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iMMafia needs to do some explaining
 

So zealo pointed something out to me in our skype chat, something very suspicious and that definitely needs to be cleared up. I won't write too much, here are the pictures.




I looked at image one and thought yeah that is pretty weird, but thought, it's entirely possible someone else was playing on Mafia's account and they happened to match each other on ladder.

And then I decided to do a bit more research and detective work, not to the extent of Detective Rossi, one can only hope to live up to his stead, many try, none do. And found out with my extensive mathematics high school knowledge that the games lasted an average of 4.5 seconds.

WORKINGS: I deduced this by adding the in-game time of 6 seconds of one game to the other which happened to be 3 seconds, and divided that time by the total number of games. So we have 9 divided by 2, which happens to be 4.5 but due to technicalities we can round up or down, so 4 or 5 seconds is acceptable, I went with 4.5 because people like hard evidence.

This means that the account xGKingMafia left the game ALMOST instantly both times, thus giving iMMafia the win and the points. Now what is interesting is that Mafia was awarded 36 and 38 points for the win, now I'm not going to pretend to know the ladder/points system, but that is a very big amount for someone ranked in the top 5 of the server, so my guess is this was done intentionally as the xGKingMafia account probably had a very high MMR still. And I once again employed my detective skills. Workings below.

WORKINGS: I checked the account history of xGKingMafia, and the last ladder game was played 24 weeks ago. Now I can go back through the seasons and double check GM rankings, but Rossi taught me inadvertently to be confident in myself, so I will say that I'm 100% positive at that time the xGKingMafia account would be in GM or have a relatively high MMR. Thus I concluded the accounts MMR would still be very high as this is the only explanantion to the iMMafia account receiving so many points for the win. This detective work makes me thirsty.

Now, I know how much this community dislikes cheaters, so we have either a case of Mafia boosting his own account with whatever motive (Perhaps he does not like CHobo being Rank 1 on SEA, but who knows) or Mafia lending his account to other people, and that person just happened to disconnect twice when facing Mafia, which could be a possibility and definitely would not be a big coincidence.

Just because some person would say this at some point in time, in fact as I write this I'm thinking in my head it would probably be from a member from a clan with the initials that are two letters. The two letters are NOT any letter in the alphabet with the exception of T and A, and I highly doubt those initials would stand for Terror Australis. Sorry, sidetracked.



I'm certain I could delve deeper into the EULA and find more explicit rules on account sharing, but to be honest I'd rather waste my time thinking of a way to stop being a little bitch when it comes to entering the ocean or a lake in Far Cry 3.

I don't care how you say it Mafia, passively, aggressively, but I would like an explanation to this. It would be such a shame for one of the world's best players who can compete at the top of the competition (Attaining Rank 1 GM on KR is no easy feat, especially not when the ladder just opens late at night, there would be many Koreans vying for that top spot) to be found a cheater.

Thanks for reading.

Just in case you were wondering Rossi did not actually teach me how to be a good detective, it's like one of those films where the master neglects and ignores his apprentice in order to strengthen them for the real world. I believe he did a good job.

BUT WAIT

There's more. I only noticed this after publishing the blog.



So, the last ladder game that account played 24 weeks ago was once again against iMMafia and once again, the person playing on xGKingMafia insta-left. My guess is he did this to make sure his account did not get entirely reset (have to do the 5 placement matches again) as so to keep his MMR intact.

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Although the case may be true or false, I hope this issue works out soon.

Edit: Do try to refrain from plugging in names of non-related victims :P

2nd Edit: You should personally settle this with Mafia himself through Private Message. There is no need to broadcast this worldwide.

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As fair as your point may be, I don't see the need for something like this? Why would someone want to boost points like this on SEA server, due to its lack of numbers its completely feasible that he could meet the 2 accounts. Regardless, you wouldnt be able to do something like this on any other server, player numbers are way too high.

Also, I dont see how this is cheating, you have to get both accounts up to that level and I can vouch that both of those accounts belong to Mafia.

I will admit im interested as to why though, but maybe a PM to him would have sufficed?

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looks fine to me. i think he is searchig with both account at the same time since it takes too long for him to get an opponent and happens to match with each other

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I guess he owes himself $100 then.

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Whilst I'm not going to comment on the actual driving question behind this blog, I will say that there is far too much fluff in this blog that is intended to be a personal attack against people such as Rossi and members of TA in general.
If you have a genuine concern about whatever has occurred, it would be wise to state the case and wait for a response rather than going on a tirade and attempting to demean those who aren't actually involved in the issue.

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Actually **** I went back and read the thread, you got a problem bud?

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Lol somone holds a fatty grudge it seems.

1 - People share accounts all the time, He could have lent it to any number of people, none of which is your business
2 - Cheating to gain points on SEA ladder? Only chobos do that mate
3 - Why is this a thread, PM him and ask him if you care so much, don't try and smear his name because of your own personal shit. It really is pathetic you have gone to this much length over something which no doubt has a reasonable explanation, for all you know someone hacked his account and you are going around saying he is cheating.

Mods should close this thread, it doesnt add anything to the community.

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Pretty sure yongming got this one figured out. Why would mafia try to boost his account when SEA server is so easy he could just get rank1 anyway. But I guess some asg guys got a grudge after the whole chobo thing.

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I was on his account. There are a couple of people win trading to take rank 1 (seohyeon and chobo I think) and he was annoyed since the rate at which they get points is one that he can't compete with playing normal games given that SEA queue times are 10+ minutes (if he's lucky) and that a win is a very small amount of points. Therefore, I offered to give him a couple of wins on one of his alt accounts so he could take it back.

He quickly gave up on the idea of rank 1 though since next time he checked they were something like 70 points ahead - too much effort to try and take back rank 1 by whatever means.

In future instead of making some long winded blog trying to publicly shame someone over 2 wins you could take it up in private if it really means ever so much to you. Stop trying to make a good guy look like a cheating scumbag.

TL;DR: I used his account and gave him 2 wins. Get over it.

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I can see how searching on both accounts would be fine. But using common sense we can assume that if it takes you 1 hour to get a game at whatever time you're searching, searching with an account that you own at the same time with a similar MMR will only increase your chances of matching yourself, thus boosting his points.

EDIT: Thanks Zepph for coming clean. How can we be sure this won't continue or hasn't happened previously? Which it clearly has.

Also there's no grudge. I'm just trying to keep this community cheater free and investigate any abnormal occurences!

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I agree this is a silly blog, but there's no reason to accuse Sedz or anyone in AsG of holding a grudge. Don't be stupid.

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No seriously come on out, you got a problem come out and say it.
I don't know why the **** you would want to make a thread about this instead of pming him

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Whilst I understand what you're saying and agree with it in a sense, I do think that it's pathetic how Sedz worded his OP. Whilst half of it was about Mafia, the other half was attacking Rossi for no reason other than to get in some personal jabs.
If, however, the whole OP was simply a "Hey Mafia sup, noticed this on your account and it's a bit odd - what was it?", then I don't think you could claim a grudge.

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This isn't a thread, it's a blog. I'm using it to publicly voice my opinions and thoughts.

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I will be back later tonight to check on this blog (unless someone else does it before me). Take care when posting.

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I've given him 4 free wins before since he wanted a portrait !

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Your argument would have had merit if you didn't deface TA or Rossi.

Go away you butt hurt nerd.
Win trading is likely, who really cares if Mafia wants to be #1 on a dead server..

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No, what you did was search high an low to attack ANYONE affliated with TA or Rossi to get back at them over the Chobo shit.

Its pathetic and Tim doesnt deserve you to be attacking him over it. Your mate is a KNOWN CHEATER and yet you are still going to these kind of lengths to "get back" at the people who outed him. If this wasnt some revenge shit, why are you on about Rossi which this has NOTHING to do with.

Mods need to delete this abortion of a blog and warn Sedz to pull his head in.

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SEA ladder is a joke anyway. You've got to fight fire with fire to keep that rank 1 from the hackers/wintraders.

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I never attacked Rossi, in fact I can count multiple times I clearly credit his hard work. I am a quiet admirer.

This whole thing might be right in your eyes, but it doesn't change the fact sharing accounts is against the blizzard EULA.

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Mafia tries to one-up the most notorious smurfer/hacker/win-trader on SEA.

Gets poop thrown at him by said smurfer/hacker/win-traders supporters.

Whole thing is too ironic, head hurts.

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Just be quiet for your own good, man. -__-

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Maybe you should complain about all the pro teams that buy a team account and let everyone use it in a tournament. Oh no! Account sharing!

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Win trading is pretty inexcusable. If you cheat to keep up with other cheaters you're on their level.

In a game I played in the past, win trader's accounts were reset at the same time cheater's accounts were banned. That should be what happens here imo.

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Win trading is pretty common on the sea server just to keep bonus pool down as well. Blows my mind that you could be bothered doing something like this.