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New Thu, 8th-Jan-2015 11:00 PM
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TLR We need drama back in this community, professionalism is something that we can never truly achieve in a scene as small as ours and have it grow. Maybe one day when the game becomes much larger we can aim for that but for now we need to drop the ******* PR bullshit and bring things back to how they where.

Also since I'm writing most of this from memory a few things may be slightly inaccurate but I think the general point is still pretty clear (and I ramble a bit skim reading at times might be necessary)

I guess I should start where I'm coming from, as far as history goes I came into the scene pretty late (around early 2012 if I remember rightly). But automatically I was drawn to the community and the people involved, like everyone else I had heard of Teamliquid far before SC2SEA but it lacked something for me. For a long time I couldnt pinpoint it but now with confidence I can easily say that Teamliquid lacked personality for me, the scale was too large and names didnt mean shit the only people you remembered where Mods and Trolls. But SC2SEA was different here was this home grown community site that felt really ******* organic, there was more circle jerking then a ******* gay bukkake and status meant everything. I meant lets be honest now if some random diamond made a detailed post pointing out how >insert pro player here was actually just a one trick pony or something people would hear him out. I mean of course a few of us would tell him that he ******* knows nothing and should shut up but more then half of the people who would respond would post some PR friendly bullshit like "Some decent points are made/Good write up" or "Come on guys hes just expressing his opinion give him a fair chance". Compared to back when I first came into the scene if someone made a post like that they would be ******* torn to shreds SC2SEA was a hierarchy and had more cliques then High school but that was what made it so ******* amazing.

I lurked for a long time before even attempting to post anything, I read all the old threads and learnt all the in jokes (shoutout to my school for giving me a laptop and not blocking SC2SEA or Twitch). But that was great, it was like this website was some shitty slice of life anime that you had to know a bit about before you could jump into it. Everyone had such defined personalities I mean one of the first people who's name I really started to notice was Spook and I mean how couldn't you. Here was this ******* dude who would shit talk anyone and everyone one of the first streamed matches from SC2SEA I watched was Spook verse Centrelink in a BO3 because one of them started shit talking the other and you know what this was better then most pro matches I have watched. I mean they where both really ******* bad but the hype leading up to it was amazing, here was two people you recognized who genuinely and openly disliked each other playing for nothing but pride and shit talking rights. It was personal and it was organic, this wasn't organized by a third party this was a challenge issued on an open forum and that is what made it great. None of this was uncommon either I mean there used to be ******* weekly blogs calling out people for a BO3 RvR, Mafia tried to revive the SEA ladder by basically challenging anyone to beat him and who could forget the ******* epic series that where played and loser had to change his name to something stupid for a week. These always meant more to me as a viewer then any prizepool because it wasnt just a game of Starcraft it was infused with personality, it was more then just a game where the players are literally interchangable and no one gives a **** about (COUGH EVERY KOREAN TOURNAMENT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS COUGH). These where two people you where genuinely interested in and as a result this spilled over into lans and caused them to be even more interested ACL and local tournaments where so hype because of the storylines that existed beforehand.

Just as a footnote to that I would like to say it wasnt exclusive to players, there was massive rivalries between clans and that made things even better. Everyone in this scene knows everyone and because of that you hated other clans, I was in TCP and hated SR with a passion because I though Grim was a snide twat and generally disliked a lot of there players. So any form of Clanwar against them was so exciting for me and I wanted to win more then I ever have in any form of professional tournament. But in a sense clans where a lot like people so I wont write another massive paragraph that basically states the same thing.

Finally I just wanna talk about why this website is dying and face it, it is there is no where near as many people and threads as there used to be and at times chatbox is totally dead which is something that never used to happen. We've had moments where things looked like they might change I mean **** I would say in the last year the times when things looked like they might be on the rise where caused by the likes of old IXL, Frustration calling large amounts of people out (I still have no idea half the time if you are trolling or not but **** dude its more entertaining then most of the shit people usual spew), Troy ******* over that dude from Europe and AV ******* everyone over. Moments when no matter how hard people tried they couldnt keep up the PR facade for a brief moment we had the drama and rivalries back and we had what made me fall in love with the SC2 community back. But it died it was killed because now all we want to aim for is "Professionalism" well **** that you assholes wanna bring back the golden age then do something about it. BE INTERESTING, someone does something you really hate and you know is total bullshit call them out, bring back the troll posts and the ******* stupid meme threads, hell half of these problems could probable be solved by bring back people like Tgunn or Light etc who literally embodied the spirit of this scene. We have come to an crossroad and what we do from here is basically how we decide if this website becomes a hotspot of activity that causes the SEA scene to grow larger then ever with the release of Legacy of the Void or we all **** off back to league of legends and let that shitty ******* game grow even more.
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 7:49 AM BnetId: Crescendo.568  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts: 385  # 31
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 7:50 AM BnetId: DroneProbe.445 NA  Race: Clan: ETL  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts: 228  # 32
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i dont fite grills fg
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 7:54 AM BnetId: Crescendo.568  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts: 385  # 33
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u wot m8? grills fite gud.
Don't ph34r me cuz I'm pretty. Ph34r me because I maek HyuNstoppable roaches
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 7:56 AM BnetId: ShayneRarma.215  Race: Location: Newcastle  Total Posts: 241  # 34
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~ Calmly awaits Frustration BM ~

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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 8:11 AM   Total Posts: 938  # 35
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 8:16 AM BnetId: Crescendo.568  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts: 385  # 36
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You mean when Kelazhur played on my account? That's when my laptop broke down completely and he burned my bonus pool for me.

Typical ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How many games did he play? doesn't matter the reason that's still getting boosted.
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How many games did he play? doesn't matter the reason that's still getting boosted.
So I don't get kicked out of GM? If people know about that, that's not a concern to me. I was the one that told Frustration that it wasn't me he played.

Kelazhur played 4 games, won against frustration and lost the other 3. Seems like he tried to burn it with random and lost to mid masters with his Zerg.
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whoa this escalated quickly...
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 12:26 PM BnetId: pXtRoy.225  Race: Clan: pX  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts: 631  # 40
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got a mention in best blog 2015. Everyone should just give up now cause Eros already wins.
Also we cannot forget the FeDe or WhiteLuxury incidents, quality banter from sc2sea.
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 12:33 PM   Race: Location: Perth  Total Posts: 417  # 41
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So I don't get kicked out of GM? If people know about that, that's not a concern to me. I was the one that told Frustration that it wasn't me he played.

Kelazhur played 4 games, won against frustration and lost the other 3. Seems like he tried to burn it with random and lost to mid masters with his Zerg.
Yeah but how many other games did he play before that... we all know u cant be legit now unless u can prove it by streaming or something..
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 12:34 PM BnetId: asdasdff  Race: Clan: $$$$$$$$  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts: 1,466  # 42
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So I don't get kicked out of GM? If people know about that, that's not a concern to me. I was the one that told Frustration that it wasn't me he played.

Kelazhur played 4 games, won against frustration and lost the other 3. Seems like he tried to burn it with random and lost to mid masters with his Zerg.
then that's fine, 4 games is nothing. I was legitimately just asking
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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 1:04 PM BnetId: JunO.473  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts: 67  # 43
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Well other than by words I can't really prove anything. I was in numerous Skype calls when I was playing against hydra, destiny, forgg and incontrol. Give few people a shout in chat. I don't know how much that'd prove though.
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we all know u cant be legit now unless u can prove it by streaming or something..
I try, I wish. Today's a good day at least.

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New Fri, 9th-Jan-2015, 2:52 PM BnetId: ToRSchnitzel.758  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts: 1,045  # 45
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Well Eros has got his wish already I guess
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