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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012 4:22 PM
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So zealo pointed something out to me in our skype chat, something very suspicious and that definitely needs to be cleared up. I won't write too much, here are the pictures.

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I looked at image one and thought yeah that is pretty weird, but thought, it's entirely possible someone else was playing on Mafia's account and they happened to match each other on ladder.

And then I decided to do a bit more research and detective work, not to the extent of Detective Rossi, one can only hope to live up to his stead, many try, none do. And found out with my extensive mathematics high school knowledge that the games lasted an average of 4.5 seconds.

WORKINGS: I deduced this by adding the in-game time of 6 seconds of one game to the other which happened to be 3 seconds, and divided that time by the total number of games. So we have 9 divided by 2, which happens to be 4.5 but due to technicalities we can round up or down, so 4 or 5 seconds is acceptable, I went with 4.5 because people like hard evidence.

This means that the account xGKingMafia left the game ALMOST instantly both times, thus giving iMMafia the win and the points. Now what is interesting is that Mafia was awarded 36 and 38 points for the win, now I'm not going to pretend to know the ladder/points system, but that is a very big amount for someone ranked in the top 5 of the server, so my guess is this was done intentionally as the xGKingMafia account probably had a very high MMR still. And I once again employed my detective skills. Workings below.

WORKINGS: I checked the account history of xGKingMafia, and the last ladder game was played 24 weeks ago. Now I can go back through the seasons and double check GM rankings, but Rossi taught me inadvertently to be confident in myself, so I will say that I'm 100% positive at that time the xGKingMafia account would be in GM or have a relatively high MMR. Thus I concluded the accounts MMR would still be very high as this is the only explanantion to the iMMafia account receiving so many points for the win. This detective work makes me thirsty.

Now, I know how much this community dislikes cheaters, so we have either a case of Mafia boosting his own account with whatever motive (Perhaps he does not like CHobo being Rank 1 on SEA, but who knows) or Mafia lending his account to other people, and that person just happened to disconnect twice when facing Mafia, which could be a possibility and definitely would not be a big coincidence.

Just because some person would say this at some point in time, in fact as I write this I'm thinking in my head it would probably be from a member from a clan with the initials that are two letters. The two letters are NOT any letter in the alphabet with the exception of T and A, and I highly doubt those initials would stand for Terror Australis. Sorry, sidetracked.

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I'm certain I could delve deeper into the EULA and find more explicit rules on account sharing, but to be honest I'd rather waste my time thinking of a way to stop being a little bitch when it comes to entering the ocean or a lake in Far Cry 3.

I don't care how you say it Mafia, passively, aggressively, but I would like an explanation to this. It would be such a shame for one of the world's best players who can compete at the top of the competition (Attaining Rank 1 GM on KR is no easy feat, especially not when the ladder just opens late at night, there would be many Koreans vying for that top spot) to be found a cheater.

Thanks for reading.

Just in case you were wondering Rossi did not actually teach me how to be a good detective, it's like one of those films where the master neglects and ignores his apprentice in order to strengthen them for the real world. I believe he did a good job.

BUT WAIT

There's more. I only noticed this after publishing the blog.

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So, the last ladder game that account played 24 weeks ago was once again against iMMafia and once again, the person playing on xGKingMafia insta-left. My guess is he did this to make sure his account did not get entirely reset (have to do the 5 placement matches again) as so to keep his MMR intact.
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:48 PM BnetId: TAEdgE.100  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts: 956  # 16
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Re: iMMafia needs to do some explaining

I've given him 4 free wins before since he wanted a portrait !
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:48 PM BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts: 2,806  # 17
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Re: iMMafia needs to do some explaining

Your argument would have had merit if you didn't deface TA or Rossi.

Go away you butt hurt nerd.
Win trading is likely, who really cares if Mafia wants to be #1 on a dead server..
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:49 PM   Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney  Total Posts: 819  # 18
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No, what you did was search high an low to attack ANYONE affliated with TA or Rossi to get back at them over the Chobo shit.

Its pathetic and Tim doesnt deserve you to be attacking him over it. Your mate is a KNOWN CHEATER and yet you are still going to these kind of lengths to "get back" at the people who outed him. If this wasnt some revenge shit, why are you on about Rossi which this has NOTHING to do with.

Mods need to delete this abortion of a blog and warn Sedz to pull his head in.
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:52 PM BnetId: Malice 845  Race: Clan: XL  Location: Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia  Total Posts: 347  # 19
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SEA ladder is a joke anyway. You've got to fight fire with fire to keep that rank 1 from the hackers/wintraders.
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:52 PM BnetId: AsGSedZ  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: Perth, Aus  Total Posts: 137  # 20
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No, what you did was search high an low to attack ANYONE affliated with TA or Rossi to get back at them over the Chobo shit.

Its pathetic and Tim doesnt deserve you to be attacking him over it. Your mate is a KNOWN CHEATER and yet you are still going to these kind of lengths to "get back" at the people who outed him. If this wasnt some revenge shit, why are you on about Rossi which this has NOTHING to do with.

Mods need to delete this abortion of a blog and warn Sedz to pull his head in.
I never attacked Rossi, in fact I can count multiple times I clearly credit his hard work. I am a quiet admirer.

This whole thing might be right in your eyes, but it doesn't change the fact sharing accounts is against the blizzard EULA.
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:53 PM BnetId: iMSundeR.451  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts: 225  # 21
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Mafia tries to one-up the most notorious smurfer/hacker/win-trader on SEA.

Gets poop thrown at him by said smurfer/hacker/win-traders supporters.

Whole thing is too ironic, head hurts.
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:55 PM BnetId: Soundwave.916  Race: Clan: ETL  Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts: 1,228  # 22
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I never attacked Rossi, in fact I can count multiple times I clearly credit his hard work. I am a quiet admirer.

This whole thing might be right in your eyes, but it doesn't change the fact sharing accounts is against the blizzard EULA.
Just be quiet for your own good, man. -__-
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:55 PM BnetId: Bjornbrandr.447  Clan: TA  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts: 312  # 23
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I never attacked Rossi, in fact I can count multiple times I clearly credit his hard work. I am a quiet admirer.

This whole thing might be right in your eyes, but it doesn't change the fact sharing accounts is against the blizzard EULA.
Maybe you should complain about all the pro teams that buy a team account and let everyone use it in a tournament. Oh no! Account sharing!
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:55 PM BnetId: VBWhiplashJC.584  Race: Clan: VB  Location: Sydney  Total Posts: 253  # 24
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Win trading is pretty inexcusable. If you cheat to keep up with other cheaters you're on their level.

In a game I played in the past, win trader's accounts were reset at the same time cheater's accounts were banned. That should be what happens here imo.
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Win trading is pretty common on the sea server just to keep bonus pool down as well. Blows my mind that you could be bothered doing something like this.
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:56 PM   Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney  Total Posts: 819  # 26
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Noone said it was right, but atleast Zepph cleared it up immediately instead of lieing over and over like Chobo did.

Now you have your answer, so **** off back to wherever you came from. This community doesnt need people like you who only come here to cause shit and stir the pot. People like you add nothing to a scene but a massive stink. MaFia may have made a mistake, but this witch hunt you have tried to start is pathetic.
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:56 PM BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts: 2,806  # 27
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Mafia tries to one-up the most notorious smurfer/hacker/win-trader on SEA.

Gets poop thrown at him by said smurfer/hacker/win-traders supporters.

Whole thing is too ironic, head hurts.
I love you sunder. I think we should change the topic of this blog (for all our sanity!) To Mafia has some explaining to do as to why he doesn't have a sunder mustache!?
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:57 PM BnetId: iMSundeR.451  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts: 225  # 28
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I love you sunder. I think we should change the topic of this blog (for all our sanity!) To Mafia has some explaining to do as to why he doesn't have a sunder mustache!?
I think a simple photoshop will convince him..
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New Thu, 27th-Dec-2012, 4:58 PM BnetId: bLake.xxx  Race: Clan: VB/MirG  Location: Sydney  Total Posts: 752  # 29
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Think of it as he is just transferring the points he earned on his old account to his new account in order to save a name change
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Win trading is pretty inexcusable. If you cheat to keep up with other cheaters you're on their level.

In a game I played in the past, win trader's accounts were reset at the same time cheater's accounts were banned. That should be what happens here imo.
This. Cheating is cheating no matter how you look at it.

I'm not saying Mafia should be punished, I just want to know why he felt the need to win trade in order to keep up with cheaters, thus bringing him down to their level and becoming everything he has openly despised.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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