Hey Sedz, I only just woke up now to see many left over messages on skype and a closed blog about me. I didn't have a chance to reply to it till now and since the blogs closed, I'm making a blog about it
First of all I'd like to congratulate you for ur awesome detective work.
SO this is what happened, one day I wake up and logged onto sea ladder noticing I went from being rank 1 by 200 points to being rank 2 I was surprised what happened. I noticed ASG ******* chobo went to rank 1 so i chcked his match history and he win traded with SeoHyun (I ASSUME that guy is whiteluxury, actually pretty sure annd not assume im like 99%) like 15 games in a row.
SO naturally I tried to search some games to get back my rank 1 but I couldn't find any games after like 10 minutes I got impatient, what I did was got my gf to log on sc2 and win traded one of my old accounts which I havent used for like 3 seasons, 2 or 3 games just to get back my rank 1.
I realised how stupid and pointless it was because the next time I logged on, I was back to rank 2 but this time by 200 points. I was so digusted, I had asgchobo on my friends account and noticed he was online at that moemnt messaged him to "stop win trading ******"
He never replied, buT I guess this is the way he replied by telling you to make a thread, lol
Lastly, I'd like to make a few points
You guys (white luxury/chobo) are ruining SEA ladder with your in game hacking and win trading, I don't know why you guys (asg perth dudes) care so much about Chobo he's the biggest scum of SEA and being associated with him makes you just as horrible as him. I feel like u guys are his worshippers and hes ur GOD or something retarded
I haven't seen Whiteluxury online in SEA and his bonus pool took him out of GM, I can only assume that his account got finally taken down by Blizzard (Thank you blizz, and sucked in moron) Pretty sure now he plays on other accounts like for eg, Seohyun. I hit him on ladder and he always plays random like a prettty clueless retard who has no idea about the game except his obvious one step ahead of everything and knows where everything is skills.
SO its funny at the end of the day, no one cares about SEA ladder. I do it because I have nothing better to do at 2am in the morning, I can't get rank 1 anymore so I stopped trying, you guys are still retards even after 2 years thats all your thread proved GG
Win trading is pretty inexcusable. If you cheat to keep up with other cheaters you're on their level.
In a game I played in the past, win trader's accounts were reset at the same time cheater's accounts were banned. That should be what happens here imo.
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Originally Posted by Bash
Double standards?
Hoping its a one-off, Chobo & co are dickbags,and as a fan i'd prefer if our "progamers" didnt sink to their level, you're better than that dude.
Also douche move by them making a blog without waiting for you to respond at all :\
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Yeah okay, I'd like to say what I did.. I didn't think it was wrong at all at the time, I wasn't thinking about that. I was just really angry and acted out of frustration, I only wanted to get 30 points and didn't want to have to grind like 15 games for it, when the guy who was rank 1(chobo) just cheated his way there.
So I'd like to apologise for my actions to you guys that care. Hopefully you can understand that all my hard work getting to where I am right now isn't the result of win trading 2 games.
PS, u could tell I couldn't care if ppl found out or anything, I never thought I was doing something wrong - If i wanted to hide it I could of just used tgun's account and made him playlike it was a real game of something, etc.
Tbh, this whole thing isn't about me win trading 2 games, it's about ASG retards and their grudge against me/ rossi / TA.
no one has mentioned the fact that Whiteluxury is smurfing on other accounts on SEA or chobo has win traded frantically his way up to rank 1 and by a mile.
I think alot of ppl misunderstand this, its just a grudge to beginw ith
EDIT: this took me ages to write, and apparently a bunch of other posts happened in that time. if anything posted after page 1 addresses questions/points made in this post, i apologise
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SeoHyun (I ASSUME that guy is whiteluxury, actually pretty sure annd not assume im like 99%)
proof? someone who knows how do the hotkey analysis thing? cause actually knowing who whiteluxury is would be pretty massive, and would also prove seohyun is hacking (and may have been hacking in previous tournaments). or is this like the time you were "100% sure he was hacking" then backed it up with things like "my ling attacked his SCV trying to make a third then he sent some units to kill the ling at his third, he's clearly hacking there."
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I hit him on ladder and he always plays random like a prettty clueless retard who has no idea about the game except his obvious one step ahead of everything and knows where everything is skills.
does 'him' refer to seohyun or whiteluxury? from the games i've played against whiteluxury it would apply to him, i haven't hit seohyun though. whiteluxury is an obvious, well known and confirmed hacker, but if you are referring to seohyun: please post replays as proof of his hacking.
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I tried to search some games to get back my rank 1 but I couldn't find any games after like 10 minutes I got impatient, what I did was got my gf to log on sc2 and win traded one of my old accounts which I havent used for like 3 seasons, 2 or 3 games just to get back my rank 1.
since you didn't apologise anywhere yet, i'm going to assume you think that's ok? TIL according to mafia it's ok to cheat if achieving your goal without cheating would take 20 minutes.
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I was so digusted, I had asgchobo on my friends account and noticed he was online at that moemnt messaged him to "stop win trading ******"
i agree with the sentiment of your message, but can you at least admit it's a little ironic coming from a guy who win traded the last push to rank 1 a day earlier?
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He never replied, buT I guess this is the way he replied by telling you to make a thread, lol
**** you. sedz/myself aren't going to do anything because chobo tells us to. if chobo wants to make a thread he can do it himself. i noticed the games on your match history (which i was looking through curious if anyone had won the $100 bounty you offered), i posted about it in AsG chat and Sedz decided to make a thread because he doesn't like you for some reason.
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You guys (white luxury/chobo) are ruining SEA ladder with your in game hacking and win trading
i agree that hacking/win trading ruins the ladder, i quit laddering for the day whenever i hit whiteluxury, and i missed out on finishing rank 1 in r2v2 once because of people win trading very frustrating. do you understand that by win trading yourself, you were (however briefly) a part of the problem?
if you have evidence that chobo is hacking please post it. seriously, if he's hacking i want to know, but i'm not going to treat someone like a hacker when i haven't seen evidence of hacking. i believe you that he's been win trading this season. he's been bragging about how seohyun's started playing again just to feed him ladder points so you can't finish rank 1 (apparently both of them don't like you for some reason), which is on the same level as your girlfriend feeding you ladder points to get rank 1, which we've already established you think is ok. (according to mafia, it's ok to cheat if it's the only way to beat someone you don't like (but possibly not ok if you do it more than he does???))
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I don't know why you guys (asg perth dudes) care so much about Chobo
i can't speak for others on this, but; he's a regular at offline SC2 events and is easy to get along with, i care about pretty much everyone who fits that description.
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he's the biggest scum of SEA and being associated with him makes you just as horrible as him.
he is? and it does? wouldn't that mean he's not the biggest scum if we're all just as horrible? :S
i get that you are exaggerating, but if you have to exaggerate to make a point it's probably a bad point.
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I feel like u guys are his worshippers and hes ur GOD or something retarded
he wishes. also, do you often have such strong feelings about groups of people you've never met?
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SO its funny at the end of the day, no one cares about SEA ladder.
i care, the main reason i play on SEA instead of another ladder is that i would rather be part of the solution (populating SEA ladder) than the problem (not playing on SEA ladder). also, apparently you care(d) enough to cheat to try to get rank 1.
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you guys are still retards even after 2 years thats all your thread proved GG
what guys? what happenned two years ago? if you're referring to Sedz, yes he's a retard, we all agree on that. but he is just one guy (and what happened 2 years ago? :S )
EDIT: this took me ages to write, and apparently a bunch of other posts happened in that time. if anything posted after page 1 addresses questions/points made in this post, i apologise
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i guess i need to learn how to play now...
i'm sorry for going off topic, but after all the times i've seen someone from TA point out "you shouldn't villify the whole clan based on the words/actions of only a few members" (that's a thing TA people have said right? i'm not the only one who remembers that?)
why are so many TA members now thinking it's ok to vilify an entire clan, or call and entire city retards, based on a blog made by a single member who thought it would be funny to troll someone?
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Originally Posted by NvRossi
anyone need a detective?
since you're offering: can you tell us if seohyun is whiteluxury please?
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Originally Posted by RuineD
Why not just try for NA GM - it's 100x more meaningful, you avoid only vsing hackers/the same people over and over? SEA GM is nothing compared to KR master or NA GM, based on "skills".
no one claimed otherwise. congratulations on winning an off topic argument against your imagination.
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Originally Posted by iM mafia
Dude, if you're gonna start something and not end it, I'm going to end it for you
can you please elaborate on what this means? is it a threat? are the mods allowing open threats now?
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Originally Posted by iM mafia
Yeah okay, I'd like to say what I did...
well said. i'd give that post upvotes if i could.
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i guess i need to learn how to play now...
proof? someone who knows how do the hotkey analysis thing? cause actually knowing who whiteluxury is would be pretty massive, and would also prove seohyun is hacking (and may have been hacking in previous tournaments). or is this like the time you were "100% sure he was hacking" then backed it up with things like "my ling attacked his SCV trying to make a third then he sent some units to kill the ling at his third, he's clearly hacking there."
does 'him' refer to seohyun or whiteluxury? from the games i've played against whiteluxury it would apply to him, i haven't hit seohyun though. whiteluxury is an obvious, well known and confirmed hacker, but if you are referring to seohyun: please post replays as proof of his hacking.
since you didn't apologise anywhere yet, i'm going to assume you think that's ok? TIL according to mafia it's ok to cheat if achieving your goal without cheating would take 20 minutes.
i agree with the sentiment of your message, but can you at least admit it's a little ironic coming from a guy who win traded the last push to rank 1 a day earlier?
**** you. sedz/myself aren't going to do anything because chobo tells us to. if chobo wants to make a thread he can do it himself. i noticed the games on your match history (which i was looking through curious if anyone had won the $100 bounty you offered), i posted about it in AsG chat and Sedz decided to make a thread because he doesn't like you for some reason.
i agree that hacking/win trading ruins the ladder, i quit laddering for the day whenever i hit whiteluxury, and i missed out on finishing rank 1 in r2v2 once because of people win trading very frustrating. do you understand that by win trading yourself, you were (however briefly) a part of the problem?
if you have evidence that chobo is hacking please post it. seriously, if he's hacking i want to know, but i'm not going to treat someone like a hacker when i haven't seen evidence of hacking. i believe you that he's been win trading this season. he's been bragging about how seohyun's started playing again just to feed him ladder points so you can't finish rank 1 (apparently both of them don't like you for some reason), which is on the same level as your girlfriend feeding you ladder points to get rank 1, which we've already established you think is ok. (according to mafia, it's ok to cheat if it's the only way to beat someone you don't like (but possibly not ok if you do it more than he does???))
i can't speak for others on this, but; he's a regular at offline SC2 events and is easy to get along with, i care about pretty much everyone who fits that description.
he is? and it does? wouldn't that mean he's not the biggest scum if we're all just as horrible? :S
i get that you are exaggerating, but if you have to exaggerate to make a point it's probably a bad point.
he wishes. also, do you often have such strong feelings about groups of people you've never met?
i care, the main reason i play on SEA instead of another ladder is that i would rather be part of the solution (populating SEA ladder) than the problem (not playing on SEA ladder). also, apparently you care(d) enough to cheat to try to get rank 1.
what guys? what happenned two years ago? if you're referring to Sedz, yes he's a retard, we all agree on that. but he is just one guy (and what happened 2 years ago? :S )
EDIT: this took me ages to write, and apparently a bunch of other posts happened in that time. if anything posted after page 1 addresses questions/points made in this post, i apologise
close to if not the most retarded post ive seen on sc2sea, ill try my best to answer most of these..
everyone knows whiteluxury is a hacker, i dont need to prove this, if its actually seohyun playing and doing this simply because he hates me. I guess he really wasn't sorry for me finding out it was him smurfing in a SEA tournament. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was actually Chobo paying Seohyun money to do this.
the only reason i win traded, was to get back my rank 1 which was originally mine from hard work which got taken away from me by seohyun and chobo through win trade.
I've already apologised for win trading 2 games to get back my rank 1.
I win traded 2 games, he win traded 15+ I admit now it was wrong, when I did it I never thought it was wrong at all.
I can understand u guys don't like us because of the past, but you need to get over shit and stop being emo. Hell even his girlfriend PM'd me apologising for u guys about the thread. She even mentioned about quitting ASG in sc2sea chat because of the shit u guys make urself look like.
There was never a problem in the first place, until Seohyun and chobo arrived and thought its a good idea to win trade.I haven't ruined the ladder like Seohyun/Chobo/Whiteluxury. I don't win trade, only reason was to get back what was originally mine through hard work. It was a mistake, AS i've already said it was a terrible idea for me and I was thinking rationally and just acted out of anger.
No it's not ok to cheat.
I can see why u guys would get along at ur perth lans, I mean ur regular offline events. but we're talking about what is happening online not offline, chobo has done alot of things online and im sure u know
How can I be exaggerating? I can't think of who's done worse, like besides Ledesma... he's lied to all of us including his gf and u guys. Tried to hide up his own shit for his ego, and gets caught. What if he didn't get caught? We would still be having a chobo tearing down master cups 2 years later.
I care about getting rank 1 on SEA ladder, I saw I was rank 2 and just instantly searched, couldn't get a game for 10+ minutes. I don't need to cheat to get to rank 1, how do you not understand that? I was already rank 1 by a mile
You guys ( as in ASG ) I'm talking about that smurfing incident
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