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kikkoman · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:09 PM

Hi Sc2sea! (this is my first post). I attended ACL Melbourne which was my first LAN tournament. I had a great time it was such a good event but anyway, the point of my post:

I was watching RuineD's Mech play vs Protoss and I have to say I was very impressed. I know a lot of people consider mech to be very weak in TvP but the lack of Terrans playing mech means protoss is not very adept at playing against it. It could also be argued that there is still more to be explored with Mech with very few pro games ending with Terran acquiring their Endgame death army composition (BC/Ghost).

As a lower level Terran (Diamond) who is having a lot of difficulty playing Bio TvP I would love to see some of RuineD's replays or possibly talk to him about his play.

If you read this RuineD send me a PM if you like

Edit: This may be in the wrong forum (Meant to post in SC2 General)

Stallion · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:12 PM

HuT is the mans replays i'd be after i hate his mech style. havn't really played ruined tho so mah

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	ROOTPetraeus:	wow bm
	ProAnnn:	YES I AGREE. Hut's mech is really irritating

MezjE · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:15 PM

RuineD TvP was godly.

Stallion · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CombatEZ

RuineD TvP was godly.

who'd he beat?

Fairyking · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:22 PM

I have trouble with it sometimes. Mainly mass cloak banshee thor raven T_T.

**fray`Alpha** · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:25 PM

He beat (at least) me (masters) Champi (GM?) and ... cant remember his full name.. help me out if u know it.. xeno.. something... big blonde guy (diamond).

Thing with my games is that i had seen him going mech against the other 2 so knew it was coming and pretty much blind countered
and he still was able to 2-0 me..

I was really impressed with his games.. both against myself and champi.
and as the OP said i think mech is alright to use at this level cause not many protoss play it reguarly enough to be comfortable agianst it

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Stallion · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mGGZeratul

I have trouble with it sometimes. Mainly mass cloak banshee thor raven T_T.

thats an old style of tvp that i think was painuser came up with just need to think about how to react to it to beat that ^_^

SanG · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SQL.Stallion

thats an old style of tvp that i think was painuser came up with just need to think about how to react to it to beat that ^_^

Some korean unknown did. I think Jjakji was the first to showcase it in GSL

SanG · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali

He beat (at least) me (masters) Champi (GM?) and ... cant remember his full name.. help me out if u know it.. xeno.. something... big blonde guy (diamond).

Thing with my games is that i had seen him going mech against the other 2 so knew it was coming and pretty much blind countered
and he still was able to 2-0 me..

I was really impressed with his games.. both against myself and champi.
and as the OP said i think mech is alright to use at this level cause not many protoss play it reguarly enough to be comfortable agianst it

What's "mech" in this context? Thor helion? banshee thor marine? Tank helion?

ProAnnn · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:29 PM

Thor Banshee raven is not really mech.. Just HT would counter it.

**fray`Alpha** · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cRSanG

What's "mech" in this context? Thor helion? banshee thor marine? Tank helion?

he opened with a marine tank that kept me on the defensive for abit, then into hellion tank viking. while i went into air. he then mixed in thors and ghost.

the end game was basically him using BC Thor Ghost and tanks, not much a protoss can do against that.. at least in a straight up engagement. and he had turrent rings and PF around the place on metro (so narrow corridors) so was damn hard to get around him.

but yeah, marine tanke into tank hallion viking, turtling then mixing in ghost thors and BC

Stallion · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali

he opened with a marine tank that kept me on the defensive for abit, then into hellion tank viking. while i went into air. he then mixed in thors and ghost.

the end game was basically him using BC Thor Ghost and tanks, not much a protoss can do against that.. at least in a straight up engagement. and he had turrent rings and PF around the place on metro (so narrow corridors) so was damn hard to get around him.

but yeah, marine tanke into tank hallion viking, turtling then mixing in ghost thors and BC

thats the wierdest passive terran style i can think of seems to be a bit of everything will be interesting to play against

**fray`Alpha** · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:37 PM

Yea should check out some of his games when the acl replays are released. he said his been doing it for a few months so it seems to be working for him. And I just didnt know how to beat it.

BearPack · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:42 PM

I was talking to him about it, he was calling it "ghostmech", just a large mech force with 3 or so barracks constantly pumping out ghosts for EMPs/nukes, and then mixing in whatever he felt like in the late game.
Regardless, he is a ******* scary player.

kikkoman · Sun, 8th-Jul-2012, 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cRSanG

What's "mech" in this context? Thor helion? banshee thor marine? Tank helion?

I will clarify what I mean by RuineD's mech from observing ~5 of his games.

His opens varied depending on map so I won't go into that too much. He opened hellion drop into expand or CC first into some rax to stay safe until he got tanks.

The mid game his composition was Hellion/tank with a huge siege line to secure 3 bases. At this time he added ghosts (I am not sure if that was reactive or if he does that every game.) When he was able to secure 4 bases he added 3 starports + a 2nd armory and a fusion core to start pumping out BCs and ship plating/ship weapons. At this time every spare 400 mineral was made into a CC and every time some supply was freed up from engagements he would slowly start adding more ghosts + BCs.