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"There is no point in being angry at yourself for mistakes unless you combine it with a resolve to do better next time."

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I've done many regretful and damaging things to the scene in the past months (specifically after the inauguration of sR), and this will serve as an apology to all that were affected and to those that I betrayed. It will also serve as a constant reminder that I made a lot of mistakes in the past few months and that I will try my best to do better, but here we go


When sR started up, it was intentionally going to be a "troll" clan, where only a select few of my friends and I would play in clan wars and play around together. Initially, I never thought of growing it into a community clan and after we were successful in our first couple clan wars, I felt like I could do something better with the clan and really make sR one of the top clans. But to do that and to make people pay attention sR had to had to be recognized for more feats. ToR was recognized as the best clan outside of aLt and TA at the time and we wanted to win our clan war vs them as much as possible. in doing so, when we opened up with a strong lead, DaNo demolished our players until we had 1 player left. It was a call that made me delve deeper into the world where I made mistakes, and we called upon FrontierSPR to play ace, which he eventually lost due to being called to play for SPR in their other cw and he thereby threw the game.

When people start to do wrong things, they don't really realize the severity of their actions and I at the time, admittedly didn't feel I did much wrong sending Frontier, especially since he lost. However, after SanG did research work and found out about our usage of one of SPR's players, he approached me and that was when I realized I was stepping into uncharted territory. I understood that I did something wrong, but to prove that we would not commit wrong again we had to make a difference through our actions instead of our words. So there goes on a few months, I try my best to create a more positive image of sR, the activity within the clan is resumed and a lot more new talent is being recruited. I'm really happy with the success I was able to create but it wasn't enough.

As many people already know, I was very close to announcing vN recently, and around a month before this, Antelope approached me with the offer to join sR, but we had no BSG division. To be honest, almost about to abandon my duties as the sR leader to turn into a full-time manager/player for vN I really let go of trying to rebuild sR's reputation and my mistakes were resumed, once again. After watching a sour defeat of the sR.BSG division to ToR's Suipr (All-kill) I felt that our BSG division was not being represented well. I saw posts like "sR isn't ready to take wins off other well established BSG rosters" and I was propelled into wanting to restore faith in some people by helping sR win their next CW. So I did it. I played for the BSG division, playing T and I won the CW vs FS for them. I felt bitter about what I did and promised to never play again.

Fast forward 2 weeks, sR had a clan war with TCP. We were, once again, extremely close to defeat and in that period Antelope found Psych to play for him. Psych, being in TCP before really wanted it and one again I felt, hey it doesn't really matter. I believed that until last night, when the SC2SEA Admin team (with their exceptional talents) caught me and Psych out. To be honest, I was waiting for it to happen but I had concealed myself with so many lies beforehand to try and make myself feel better of what I did that when Lemminks finally PMed me with their conclusive evidence I completely blanked out for a moment. I took a few moment to think and acknowledged my wrongdoings to him.

I know after this "coming out", I will never again be respected by the community and have severely damaged the reputation of sR and possibly vN in the making. However, I, along with Antelope and Psych would like to apologize to the community and I really want to make sure I really repent my mistakes with actions, myself this time. I hope that all of sR's players from across all divisions continue to strive for better results and try to forget the things I have done, good and bad and look forward to a better future with Dream. I hope my mistakes do not create a poor image on the players on sR, who really deserve much more respect than I ever will in this community. Each and every one of them deserve a second chance more than I. I was given one and I let go of it as soon as I asked for it, and I will try my best to correct my mistakes.

All in all, I will leave sR and leave Dream (Hoa Truong) aka marinehero from BW and I am ready to take any punishment set before me by the team, readily. I want to distance myself from vN as well, and leave it to the capable hands of Firefly (Peter Barber), who has attended multiple LANS in melbourne with his buddy RuineD. I want to thank each and every one of you who have helped build sR to this and helped the initiating of vN and apologize to all the people that I have hurt throughout this process, specifically all members of SC2SEA but the players affected by the wrongdoings of my actions and the unnecessary fights between "x clan member" and "y clan member". I want this to stop and I hope that people allow me to take the full blame for my and other's actions and I hope you guys will give me another chance in the future (near or not).

For now, hopefully, I will be able to continue adminning wT weekly and coaching players, trying to improve myself as much as I can and continue to help the scene in any way I can. I hope that everyone sees my mistakes and never ever thinks of doing anything as stupid as I have done. I notice that I am still 14 but I also know that this doesn't explain or reduce the severity of my actions.

TLDR;
+ [Timeline] +
  • Helped start up sR but realized we could so something big with it. In first clan war with major clan ToR, decided to call upon Korean player from SPR, Frontier. Start of my wrongdoings
  • Apologized to people, asked for a second chance
  • Started going on track, about to start up vN but wanted to help regain face for bSG division after upsetting first cw all kill, started mistakes again



Thank you and GLHF, a thousand apologies again.
GRiM

Special sorries to: Lemminks (TCP), Spartaz (ToR), sPooK (ToR), Chadmann (fray, TA) and nirvana. They were the ones that gave me a second chance and I let go of it. I am very sorry to the rest of SC2SEA as well.
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 12:29 PM BnetId: bLake.xxx  Race: Clan: VB/MirG  Location: Sydney  Total Posts: 752  # 1
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Re: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

This is a pretty severe set of blunders, but you sound sincere in wanting to do right finally. I just hope that this isn't just you trying to save-face after you've been caught and that you are really genuine about sorting things out. Time will tell I suppose
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 1:06 PM BnetId: Savior.127  Race: Location: Auckland, New zealand  Total Posts: 431  # 2
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Not really what I wanted to get home and read..
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 1:07 PM BnetId: sRNamakaye.100  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts: 647  # 3
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When GRiM told me about this last night, I desperately hoped he was trolling me. Now that it's official, I don't know what to say. I suppose all I can say is Good luck and hope to see you come back some time!
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 1:29 PM BnetId: ChowMuddha.673  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts: 187  # 4
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Pretty big shock, I remember when Antelope applied for ETL although was not accepted. I was interested to see how he would progress as a player.
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 1:31 PM BnetId: iMSundeR.451  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts: 225  # 5
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There are a lot of people, in respected teams and clans, that already know all of this and and it's disgusting that this has been going on for so long.

I'm sure there are many other instances where this, and other shady pointless things, have happened that you aren't telling the whole truth about, but hey, nobody has hard evidence so nothing can be done.

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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 1:52 PM BnetId: Mox.797  Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts: 159  # 6
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Whilst I'm not condoning your actions or anything of the sort, it takes a lot of guts to actually come out and admit your faults with what appears to be genuine sincerity. It marks an important step towards correcting those problems and ensuring it does not happen again. Everyone makes mistakes and hopefully you do (as you appear to have) learn from them.

Keep trying to help out the community as much as you can.
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 1:59 PM BnetId: iVnStandard.354  Race: Clan: iVn  Location: Brisbane  Total Posts: 259  # 7
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it takes a lot of guts to actually come out and admit your faults.
he's already been caught, not sure why it's hard at all.

pretty sad that antelope would cheat in a friendly bsg cw.
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 2:09 PM BnetId: Eros.779  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts: 274  # 8
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What you did fucked a lot of people over, some people will be quick to forgive and forget but what you did was wrong and it will take a lot more than a blog for me to even begin to forgive you for what you've done. The other factor that pissed me off is that you have only come out and admitted to all of this after you were forced into a corner with undeniable evidence. Dont come here with sob story's if you really are sorry and want to fix the reputation that you have then ******* work for it and prove to this community that your not another smurf that wont learn from his mistakes.
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 2:11 PM BnetId: FaDeAbSTrACt.306  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts: 58  # 9
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pretty sure he plays like a BSG anyway so it should be okay
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 3:02 PM BnetId: neKo  Race: Location: Brisbane  Total Posts: 220  # 10
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Apologies are cool and all. But you DID get caught out, so it doesn't really mean anything at the end of the day
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 3:13 PM BnetId: RicocheT  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Perth  Total Posts: 390  # 11
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To be honest, sR has never had a good rep.
Taking players from other clans sure as hell won't make you earn any friends.

You've now given your apologies, however the damage has already been done. When you ask for a clan war, both clans are trusting that the other clan is also doing the right thing. Can sR actually still be trusted to play in a clan war? You've admitted that both you and Antelope have taken players from other clans externally to play for your clan.

Needless to say, time for you to prove to the community that you're going to turn over a new leaf.
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 3:16 PM BnetId: sRGRiM.784  Race: Clan: N/A  Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts: 860  # 12
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I'm not asking forgiveness, I'm just acknowledging my wrongdoings :/

@Sunder

The only other smurfing instance would be JYoong, who is a member of sR and that was cleared up already. However the Frontier situation was something completely shady and uncalled for that I will openly admit was extremely wrong. I know people suspect us for more but if I have already been caught there wouldn't be any point lying more about my wrongdoings, it wouldn't help or worsen my case. Sorry again.

@Eros

Never asked for forgiveness, I'm just acknowledging it publicly and I will work for it as much as I can.

@Shampoo

Think whatever you wish, I know my terran is far above BSG and what I did was completely wrong.

@Undone

I am a real life friend of FaDe members Panda and Dante, and when I mentioned I'd be opening up sR they hopped on board optionally. As for eKol and friends, they did not like the more casual atmosphere at fade which eventually resulted in their leaving in your clan. I know sR may not be trusted anymore, but hopefully without someone like me in the team the reputation can be still concrete. As for Antelope using other players from other clan this is not true, Psych is in sR.
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 3:17 PM BnetId: ToRPetrify.729  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts: 390  # 13
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At least it wasn't DeathAngel again
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 3:22 PM BnetId: FSbonik 383  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts: 1  # 14
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New Tue, 25th-Sep-2012, 3:26 PM BnetId: sRGRiM.784  Race: Clan: N/A  Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts: 860  # 15
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@FaDePetrify I know, it was equally as wrong though

@b0niK I agree, I am not deserving at all of any respect
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