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**Dingobloo** · Mon, 29th-Oct-2012, 8:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RuineD

I don't think it's to do with money, I think it's to do with the interface and how the game is viewed. SC2 elitists view the game as the most skillbased game around at the moment, but skillbased doesn't necessary bring in fans. Being Grandmaster isn't going to matter too much to a player who plays SC2 3 times a week to play monobattles or Cannon Defense (if it existed in SC2 that is). Being Grandmaster to a player who plays 10 games of 1v1 a day, however, is much more appealing. Blizzard has accentuated this, that when you play SC2 your ultimate goal should be to get better at the game and get ranked highly, rather than to have fun.

If they've already got to the point where they can use the custom map interface however poor it may be, they've already purchased the game, it might retain more people to have a better custom system but it's not going to push the number of people up to 70 million, from 5 million. half of which don't even touch the multiplayer side.

The money is just one more thing in the way of getting your friends, and your friends friends, and your friends friends friends from trying something, the reputation as a really complicated hardcore game might hurt it, but none of the people I know are even getting to the point where they can make that decision for themselves.

UHF · Tue, 30th-Oct-2012, 12:13 AM

I still enjoy the gameplay at it's core, but I don't really find the act of logging in and playing as fun as I used to. I have a lackluster experience for almost everything other than the actually gameplay itself - and sometimes the gameplay alone isn't enough (otherwise i'd still be playing AoE2 or Total Annihilation). I still enjoy spectating the game, reading about the game and I follow the scene closely. However as a game I want to play on a day-to-day basis, it's not ranked very highly.

Obviously there are many planned features already announced for HotS, and they will probably alleviate some of the struggles I have with the game, but I still want more. I don't want to settle for an okay expansion - I want HotS to rediculously good, and I know Blizzard can achieve that. I want SC2 to be in a much better position than it is now, both in the game and out of game. Was causing a commotion the right thing to do? Who knows? The community has already settled down though and we have a measurable result - a slew of information that we didn't have before and some sort of direction.

I hope we grow to greater heights and continue upwards until Legacy. I'll keep my bets away for now until I see something that I know will achieve that.

PS. This sounds fairly over-dramatic (maybe it is), but it's hard to avoid.

**nGenLight** · Tue, 30th-Oct-2012, 4:29 AM

We (E-Sports) started with Chess and Tetris, we exploded with RTS and FPS, we are heading into a world of MOBAs. I don't see a problem. Times change, and better games(in terms of commercial success) are created to push competitors to create better games, and also to pave way for future games. RTS was monumental in developing E-Sports, and now it takes a step back to the more casually assessible MOBAs, so what?

There will always be a place for RTS, just like there will always be a place for Tetris and Chess. New Tetris games and Chess interfaces are always being created to attract fans of these classic games, StarCraft and it's predecessors will continue to develop for RTS fans, as it is THE RTS GAME. Therefore saying it is going to "die" is pretty ridiculous. So is trying to attract people to play Nexus Wars in an RTS game interface when they would rather play a MOBA.

Much like Chess isn't for everyone. RTS isn't for everybody, but RTS players will always garner the respect and appreciation of the E-Sports community because it will always be the genre that sits atop the E-Sports pyramid of "Skill Level". The difference between an age old game like Chess and StarCraft II is that one is an absolute bore to watch while the other is arguably the most entertaining spectator game to date.

Regardless all this is just pushing E-Sports further and further. Destiny may have made an impact by creating a sense of urgency in Blizzard with the Sky-is-falling-thread. But seriously dude and his followers needs to chill out - StarCraft and strategy games ain't going anywhere.

**PiG** · Tue, 30th-Oct-2012, 5:29 AM

I'm absolutely loving the responses you guys have given me thanks so much for the well-thought out responses! I think the reason I've been so upset during this whole thing is there's been this massive thing going around the community and nowhere to have a reasonable discussion just people flinging monkey-turd at each other (and mainly at blizzard).

I think I kind-of agree with everyone that's posted here, Blizzard can do a much better job! Destiny needs to chill out, yet his acts have probably had some good results, the game isn't very user-friendly at all! Competitively it's OK and we're hoping it'll really improve!

Thanks for all clearly putting time and effort into your responses it's this sort of discussion and honest opinion in the SC2 scene that makes me so happy to be a part of this

JoFritzMD · Sat, 10th-Nov-2012, 4:33 AM

PiG, I love you more than a man should.