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Shieldz · Fri, 27th-Jul-2012, 5:08 PM

amazing blog!

**nGenLight** · Sat, 28th-Jul-2012, 6:05 AM

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Losing to Light put a small dent in my confidence but I focused on taking it in my stride and saying, Ok. I just lost a game, it happens. This is SCII, you can't always win. More GG more Skill. You have to lose to learn. All that good stuff!

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P.S. I've been steadily editing the blog to make myself clearer but with such a long pair of blogs it takes a lot of time so just got around to explaining why I didn't think Light was a threat going into our first series: he has busy non-sc2 life

Losing to Pig made me really mad because I didn't think I'd drop a game to someone busy developing E-Sports in Australia. I really don't care if you considered me a threat or not, no need the sugar-coat, just say it how it is.

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oh haha lol it was glade that died to the immortal timing. Lol I must have blocked out the memory of that 4 gate rape!

I'm a bit confused though. I get not whining about losses but this is a blog meant to give my view of the experience of the event. A lot of those experiences are in the games. I view losing as involving making mistakes and am talking about them to give detail to the games and show how I view the errors I make.

I'm a bit confused as how you can forget how you lost a game when the above paragraph indicates how serious you take losing and making mistakes, and communicating about them in your blog.

Don't get me wrong, you are all class, you do wonderful things for the community, and I'm proud of you being one of the finest representatives of SEA, but the excuses are getting really old and, more importantly, unnecessary. So is the fact that you try to sound mannered by sugar-coating what you say, but what you are often seen saying is pretty much "I should have never lost to xxx/some nobody because [insert excuse here]". Just say you are the best - judging by the most recent results, there wouldn't be a strong case against that.

You don't get to have an ego and be Mr. Good guy at the same time.

The blog was really awesome though, I enjoyed reading it at work.

**PiG** · Sat, 28th-Jul-2012, 9:29 AM

I think that's an interesting way to interpret the way I worded my explanations. I really don't think it was me saying I should have never lost. It was saying I lost because of this and this. Is that every single facet of why I lost? No, but it's some of the key mistakes I made. It's a personal recount and unless I get a consensus from the community that they are offended by this personally-focused way of writing my blogs then I won't be changing it. It's a shame you feel that I'm giving excuses or de-valuing my opponents but that's in no way my intention. I think the fact that I said I didn't think you were a threat at the time has put you on the wrong foot here. My intention in writing that was to show how silly that assumption was considering I was quickly 2-0'd by you.

**inFeZa** · Sat, 28th-Jul-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by iaguz

True, but when you lose to a 4-gate there's probably a bit of leeway with being upset. Even if he forgot it was a 4gate.

NO LEEWAY EVER

Pandan · Sat, 28th-Jul-2012, 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PiG

I think that's an interesting way to interpret the way I worded my explanations. I really don't think it was me saying I should have never lost. It was saying I lost because of this and this. Is that every single facet of why I lost? No, but it's some of the key mistakes I made. It's a personal recount and unless I get a consensus from the community that they are offended by this personally-focused way of writing my blogs then I won't be changing it. It's a shame you feel that I'm giving excuses or de-valuing my opponents but that's in no way my intention. I think the fact that I said I didn't think you were a threat at the time has put you on the wrong foot here. My intention in writing that was to show how silly that assumption was considering I was quickly 2-0'd by you.

I mean no offense from the following; trying to convey my thoughts/feelings on this matter.

As someone who is 3rd party to this blog (not mentioned/involved) - I must say this is how you appear to me quite often.

I am almost always seeing some sort of excuse or devaluing of opponents almost every time you speak. I watched System's show last week (which had you, Dox and Maynarde on it I think?) and not only did you insult every opponent you played in the (IEM?) tournament just prior, when you lost you made excuses that you were either tired/distracted - or simply called them bad and a 'mystery' loss.

When I listen to people like Rossi or Moonglade speak in interviews, I don't think I've ever heard them speak so maliciously of their opponent (unless it was me! :P).

I think this is the point that Light is trying to get across, and frankly, I do agree with it to some extent.

Disclaimer: I do speak in hyperbole sometimes to get a point across, so in this case - it may be that Rossi or Moonglade have spoken like that in the past; but they generally do not.

**nGenLight** · Sat, 28th-Jul-2012, 1:53 PM

Maybe your intentions are very different from what some of us might be perceiving.

Don't change the way you, noone is asking you to, only Benji is allowed to get that kind of insulting request from the community. There's no need, and impossible to please everyone. Just like you felt like it is absolutely okay to speak out about behaviours of others you don't agree with, you shouldn't expect anything less to come at you either.

People like Rossi and Glade get pretty mad after they lose, but they never say a word, that is respect for their opponent. Frankly every time you ever lose to someone, were going to hear about it in some form or another. Sure, analysing the game afterwards will help you learn, but is there a need to let the whole world know? You do a service to your fans, but you piss off your opponents. You can't please everybody. Either be a Stephano or a community pleaser, you can't do both.

I'm not generally speaking about this blog, you give your opponents huge props this blog, kudos. Sorry for derailing.

SFTAElessar · Sat, 28th-Jul-2012, 2:17 PM

Well done Pig, always an honour to play against you! (and lose)

**PiG** · Sat, 28th-Jul-2012, 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by iM Light

Maybe your intentions are very different from what some of us might be perceiving.

Don't change the way you, noone is asking you to, only Benji is allowed to get that kind of insulting request from the community. There's no need, and impossible to please everyone. Just like you felt like it is absolutely okay to speak out about behaviours of others you don't agree with, you shouldn't expect anything less to come at you either.

People like Rossi and Glade get pretty mad after they lose, but they never say a word, that is respect for their opponent. Frankly every time you ever lose to someone, were going to hear about it in some form or another. Sure, analysing the game afterwards will help you learn, but is there a need to let the whole world know? You do a service to your fans, but you piss off your opponents. You can't please everybody. Either be a Stephano or a community pleaser, you can't do both.

I'm not generally speaking about this blog, you give your opponents huge props this blog, kudos. Sorry for derailing.

Yeah man whilst I'm annoyed that im being interpreted that way I appreciate the feedback. I'd rather people tell me when I come off in a certain way then just get silently insulted.