[nirvAnA]

This is regarding Dox's $500 tournament.

Dox is pretty busy admining the tournament so ill just help him make this post for everyone wondering what happened. Basically sixjaxmajor didn't clarify with dox beforehand and just suddenly showed up today asking dox if he could play and dox said no it was only open to SEA residents. Major obviously not happy with the decision continued to abuse dox for the next 45 mins while he busy was hosting the 200+ person tournament. Dox then attached a screenshot of the rules as proof.



Major then said "fair enough" and logged off, only to proceed to use another SEA players account who had registered for the tournament - sayfT aka "gerlan.au". He then continued to smurf in the tournament which arose the suspicions of mOOnGLaDe who was casting the game as the Terran play was of a very high level and certainly not of the diamond calibre actual sayfT's actual account showed. He continued to deny all accusations and play in the tournament until finally the undeniable rofl-worthy evidence surfaced.

Remember the issue is not the "clarity of the the rules" as yes, i agree that it wasn't that clear too in the OPs. It is more of how after clarifying, Dox had specifically told him he was not allowed to play and yet he went on to smurf on another account in order to do so.

Evidence:

Major was silly enough to not delete this "Account information swap" from his stream.

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Majors jtv backlog stream - http://www.justin.tv/sixjaxterran/b/290278944

Credit: Kamikazedurrrp from the stream chat posted this link

Previous evidence i had were identical hotkeys/apm from looking at replays of sixjax vs TLO, and also credit to edge who sent me a replay of the real sayft whom he played recently in the masters cup who had very different hotkeys/apm from the "sayft" who played today. But that really doesn't matter anymore because of the 100% evidence shown above.

Conclusion:

I would love to see some invited pros to our tournaments for instance the invited HuK in the TA invitational was awesome. Major is certainly a top terran who's game play i have alot of respect for. His behaviour and attitude however are totally unacceptable and not expected from a pro player on a professional team - not only does it reflect badly on him but the organisation he represents. If the organiser kindly hosted a tournament out of his own pocket and his own time, it is his rules so please respect them. Do not make your own interpretation of the rules, especially after the organiser has spelt it out directly to you and informed you that you cannot play.

Repercussions:

1. sixjax management will be notified of his behaviour by Dox.
2. I'm undecided if a tl post should be made. ill leave that up to Dox.
3. I'm also undecided of the punishment (site ban/future tournament ban etc) to be given to gerlan.au at the moment but he certainly betrayed the SEA community by helping a foreigner break the rules of one of our own community self-funded tournaments. He can argue his case below, will consider feedback and evaluate.
4. We take rules and smurfing very seriously and we will continue to monitor smurfs in our other tournaments like the BSG and GPD regularly to ensure a fair playing environment for the benefit of our players.

Quick Comments

	TAriiChard:	finally something we agree on
	dippa:	well played nirvana.
	EscapisT:	Justice is served

[SayfT]

Break the community?

I let major use my account because that was a douche move, the rules were NOT clear or EXPLICIT in any way as shown from the link below:

Tell me does every person checks TL events calendar before singing up for a tournament? the thread did NOT say ANYTHING about you HAVE to be a SEA citizen? Betraying the community? How did I betray the community? If the rules were clear none of this would not have happened.

When Ace came and took intime tourney out no one kept bitching and moaning as to how he is betraying the community and shouldnt take the money or whatever.

i'm sure almost every one of you will jump on the bandwagon and start LOLOL ITS CITIZENS ONLY LOLOL but like i said the rules were not clear, I saw how everyone was loling in chat when major wanted to play, I checked the tl thread to see that he did register and allowed him to use my account.

Once again, none of this would have happened if the rules were laid out clearly and besides major or any other pro could have just make a random name acc and register on TL.net thread, no one would know if he/she is an SEA citizen or not untill after the person would have won the tourney and then again this whole thing would have happened due to lack of information.

Cheers

Quick Comments

	nard:	dude, u helped him circumvent a ruling.
	Dox:	Ace didn't smurf anonymously on some no-name's account.

[Apth]

Originally Posted by Gerlan.au

Tell me does every person checks TL events calendar before singing up for a tournament? the thread did NOT say ANYTHING about you HAVE to be a SEA citizen?

Major asked Dox.
Dox told Major.
Major smurfed anyway.

That's pretty much it dude.

Quick Comments

	nirvAnA:	Agreed. Any "misinformation" was cleared up yet he knowlingly went on to break the rules
	Fourby:	thats really as simple as it gets.. It was unclear.. So he clarified and he didnt get the answer he wanted and chose to be a doodle
	ke_ivan:	Agreed. Dox clarified it with him already.

[HuT]

Originally Posted by Apth

Major asked Dox.
Dox told Major.
Major smurfed anyway.

That's pretty much it dude.

This.

Really douche of a move by major.

[TAdeL2]

MajOr is fully at fault here, SayfT is a very manner player and it's my belief that he would not have lent his account to Juan had he known the full story - that is, that MajOr had specifically asked Dox and myself about playing in the event and we had both made it very clear he is ineligible. He even suggested making the thread clearer which is of course fair enough but then to decieve me as his friend, Dox the admin and gerlan (SayfT) and smurf anyway shows he is still as immature as ever.

[TAEdgE]

Gerlan, the fact that your name would probably be at the end of a bracket as the winner is just a stupid thing anyway

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TASponge:

[SayfT]

Originally Posted by EdgE

Gerlan, the fact that your name would probably be at the end of a bracket as the winner is just a stupid thing anyway

I'm flattered that you think me giving my account to major was so that I could see my name as the "winner".

[TAEdgE]

Originally Posted by Gerlan.au

I'm flattered that you think me giving my account to major was so that I could see my name as the "winner".

Oh i didn't say you wanted that, i'm just saying whatever happens, or whoever is wrong, if you see 'SayfT' as the winner of a tournament with iaguz, deth, moonglade etc it just doesn't look right. Not saying anything else.

[Monk]

Not knowing the back story - Dox appeared in the wrong for mislabeling his tournament requirements. That is all.

[TAriiChard]

Originally Posted by Monk

Not knowing the back story - Dox appeared in the wrong for mislabeling his tournament requirements. That is all.

It says right there in the screen shot.

Entry Requirement. SEA Citizen and SEA account owner. He is not a SEA citizen so he's not allowed to join the tournament thus he doesn't meet the requirements.

[Monk]

Originally Posted by TAriiChard

It says right there in the screen shot.

Entry Requirement. SEA Citizen and SEA account owner. He is not a SEA citizen so he's not allowed to join the tournament thus he doesn't meet the requirements.

Only one place did it say that you had to be a SEA citizen - in the only place many wouldn't look. Going off of the thread requirements, it was only "Have a valid SEA account" that's all.

[TAminimat]

Originally Posted by Monk

Only one place did it say that you had to be a SEA citizen - in the only place many wouldn't look. Going off of the thread requirements, it was only "Have a valid SEA account" that's all.

Doesn't matter if its said once or fifty times its still the rules and he broke them even after he was told.

[Monk]

Originally Posted by TAminimat

Doesn't matter if its said once or fifty times its still the rules and he broke them even after he was told.

It was a rule not many people even know about, and I said off of face value - as in just looking at the situation. I didn't know, and to be honest I could hardly care about Princess and his previous actions. I'm just saying that the rule itself should have been a lot more clearer, rather then just having it on the calendar, which I have never actually even seen myself.

With that being said, after being told no by Dox himself, then abusing Dox for not allowing him to participate it was a pretty douche move to smurf even after being told no.

If the requirements were a lot clearer then this wouldn't of happened - I think the moral of the story is include everything on the thread rather then relying on people to go to the TL calendar to see if they're eligible for a tournament that the threads only requirement was to have a SEA battle.net account.

Quick Comments

	nirvAnA:
	Xenomorph:
	SayfT:

[TAdeL2]

I think we can take 3 points from this and nothing else, as I think we can assume MajOr did not tell Gerlan that he had been banned from participating by the admin (he tried the same on me when I explicitly told him he couldn't participate). All he knew was that MajOr wanted an account and that he signed up to what seemed like a tourney he was allowed to play in:

- Dox should have made his thread more specific even though MajOr didn't go about letting him know that it was misleading in the right way. The underlying point to specify SEA/Oceania resident in the OP was still there.

- Gerlan should 100% have notified the admin of someone else using his account and this whole thing would have been avoided from the get go.

- MajOr is a dick.

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TAEdgE:

[TAminimat]

People are so stupid. Love seeing smurfers/rule breakers etc getting caught. Also IMO I think that Gerlan should be giving a ban not permanent but definitely long.

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TAdeL2:

wrong

[SayfT]

Originally Posted by TAminimat

People are so stupid. Love seeing smurfers/rule breakers etc getting caught. Also IMO I think that Gerlan should be giving a ban not permanent but definitely long.

If the admins decide to ban me then that is their decision.

[Xeen]

Yes, the main tourney details as per the TL thread (which is what most people are going to pay attention to) do not say citizens only, but the tourney admin word is final. Intentionally breaking admin rules shows that you can't be trusted to comply with any tournament requirements.

As with all forms of tournament abuse, it should be taken seriously.

[Dox]

I'm busy as hell trying to manage the brackets right now, so I'll write something up in a little more detail later on. But here's my immediate thoughts.

• SixJax.Major made absolutely no attempt to communicate with me whatsoever. He says I "forced him" into buying an SEA account.
• Major asked deL (5 days ago) if he could compete. deL asked me. I said no.
• I asked Major why he didn't get in touch with me. He said, "I don't have your char code and deL is useless." I reminded him that he could have easily PM'd me on the TL forums but he said he can't do that. I asked him why and he replied with, "You don't understand, you're stupid."
• I'm pretty sure that battle.net has never been the first point of contact for tournament admins in any event.
• I'm hosting these events to grow the SEA competitive scene. I see the value in allowing international players to compete in SEA events, however this is not one of them.
• This is $500 of my own money. There are no sponsors for this event, it's just me. Therefore I don't really appreciate the huge amount of abuse and community backlash I received for not allowing Major to participate.
• I didn't allow GTS (ST_KingKong) to compete because he is not a SEA citizen. He understood.
• Major contacted me for the first time this morning. I explained the situation to him. He argued and abused me for 45 minutes. His argument was, "But you let FXO.Tgun play and he's in Korea? That's bias." I explained that FXO.Tgun is an Australian citizen who resides in Sydney, but he said it doesn't matter because he's in Korea right now. He was essentially just trolling me.
• After finally giving up on abusing me, he said "Fair enough" and logged out. Then he accidentally traded account information with Gerlan on his live stream.
• Major broke the rules by using someone elses account, and Gerlan broke the rules by giving someone his account after he'd been denied participation.
• Both players are banned from any future events I'm running. (Future Dox Cups may include a limited number of international participants.)
• This is supposed to be a community BUILDING event. This is doing nothing but damaging it. I'll be chasing up SixJax management because I don't like people trying to scam me.
• Three hours after being disqualified from the event, Major is STILL doing nothing but sitting in the tournament channel trolling and picking fights.

Quick Comments

	nirvAnA:
	TAminimat:
	Apth:
	TAdeL2:	Didn't prove Garlan knew MajOr was banned because your thread was misleading
	Stallion:	well handled imo :) good on you
	pikk0n:	Excellent move and let this be a warning to all would be smurfs there. It doesn't really matter if Gerlan knew it, but it's kinda similar to a BSG player allowing a masters player to play on his account
	Fourby:
	psygoh:	Dox's tourney, Dox's rules. No cheating
	ke_ivan:	Exactly! Didn't he play as someone else and wouldn't that constitute impersonation?

[TASponge]

At the end of the day it's Doxs tournament and he says what goes.

[Eddie]

My personal view is the more exposure and international interest in SEA events + players the better.

Players who have their own accounts, and actually play on ladder, eg gts are awesome, and hopefully we see more international players come to SEA soon. Not sure about lending people accounts for tournaments.

However, the descriptions of Major's behaviour is appualing. If the rules aren't clear, fair enough, you ask the Admin, then respect their ruling. Smurfing, and the abuse following is pathetic.

I shall also issue a ban of sixjaxmajor to all my Masters Cups, and any future SEA tournaments i may run.

At the end of the day, sure you may want to win a few $'s, but rules and rules, and most people just play for fun, no one should be allowed to ruin it deliberately for others.

I'm not sure about Gerlan.au's/sayfT's involvement, and if should be punished, but did seem a decent member of the community before today, so perhaps a stern warning, rather then total ban might be the way to go. But depends on how much he knew/deliberately assisted in breaking the rules.

Originally Posted by TASponge

At the end of the day it's Doxs tournament and he says what goes.

^ This.

Dox is doing a great thing, and i hope this doesn't have a negative impact on his great work and passion for the community.

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	Fourby:	♥