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Lokth · Mon, 24th-Jun-2013, 3:31 PM

There will be alot of legit ex-Masters now Diamonds around at the moment as well. Blizzard changed the percentage of players in masters this season (reason for the mass demotion). Last season it was the top 7%, now it the top 2%. The Skill celling in diamond has been raised by this.

Not allowing these players to play for a year is a tad brutal.

**syfRize** · Mon, 24th-Jun-2013, 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lokth

There will be alot of legit ex-Masters now Diamonds around at the moment as well. Blizzard changed the percentage of players in masters this season (reason for the mass demotion). Last season it was the top 7%, now it the top 2%. The Skill celling in diamond has been raised by this.

Not allowing these players to play for a year is a tad brutal.

In the time, if they were masters before, they have time to get it again.

Perhaps lower it again from 10 -> 8?

**mGGNemesis** · Mon, 24th-Jun-2013, 3:39 PM

Bliz did say they placed a lot of players more conservatively and wont be doing it again. If they ladder legitly, they should get the promotion they deserve.

Lokth · Mon, 24th-Jun-2013, 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AxS.SouL

In the time, if they were masters before, they have time to get it again.

Perhaps lower it again from 10 -> 8?

The problem is, that more then half of those demoted wont get it back due to the requirements to be master having been increased and the amount of players that can BE masters decreased.

The 2% of the player base was also around in WoL, it was only season 1 and 2 of HOTS that it was relaxed to 7%. So there are quiet a few 'Hots Masters' that will only of been masters for these 2 seasons and wont be again (presuming of course they stay at the same skill level)

FSBenAD · Mon, 24th-Jun-2013, 3:44 PM

Hmm i wasnt aware of that fact...

So from reading the info I could find, it is 2% at start of season, but due to inactivity it will rise as the season goes on. But on new season, its back to 2%.....

Hmm that just makes it harder...

**mGGNemesis** · Mon, 24th-Jun-2013, 3:44 PM

I think if a player who is masters but plat/dia this season and ladders regularly but fails to get masters this season, then it is probs legit to let him play in PD clanwars next season?

**syfRize** · Mon, 24th-Jun-2013, 3:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mGGNemesis

I think if a player who is masters but plat/dia this season and ladders regularly but fails to get masters this season, then it is probs legit to let him play in PD clanwars next season?

Yes that still seems fair.

mGGMueX · Tue, 25th-Jun-2013, 3:33 AM

I think if it's just for clan wars with no prize money on the line then it should be up to the clan leaders to judge. There's no real reason to cheat in a friendly clan war.

aLtShortizz · Tue, 25th-Jun-2013, 9:42 AM

I have about 20 games under my belt this season, still stuck in diamond league.

How would you feel about me playing in a PD Clan war?

DeekZ · Tue, 25th-Jun-2013, 4:12 PM

Finally you guys started discussing the new Masters % on the last page lol, this is a huge factor and is easily the biggest factor that has to be decided on for all PD CWs in the near future.

Since the ladder was changed anyone who wasn't roughly 1200+ points in Master was demoted, because they lowered the amount of people that can be in Masters it's not just a simple case of "if they play, they'll get it back" because it's a lot harder now.

Essentially what has happened is that it's created a new sub-league of top Diamond players who were all Masters last season, these people are generally higher in skill than the average Diamond but below the skill of the average Master, the issue is whether these people who are stuck should be allowed to play in PD clanwars now that they are in fact legitimately Diamond players.

Even active players haven't gotten back to Masters, this includes myself, with roughly 60 games played on NA and 40 on SEA, I know someone who is a multiple time Masters player (GM on SEA) and has played nearly 200 games on NA and hasn't been promoted yet.

**mGGNemesis** · Tue, 25th-Jun-2013, 5:09 PM

Which is why I suggested we wait for a season to see how it progresses. Kinda of like a 'reset' season. There are also cases of players who after being demoted have laddered back to where they were previously.

eMp.distyL · Wed, 26th-Jun-2013, 4:13 PM

Just be vocal with each other when sorting it out between both teams.
Put your potential members forward and let there be an agreement met.

I think it should just be taken on a case by case basis as there is never going to be a black and white rule it will always be grey!

communicate to each other, its not rocket science!