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**nirvAnA** · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 4:20 PM

its not just SEA this is PvP on every server

ToRDeathsFang · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 4:54 PM

Keep having fun with that

xGKingdelete · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 5:25 PM

pretty much what nirvana said. learn the proper responses and just get ahead when their cheese fails. if you know someone's a particular cheesy player, scout earlier and send a probe to chase theirs as soon as it enters your base.
tbh i like early-midgame PvP better than the lategame anyway.

NvPinder · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 5:32 PM

Calling your all-ins timing attacks doesn't make you somehow better than the people doing allins to you dude. And yeah high level pvp is 1basing your heart out, and usually someone gets a significant enough advantage from the openers that you have to severely out play your opponent to win if you get the worst of it.

EveVendetta · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 6:22 PM

Yeah I agree with pinder on one base PvPs, if i recall correctly him and I had some nice PvP games before.

And anyway, going 3 gate robo doesn't make one a more skilled player than people who go 4G / 2G 3 stalker rush. It's each individual's preference. If you're so sure that you're gonna get cheesed half the time just stick to a standard build that beats it and you'll be fine.

Anyway, you seem to have won all the 3 games of cheese so I'm not sure why you don't feel like playing anymore ??

ProAnnn · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 7:12 PM

Biggest problem is that 2 gate proxy requires me to scout the proxy locations which could be EVERYWHERE, i have no problem with cheese now and then, 4 gate now and then, 3 gate robo now and then but i hate it where EVERY single games is proxy 2 gate OR cannon rush. I cant even practice my own 3 gate robo since i scout proxy 2 gate every single game

xGKingdelete · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 7:19 PM

haha just remembered

the other day i vsed a guy on shakuras. i scouted after gateway and saw his probe coming from one side, so i changed my scout direction and went straight to his base. saw nothing. as his probe comes into my base i panic and box all probes a click. he gets 2 pylons up, loses the probe. cancels. i've got my cyber core 50% done, and he hasn't started gateway.

so i follow through with the logical response and 4gate him with a proxy pylon, oddly enough, there's still nothing in his base when i get there, except a cannon in the mineral line.

and then 5 zealots come into my mineral line from FOUR proxy gateways and i try to pull probes to fight with the couple of zealots i warp in, but my internet chooses the best time to give me 1 second delay

and in the end i lost and it was saddening

**inFeZa** · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 8:48 PM

Yeah - Light did that 4 pylon cannon rush to me on shakuras. now when i see that map i carefully watch out for a probe entering my base, if they get those 4 up, it's GG you can't do anything

EveVendetta · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 9:24 PM

Light did that to me too, I didn't manage to prevent his probe from getting those 4 pylons up, but after that I pulled all my probes and chrono-ed out a zealot, managed to kill the cannons off after they were up for like 2 secs.
You should try that next time, pull off all your probes and make sure you have maximum surface area to hit each pylon and it should be fine

Ruscour · Tue, 29th-Nov-2011, 9:58 PM

go play on KR...yeah that's kinda the state of PvP, cheese/1 base all-ins/colossus wars, none of which are very fun. I actually miss 4gate vs 4gate, such good micro practice

lucky this is SEA where there's nothing but zergs :P

TCPKiaSu · Wed, 30th-Nov-2011, 10:15 AM

god I hate PVP so much! >_< I defended 4gate with FE and 2 gates before against plat tho ^^

wTlzq · Wed, 30th-Nov-2011, 12:37 PM

the player whose name starts with M, ends with a "n" right?

D

ProAnnn · Wed, 30th-Nov-2011, 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lzq

the player whose name starts with M, ends with a "n" right?

D

YEAH!
10 char

**nirvAnA** · Wed, 30th-Nov-2011, 4:48 PM

Name him!!!!! Im curious! Mystogan? Haven't ran into him before.

For me I openly admit I proxy PvP all my games vs unknowns and feel no shame anyway cause its just a silly cheesy matchup and I have just created an extremely powerful variant of the double proxy gate which is really fun to play haha!!!

aLtShortizz · Wed, 30th-Nov-2011, 6:14 PM

Cheese is fun yo, i do it to Bryan all the time.

But serriously, have u tried playing ZvZ? Haha