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Id actually really like something like that in general, just cause then Id see all these stats and things like that (as you'd need to store all matches etc).

But Im a stats geek....

I hope they do unranked vs unranked clan wars

Yes, in theory it's exactly what would solve all the problems that everyone seems to have. BUT in practice it's far too much effort and just a silly notion overall because no one really cares enough to actually do anything. People will just keep bickering and complaining over semantics because that's all people really do around here.

I dont tell my guys to actively ladder on NA, they might, but Ive been following the rule of has to be active on SEA, like most tournaments at the lower level suggest.

Im happy to do change everyone to playing on NA, but Im always on SEA as are most of my players.

If I could see who was on each server and have the ability for the clan system to span all servers, that would be amazing...

Shh, then it wont happen and I wont get my glorious stats

But yeah it wouldnt solve this issue...

Well i've scratched together some stuff -
(NOT SAYING I'M THE OFFICIAL RULES MAN)

Activity -
Activity is determined by looking at the players most active server.
40 games in current season (wherever they're active, NA or SEA).

Dropped out of masters -
If the master dropped out of masters less than 10 (down from 12) months ago, they are not allowed to play.

If they switched race and have been plat/dia for the past 4 (down from 6) months with an active ladder schedule they are allowed to play.

Can I play if the leaders agree?
Sure you can, if you've passed the above guidelines and THEN the managers/leaders agree upon you playing in the clan war, then go for it.

Seems fine to me.

12 months/6 months is a long time to wait to prove that you've "legitimately" demoted. SC2 is only 3 years old in it's entirety.
Honestly, any high diamond player is just as close to masters as that ex-masters guy who got demoted last week.

I honestly don't know why people don't just treat it as good practice. It's not like anyone even gets any kind of prize for these clan wars. It's pretty obvious if a really good player leaves 50 games in a row to get demoted to play.

Seems good, except I would say leaders can agree to exceptions in all cases, not just if they pass the above...

There's just too many grey areas in the PD clan wars, I really think guidelines like these would actually help leaders, even in a small way.

So many disagreements, like ours, would have been COMPLETELY negated thanks to this.

I think something like this is required now for wars/tournaments since blizz have changed the ladder placements. We need to take into consideration the large amount of demotions that Erasmus has pointed out.

I think you might need some extra provisions for the next little while due to the ranking change this season... there are a lot of ex-masters players who have been legitimately reclassified diamond.

I still think activity is more important then time..

If you were masters 3 months ago, but have done 300 games in diamond since then, how can we say they are masters...

Basically I think there are 2 very important factors. One is trust. We trust that both sides will field the players suitable at the skill level the clanwar is, that is, PD plats and diamonds are playing. It is imo, pretty common sense, to field the lowest leagued person first. It is never fun to field a diamond or ex master as starter to kill all the plats on the other side. It is not fun for the plats to be destroyed by a player obviously above their skill level. If you are going to field an ex-masters, my opinion is ask. And such players should be aces as much as possible. Also let the other side discuss with their players if they are fine with playing with an ex masters.

In a recent BSG, my silver player who was suppose to go next didn't want to play against gold players because the opposing side was starting to field golds. I respected that and opened the spaces to the rest of the players who were gold or willing to play a gold. In a PD clanwar, when the other side didn't have any more players and requested to send an ex masters, I asked the remaining players who were suppose to play if they are willing to take him on. At least they know what they are up against if they agree. Also it opens the option to the opposing clan, to do likewise. Perhaps there is a diamond who is ex masters. So there is a matching of skill level and option to do so.

While it is true that a plat can kill a masters, the probability of that happening is lower than a diamond or ex masters killing plats. Diamond players can lose to plats but they dun lose to plats as often as plats beating diamonds (unless the plat is really good and actually performing way above diamond levels already due to whatever e.g. talent, enlightenment). So it's a little bit of common sense and trying to make sure as much fair play is possible for all to have fun. The thrill is always when a plat does all kill even the diamonds. I remember when I was gold and I took out a plat and diamond in the FSCT. That was a high note for me because I was failing so much on ladder I was demoralised.

The 2nd point is the leaders should know their members. A player can be playing on any server but the leader should know or be informed, the league that player is on the other servers. If a player does not ladder on SEA regularly but on NA, KR or even EU and is masters there. It is then common sense, u do not field this player in a PD clanwar even if he is only plat on SEA. It was an advice I gave a certain leader (not named) because he wasn't aware of the real skill level of a player he thought was gold or plat but who was playing at masters level. It was of course, an unintentional action but still leaders/captains should be aware and players should be truthful about their skill level on the other servers.

A ranking system for every SEA player for BSGPDMGM is probably going to be extremely difficult but if we can practice trust and some common sense, I think a lot of such matters or disagreements can be avoided.

If it's okay with people, can I run by you all a guidelines list/rules system at the turn of next season?

Pox put forward an excellent point.