I wanted to inspire my mates to play sc2 again and refind what made the game fun to them, and ranted on for a bit with them in skype. Here is the chatlog of it. If you don't want to play sc2 just give this a read, maybe it rings true with you maybe it doesn't but like shortizz suggests I'm going to share it with you. Sorry for formatting and perhaps repetition but here you go. EDIT: I am Ryan, Stallion is Thomas, Shortizz is Shortizz. Also note that in no way is this meant to make stallion a villain, he just happened to say things that a lot of the starcraft community is saying right now, so he is my example.
[8:12:21 PM] Ryan Jones: its not about the best stallion
[8:12:24 PM] Ryan Jones: its about whats fun
[8:12:25 PM] Thomas Sturman: i literally win or lose depending on if i get my 3rd in pvz atm :P
[8:12:29 PM] Ryan Jones: and turtling then attacking
[8:12:31 PM] Ryan Jones: is boring
[8:12:32 PM] Thomas Sturman: lol sc2 isn't fun
[8:12:36 PM] Thomas Sturman: its the same old same old every match
[8:12:45 PM] Ryan Jones: yep
[8:12:53 PM] Ryan Jones: u just missed the huge rant I just had (just talked a bunch with delete which i didn't include because it was less important.
[8:12:59 PM] Thomas Sturman: same strat time in time out and adjust to if they make a mistake you can crush them for
[8:13:09 PM] Thomas Sturman: protoss gets hammered for aggression
[8:13:20 PM] Thomas Sturman: its rediculous
[8:13:22 PM] Ryan Jones: actually thats the other reason i played sc2 for
[8:13:25 PM] Ryan Jones: it was so worth it
[8:13:29 PM] Ryan Jones: when I played LoL
[8:13:30 PM] Thomas Sturman: its just getting 3 base build army a move hit forcefields
[8:13:32 PM] Ryan Jones: a win was just a win
[8:13:34 PM] Ryan Jones: sure it was fun
[8:13:43 PM] Ryan Jones: but that was because I was playing with friends
[8:14:05 PM] Ryan Jones: in sc2 uve been working for 25 mins to win the game and then you do and your like
[8:14:07 PM] Ryan Jones: YEEEEEEEEEES
[8:14:07 PM] Thomas Sturman: LoL with friends im finding a lot of fun
[8:14:13 PM] Ryan Jones: no breaks
[8:14:18 PM] Ryan Jones: constant tapping at keyboard
[8:14:20 PM] Thomas Sturman: yea sc2 wins feel better
[8:14:22 PM] Ryan Jones: its intense
[8:14:23 PM] Thomas Sturman: cos its just u
[8:14:28 PM] Thomas Sturman: and its intense
[8:14:28 PM] Ryan Jones: whereas LoL
[8:14:35 PM] Ryan Jones: if u get fed, u just kill everyone
[8:14:42 PM] Ryan Jones: if ur team as a whole is doing well
[8:14:42 PM] Thomas Sturman: o no doibt sc2 is harder
[8:14:57 PM] Ryan Jones: and ur hacing fun in skype or whatever its good
[8:15:01 PM] Ryan Jones: but its just another win
[8:15:07 PM] Thomas Sturman: but i get bored of same thing over and over 5 million times
[8:15:14 PM] Ryan Jones: unless its one of those one in a hundred games that are really back and forth and close
[8:15:46 PM] Ryan Jones: but going back to sc2 was like, being rewarded for the effort I put in, I didnt get to sit back and take a min break every few mins when i died
[8:15:50 PM] Ryan Jones: I was constantly playing
[8:15:56 PM] Ryan Jones: mechanically pushed to the limit
[8:16:02 PM] Ryan Jones: until that game was over
[8:16:08 PM] Ryan Jones: and its SO GOOD
[8:16:55 PM] Ryan Jones: when you lose your dissapointed in yourself, no its not HUR DUR TEAMMATE, u forget about balance sit down and say to yourself, damnit I suck what can i do to be better
[8:16:58 PM] Ryan Jones: YOU DO IT
[8:17:01 PM] Shortizz: ryan
[8:17:01 PM] Ryan Jones: THEN YOU WIN
[8:17:04 PM] Shortizz: collect these thoughts
[8:17:08 PM] Shortizz: put it into the sc2sea blogs NAO
[8:17:10 PM] Shortizz: lol!
[8:17:12 PM] Ryan Jones: haha
[8:17:15 PM] Ryan Jones: yeah maybe
[8:17:45 PM] Ryan Jones: people who complain about balance dont have fun, they get joy from winning
[8:17:57 PM] Thomas Sturman: o i know i suck
[8:18:01 PM] Ryan Jones: Zergs in season 1, they had heroes like fruitdealer, was it imba? yes
[8:18:04 PM] Ryan Jones: did he win anyway!
[8:18:07 PM] Ryan Jones: HELLS YES
[8:18:18 PM] Ryan Jones: because he found a way to win
[8:18:38 PM] Thomas Sturman: protoss is just really unforgiving
[8:18:44 PM] Ryan Jones: perhaps it is
[8:18:46 PM] Ryan Jones: so is terran
[8:18:47 PM] Thomas Sturman: pvp
[8:18:48 PM] Ryan Jones: zerg is forgiving
[8:18:51 PM] Ryan Jones: its a strength
[8:18:53 PM] Thomas Sturman: cheesefest
[8:18:53 PM] Shortizz: i play random these days
[8:18:58 PM] Shortizz: i get to shit on all 3 races
[8:19:07 PM] Ryan Jones: but u know what
[8:19:07 PM] Shortizz: you cant win a balance arguement against me
[8:19:29 PM] Thomas Sturman: if its a standrad pvp ill win but some of the douckebag cheeses just make me sad
[8:19:35 PM] Ryan Jones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTWjtnKv4vE
[8:19:53 PM] Shortizz: I went FFE and this mfer made a hatchery in my main
[8:20:01 PM] Shortizz: almost flipped
[8:22:14 PM] Ryan Jones: we play sc2 because we love it, the way the races interact, so different yet also similar. The feeling of winning, of putting hard work into something you enjoy and reaping the benefits. we play sc2 because it feels good to win, and because it feels good to win and bad to lose you blame balance or you man up and get better. thats why pros are pros and ur average joe is complaining out balance in gold league
[8:22:28 PM] Ryan Jones: because they try harder, they improve themselves
[8:22:35 PM] Ryan Jones: AND THEY LOVE IT
[8:23:03 PM] Ryan Jones: thats why u guys are gm, on pro teams because you stayed in, you had the ups and downs
[8:23:11 PM] Ryan Jones: but you didnt give up
[8:23:16 PM] Ryan Jones: you kept practicing
[8:23:54 PM] Ryan Jones: and you enjoyed it, not because there were deathballs not because brood wars gameplay was more diverse but because it was worth it, it was satisfying
[8:24:06 PM] Ryan Jones: ok imma stop this is getting out of hand
[8:24:07 PM] Ryan Jones: LOL
[8:25:45 PM] Thomas Sturman: yea WoL saddens me i like Hots i cna attack way mroe often and do crazy shit
[8:25:49 PM] Thomas Sturman: espically to terran
[8:27:31 PM] Ryan Jones: maybe hots has more interesting gameplay, it has more units so I would assume it would. but doing the crazy stuff isnt why I play sc2. I dont play macro so I can do crazy stuff. I play team games off race and stuff and do crazy things but then I go back to standard in 1v1s soon after
[8:27:36 PM] Ryan Jones: team games dont keep me
[8:27:44 PM] Ryan Jones: its not the crazy that keeps u playing for a long time
Hope you enjoyed it, i added breaks because it was unreadable haha
taht sons of starcraft thing gave me chills hard, you actually realise how much some people love this game and and it reminds you why you love it so much aswell. The evidence is simply looking at people like artosis and tasteless and being inspired at what lengths they have gone to to achieve things in starcraft and follow their dreams
I wish you had asked before posting this Ryan, I've just come off a 14 hour shift cleaning caravans and am just grumpy in general, this rambling by me doesn't mean anything. I took a month off to enjoy summer and friends and family who are back in town, I'm playing some LoL on the side and will probably continue too through the year. I still enjoy sc2 BUT its one of those games that sometimes i just want to bitch about BECAUSE ITS ******* HARD. Sure my passion isn't what it used to be but thats also because of situations like the fact my laptop is starting to shut down so can't play it 24/7 as have to use brothers computer. Also players like Whiteluxary/OnsDotaKing and his other 3 smurfs who map hack obviously really take the joy out of playing one of the best games ever invented. The passion is still there i still find myself before bed just seeing players like mafia or delete streaming and being like those guys play some good intelligent play i wonder if i can learn anything from watching them. I don't think if i was burnt out passion wise i could do that. But in saying that i was getting close to burning out with ASL screwing me in exam week hard and my marks suffering for it. I really needed some time out. im gona stop ranting now as im rambling, laters lad im not going anywhere
I wish you had asked before posting this Ryan, I've just come off a 14 hour shift cleaning caravans and am just grumpy in general, this rambling by me doesn't mean anything. I took a month off to enjoy summer and friends and family who are back in town, I'm playing some LoL on the side and will probably continue too through the year. I still enjoy sc2 BUT its one of those games that sometimes i just want to bitch about BECAUSE ITS ******* HARD. Sure my passion isn't what it used to be but thats also because of situations like the fact my laptop is starting to shut down so can't play it 24/7 as have to use brothers computer. Also players like Whiteluxary/OnsDotaKing and his other 3 smurfs who map hack obviously really take the joy out of playing one of the best games ever invented. The passion is still there i still find myself before bed just seeing players like mafia or delete streaming and being like those guys play some good intelligent play i wonder if i can learn anything from watching them. I don't think if i was burnt out passion wise i could do that. But in saying that i was getting close to burning out with ASL screwing me in exam week hard and my marks suffering for it. I really needed some time out. im gona stop ranting now as im rambling, laters lad im not going anywhere
You had better not be going anywhere yo I totally get everything you've said though, I've felt it all as well. Better days ahead yo, come back when you're ready to and we'll be here
I wish you had asked before posting this Ryan, I've just come off a 14 hour shift cleaning caravans and am just grumpy in general, this rambling by me doesn't mean anything. I took a month off to enjoy summer and friends and family who are back in town, I'm playing some LoL on the side and will probably continue too through the year. I still enjoy sc2 BUT its one of those games that sometimes i just want to bitch about BECAUSE ITS ******* HARD. Sure my passion isn't what it used to be but thats also because of situations like the fact my laptop is starting to shut down so can't play it 24/7 as have to use brothers computer. Also players like Whiteluxary/OnsDotaKing and his other 3 smurfs who map hack obviously really take the joy out of playing one of the best games ever invented. The passion is still there i still find myself before bed just seeing players like mafia or delete streaming and being like those guys play some good intelligent play i wonder if i can learn anything from watching them. I don't think if i was burnt out passion wise i could do that. But in saying that i was getting close to burning out with ASL screwing me in exam week hard and my marks suffering for it. I really needed some time out. im gona stop ranting now as im rambling, laters lad im not going anywhere
Dont worry stallion, the message wasn't about you, I kept your stuff in cause I didn't want to rewrite it and I understand your position. However, the crap I spewed out wasn't just for you but it was for everyone. It's because we love starcraft.
I love starcraft because no other game consistently makes me learn, every time i play i discover something new. I understand how to counter something and i discover one more of my millions faults and every time. No matter, throughout loss and win i see improvement and its amazing feeling
[8:27:36 PM] Ryan Jones: team games dont keep me
[8:27:44 PM] Ryan Jones: its not the crazy that keeps u playing for a long time
hey... hey....... I keep playing cause i LOVE the crazy shit :P
other then that nice inspirational speech.. brought a tear to my eye :P
The crazy is good but we play macro in sc2 as well. It's not just because we want to win, it's the culmination of all the effort you put in, the hard work, the learning that winning rewards you with. But like I said a little crazy now and then doesn't hurt.
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