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ROFL!!!
 

idc what anyone thinks of me!!!!!

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"i get home schooled by my parents who are doctors and my dad coaches me though pain. So i concentrate on the game and not on pain he is inflicting"

What the ****? What kind of pain is he inflicting on you?

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his dad was the previous sponsor of cityhunter events great man

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I'm pretty sure you 3 pylon blocked me on ladder. If you wanna be pro don't do shit like that, lol.

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I don't know what "and have between some big names " means. But tbh, you can't just turn pro. You do so by putting your spare/free time into the game while you focus on life/studies, sure some great players might say that they went all or nothing to be good. But in the end of the day, if you play for a few years and have no school achievements or even certs in different fields, employers will look at you and go, yeah nah mate.

Focus on school and in your spare time put your heart into the game, and DO NOT QUIT A JOB OR STUDIES TO TURN PRO unless you seriously play every hour of your spare time but you just need those extra hours that you are using for study/work.

Hopefully that helps.

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yeh 100% with neKo. You can get to the point that you compete with pros whilst doing school/uni. If you get to the point that you are placing top 6 or so consistently in tournaments then it might be worth taking 6 months off uni/work to play full time. But unless you get to that point i think your just hurting yourself. The industry is absolutely brutal and there are no runner ups

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yeah it does thanks dude btw it was "beaten some big names"

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Oh... he pinches me and like distracts me and stuff, nothing like life threatening or molesting :P

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Thanks EveSigns just got ur reply through now :P I will defs keep what you and neko said in mind and will probe change the way i approach this thanks heaps guys

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And Soundwave... it is alright to cheese sometimes

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well we have a gm terran player "TCPTheGoTo" so maybe u can come along with us and have practice with him?

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Education comes first.

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Sounds good Kiasu

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yeah haha thanks battle toaster :P

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try get na gm or kr masters first

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It's not that it's cheese, being pro means playing in tournaments, and you will never be able to 3 pylon block someone in a tournament. Thus, doing it for free ladder points is a complete and utter waste of time.

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pretty sure you are a ******* **** you tell me what race you are not when playing random you are a general ****, you are low gm on SEA dont flatter yourself. also i have never ever seen you play macro

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Stay in school man, you need it!

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Might want to edit the OP and be more clear about this whole Dad and Pain thing. I'm sure I wasn't the only one that had chills down my spine. It does not look very favorable to your Dad at the moment.

It is your life so you can do whatever you want. Although professional gaming isn't really that viable a career in Australia, people before you like mG, PiG and even the younger guys like Ninja are trying to make one of it, so yeah, no reason not to start early.

What I am afraid of is that, you are too young to really be making such a huge life-changing decision. You don't have the experience, the knowledge to know the options you are giving up and what you are getting into.

Professional gaming is not just "Fun & Games". There are many huge issues revolving around it, especially in Australia. To even garner the level of success Pig has achieved is ridiculously hard, to achieve beyond that, were talking about a very enticing salary, major sponsorship, you gotta be really good at the game and really good at marketing, or hire people who can market for you. Even if you are successful, the career length of a professional gamer is very limited, because once you reach a certain age, the younger generation will start beating out and you will struggle to keep whatever job you have, and then, what do you have left going for you? These are all things that are so intricate and important that you probably never put much thought into when you are thinking about being a Pro-gamer, well that's probably because you are freaking young and have no responsibilities.

As said by someone else before, stay in school, get a degree, do something which will open up your options in the future. If you all-in in something like pro-gaming right now, it's just a high risk low reward gamble that should never be taken by anyone level-headed. Maybe you might want to do something else in the future, experience what the world has to offer first and make up your mind when you are more in a position not to jeopardize your entire life. Also, playing SCII casually gets you pretty good too, if you can't become one of the top end players in SEA without spending all your time on SCII, you probably aren't talented enough for what you are aiming for, anyway.

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The way I see it is-

if you love it & have passion for it, then pursue it.

IMO don't worry about labeling it a career or not. Echoing many that have replied, just make sure you don't drop the other parts of your life (school, family) while you pursue SC2, and keep moving forward from where you are.

The route you take in the future could change as you're still young, but currently it's obvious you feel strongly for SC2. So go for it till you hit the next crossroad.

If you love it, it's the right decision.

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you called me a *** for no reason. I wish you no sucess in esports.

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Oh boy, so much to say and I don't know where to begin. It's late so I'm sorry if I start rambling endlessly in some places. These are just my main thoughts, and there are more aspects to consider than just the following.

So you want to become a pro-gamer; you're getting support from your parents; and you have a decent amount of skill, even if you're not nearly one of the best in SEA. That's fine, but what's not fine is the way you're approaching this - like it's an opportunity.

Becoming a pro-gamer is not an opportunity, it's a gamble, and you're given few chances to actually become a known pro-gamer, after which you would get signed into a team and get paid. It's not as easy as saying "I'm going to become a pro-gamer" and then following along with that goal, and while I'm not a pro myself, I'll try and express my feelings on becoming a pro-gamer, even though if I had kept to my practising routine, I might already have been mid/top GM on NA by now (I pretty much quit ladder a few months ago).

As I said - it's a gamble, but what does this mean? Am I literally going out and putting my money on numbers? Almost. You're putting your money - or, to be more precise - skill; in a single moment dedicated solely to grow your fan base. How do you reach this moment? That too is a gamble.

Firstly, I am going to assume you get paid, and are free to go to any non-league (i.e GSL) tournament you want to go into, whether it be Dreamhack, LANs, or others. So you go into one of these tournaments and there's a few high-name players in them.
Now what usually happens is; People have an ambition, a goal to beat someone - I know mine (when I started getting into SC2) was to beat TLO and therefore become greater than him, thus I rolled Terran (now play Zerg). Say that the player you wanted to beat was listed as one of the players in the tournament. From here, you've begun the three major gambles, which I'll list.

1.) You're gambling that while you progress through the tournament ladder, no player you verse is better than you, nor that they try some never before seen strategy which you are unprepared for and will thus lose the game.

2.) You're gambling that the player you aspire to overcome does not lost to some other player, and that you two are preferably both at opposite ends of the ladder as to increase the level of recognition you get by not only beating the player, but by winning the tournament.

3.) You're gambling that you actually beat the player.

#3 is the most important one; it's not enough to just beat the player, you have to destroy him by doing something which the Starcraft community hasn't seen before, such as a different unit composition or different tactics like Baneling mines. Once you do something different than to standard against the player you dreamt to beat, you start to get anxious, and you have to overcome this. Sometimes the adrenaline you get is beneficial and gets you more pumped and focused.

If you do beat him by what I've said in the last paragraph, you'll earn yourself about 24 hours of immense internet fame, as well as a TeamLiquid post with your build and name on it. But it doesn't stop there, you have to continue to power through more top tier players doing as well as you did against that player, if not better. Under the circumstance that you do not continue being 'amazing', you have lost the gamble, teams will perceive you as 'just another lucky player', and you will soon be back to square one - a no name. If you continue being 'amazing', your fan-base grows to the point where even if you slump, you won't be forgotten from the community.
Basically, to become a pro-gamer, you're talking about the stars practically aligning for you. You have an extremely low chance to actually be signed for a top paying team such as EG so that you can even consider SC2 as a profitable game. This is why I really view well known players such as IdrA and Stephano as 'gifted' in the sense of luck.

So why are there so little chances? Can't I just try again endlessly? No. As time flows, your chances diminish rapidly, to the point where if you now do something amazing, you won't get recognized, as possibly all of the strategies are being fully utilized and uncovered. This chance 'resets' mostly come a new expansion, such as HoTS, in which you can try again.
Because of this, stick to school, play SC2 but only think of it as serious fun game (i.e don't treat it as just a game, but don't treat it as your life). Becoming a pro is not like getting a career, where as long as you acquire skill you can get the said career.


This is a bit of a ramble, but I want to give an example, so I'm going to refer to my good friend Tazerenix as my subject for this section. Tazerenix is extremely smart and knowledgeable, easily the top student at my highschool, and that's saying something. However he's not only great at school, but also SC2, taking down Edge and Satu along with many others doing obscure strategies which they maybe had not seen before. He was able to go far in a recent tourney despite not having played anything but custom games for the last couple of months only to be knocked out by Satu. He could, very easily, given lifestyle opportunities, be one of the best players in SC, at least in my opinion. However if he decided to go pro, and he missed the gamble, all his work would be worthless. Being as smart as he is, it would be a waste if that happened, as, to going pro, he'd most likely already sacrificed his education as well as possible amazing career opportunities.

Sorry for the long post ._.

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santi, u cheated in our game together, haha spook why would i give away my advantage of being random??
Light ur a total legend thank you so much for ur time writing that and u too Raven Thank you for ur time It really really helps me Coz now i have a lot to think about, as pro gaming is defs not what i thought it was. :P

Now, let me get this clear: My dad doesn't inflict pain that hurts a lot it is more of a distraction so i can learn to focus on the game and not on his distractions and guess what: IT WORKS!!!!!

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you are pretty weird. In game you lie about what race you play, cheese, bm and here you're just a suckup

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But it's fun .____.

I support your choice, after all its not my life to comment and you should do what you want.

Just remember you'll miss some aspects of life by doing this but at the same time experience things that other people can't.

Good luck!