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I didn't see that discussion but I understand how idra feels! Though to be honest I completely disagree. I think the nature of both races production and the constant pressure applied by both races at top level means the idea of "just turtle till x time" isn't really a viable option as incontrol said, the zerg can just blindcounter it and the protoss needs a retarded amount of tech to counter that.

This rage post was mainly because:

a) I forgot to poop creep at his 4th and he got it up in a small gap in my scouting while he attacked, by the time i scouted it it had 10 cannons which on a map as big as TDA is very hard to handle.

b) I reacted badly to the protoss counter of my counter, and wasted money on infestor roach again rather then broods straight away. Also my original counter should have just stayed at home as i just crushed protoss army AND could go straight into broods, there was no reason to immediately counter.

As for how do you stop a turtling protoss? You never let the protoss take a 3rd. A 4 base 75 drone, 8 gas zerg pwns the crap out of a 2 base protoss. yes, even if they turtle to mofoship you can get maxed so much earlier then them and just attack and force trades even if its with broods. However if they have 3 base and 6 gas the zerg needs 100 drones and 6 base to maintain parity in terms of income efficiency. Basically if you don't have about that much of an advantage and the protoss uses FF, splash etc, then they will just out-efficiency you. But the problem is with 5 queens and 100 drones u have shit all supply for army and so just get massacred each fight anyway. So just don't let them get a 3rd in the first place. In the case that they do get it, you need to rush hive. broods or ultra/bane ftw

@NXZ @Zealo Yeah more then 4 spines a base is a bit of overkill because 32 spines for the THREAT of a warp prism is just ridiculous, i think a small muta force to catch it is quickly and then go harass somewhere/sacrifice them, OR just a corruptor or two patrolling to intercept as stallion suggested!

Essentially what happened in the game im talking about is i got ahead surprisingly and then made some errors and lost a game i really should have won, considering on TDA it's so rare to be able to defend the initial gateway VR pressure if u take a fast 3rd, I was especially pissed to get so far ahead multiple times and throw it away.

As always, learn from your losses yo

Pig, giving out free coaching in his blog WHAT A BOSS

I don't even play either race and i enjoyed this read I know Jinro loves Toss on TDA too :P

Haha, nice one.

Cool rage PiG, thanks to share. I can feel you cooling down during the process.

But you need to share the replay too so we can rage with you or make all sort of theories on how you could have tried some Ultra rush on one base or something like that.