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syfMiley · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 12:11 AM

I'm so lonely

**syfChadMann** · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Savior.777

No. You're wrong. If Mafia was anyone lesser known in the community they would be exiled. Again, you're wrong.

What?!.. No. He's win trading against himself.. personally its not good but who gives a shit, right? its not hurting anyone.

However, Hacking and allowing someone else to play on your account for A TOURNAMENT.. Well those are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS..

Everyone needs to stop thinking what Mafia is doing is anywhere near the level of douchery that WhiteLuxury and Chobo do.

Chobo and WhiteLuxury are cheating, lying cancers of the SEA ladder. Mafia is someone that used poor judgement once. Get over it.

Also, Sedz - your blog trying to vilify TA and passive agressive stabs at Rossi are absolutely ridiculous. I know some asg guys might have a grudge. But keep it off this forum plz..

K thx..

iM SundeR · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 12:21 AM

The whole ChoBo being an official Grandmaster Manual coach purely from his smurfing, taking MONEY dishonestly from people (and thus from the other Terran coaches) is a much bigger deal than anything else, and was severely downplayed when that drama broke.

ChoBo situation goes much, much deeper than simple win-trading, never forget.

**syfSoundwave** · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by iM SundeR

The whole ChoBo being an official Grandmaster Manual coach purely from his smurfing, taking MONEY dishonestly from people (and thus from the other Terran coaches) is a much bigger deal than anything else, and was severely downplayed when that drama broke.

ChoBo situation goes much, much deeper than simple win-trading, never forget.

http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php...656#post100656

I know I'll never forget.

jayaiwhy · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:34 AM

whiteluxury is now hacking on HotS, if anyone misses him.

Sedz · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:38 AM

You realise CHobo is no longer on AsG, he just can't change his name. So I don't really care what CHobo and co do at all and I'm definitely not responsible for it.
Also as someone pointed out, you claim they ruin the ladder by win trading, yet you stoop to their level. I understand the server is dead but cheating is cheating, regardless, right?

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you guys are still retards even after 2 years thats all your thread proved GG

at least I tried to be flavoursome when it came to my jabs.

**iM tgun** · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:43 AM

BLOG ONE.

Sedz: First post was extremely condescending to: Mafia, Rossi, TA as a collective, hell -- you were just trying to incite drama with -everyone-. You could've simply settled this issue through PM's, skype, etc. very easily and very quickly. Instead, you make a very dramatic blog about a small issue..

Everyone in general (too many to name.. this is depressing, really) -- Don't fight back with insults. Report the post or ask a mod to close it, don't get personal, don't insult, etc.. you're not helping anything. You're actually making it harder to work out what the hell has happened.

BLOG TWO

Mafia: Sure, you were attacked. The thing is, the blog was closed and the issue was settled, this blog is un-necessary. Also, the first post is needlessly generalizing all Perth people. Don't create Blogs like this when the first one was closed by a Mod. :/

In general, he wouldn't be exiled for win trading on ladder. Ladder (especially on SEA) notoriously means nothing to anyone. Anyone calling it cheating is blowing it way out of proportion -- it's wrong, yes, but it's win trading, not cheating. If it was in a tournament or also affected tournament standings or something like that, sure. But it didn't, so drop it. It was definitely a mistake by him and if there is punishment to be doled out (by.. who? I don't get how we'd punish this), it'll be done by the admin / mod team.

Seriously, drop the damn issue. I'm going to be cracking down after this post on anyone doing stupid things. Use common sense, be respectful and discuss it without bias as opposed to letting it dissolve into a pointless argument.

If you disagree with any of this or want to bring something up with me, do it via PM or Skype. Not here.

iM MaFia · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedz

You realise CHobo is no longer on AsG, he just can't change his name. So I don't really care what CHobo and co do at all and I'm definitely not responsible for it.
Also as someone pointed out, you claim they ruin the ladder by win trading, yet you stoop to their level. I understand the server is dead but cheating is cheating, regardless, right?

at least I tried to be flavoursome when it came to my jabs.

U seem to not care at all about what they do, but it is of great concern of what I do, quite ironic.
Do you think anyone cares that I win traded 2 games because I wanted to get back what was mine to begin with, ( rank 1) which was undone by like 15 games of win trade by chobo, since he knew he couldn't do it any other way.

Yes I traded like 2 games to get 30 points so I could get rank 1. It's abit frustrating to have to wait 12 mins then win 2 points and to do that 15 times would take like 5 hours

I also realised it was pointless the next time I logged on just to see him win trade 200 points above me, so I've given up SEA

**iM tgun** · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:49 AM

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Originally Posted by iM mafia

Do you think anyone cares that I win traded 2 games

Yes. People do care. Regardless of context, you're still lowering yourself to their level. You're better than that. Drop it and move on.

iM MaFia · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:50 AM

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Originally Posted by iM tgun

Yes. People do care. Regardless of context, you're still lowering yourself to their level. You're better than that. Drop it and move on.

Really now? I think the only person that cares is chobo. I mean you're saying u care? thats funny

Kepler · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:51 AM

I don't really care either way, despite being part of AsG.

But you're all being a bunch of children, on both sides of this argument.

I think the most amusing thing is all of the butthurt that suddenly pops up from the TA hate train.

Can we all just shut the **** up and play video games?

Sedz · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kepler

I don't really care either way, despite being part of AsG.

You being on AsG has zero relevance to this at all.

This was never a AsG v TA thing, or a AsG v Mafia thing.

This was Mafia doing something wrong and myself bringing it to public attention.

People bringing clans and past instances up have turned this into a giant shitstorm.

**iM tgun** · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 1:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedz

with not one mention of clans or anything.

Really? You're just going to flat out lie now? :/ I agree that the clan vs clan thing turned it worse, but seriously.. you instigated it.

Sedz · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 2:03 AM

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Originally Posted by iM tgun

Really? You're just going to flat out lie now? :/ I agree that the clan vs clan thing turned it worse, but seriously.. you instigated it.

I edited my post to avoid confusion because I worded it poorly and knew it was going to be taken out of context.

iM MaFia · Fri, 28th-Dec-2012, 2:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedz

You being on AsG has zero relevance to this at all.

This was never a AsG v TA thing, or a AsG v Mafia thing.

This was Mafia doing something wrong and myself bringing it to public attention.

People bringing clans and past instances up have turned this into a giant shitstorm.

Dude, if you're gonna start something and not end it, I'm going to end it for you