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnor@CityHunter

Correct, Their Active A/B according to Liquipedia (last updated on the 7th of Dec) would be broken down like this

Archmsi
EdgE
Rossi
deth
Voices
pinder

SQLTt
yang
SenSei

xGKing
MaFia

INTIME
riiChard

Unsigned (as far as I know?)
FighT
Cosmic

TA certainly has the most stacked line up itll just be a matter of whether their players will be free to compete for them based on whether ViroL, Glock, Benji and/or Will require them to compete under their sponsor teams banner

EDIT: To the OP, ill repeat what others have said, if you want a Team league for the M/GM players dont point fingers, try to so something about it yourself (even a post saying youd like to do it but need help)

You missed rayray.

**ToR.Arnor** · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SQLTt.SenSei

You missed rayray.

I was going purely off what deL posted on liquipedia, technically Rayray is considered "Inactive" as he has decided to take a break (hopefully not permanently) from SCII

**ToRSpartaz** · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 2:18 PM

Looking forward to the Sc2sea TCL system next year. Will be tons of fun ^^

ToR fiiiighting

**Maynarde** · Tue, 13th-Dec-2011, 2:36 PM

Frogmite, myself and some others have been talking about bringing back the clan league, but with divisions to seperate the stronger teams from the weaker ones but reward progress and the higher ranked teams as time goes on with anything from gear to cash. This is in alpha stages, keep an eye on this site early next year as we'll likely have something nutted out by then.

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