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Dox	Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 11:16 AM

BETA: Replay Uploading Script

Back during the Wings of Liberty Beta, I advertised that I was looking for staff to help maintain a site I was putting together - http://www.SEA-Play.com, which was going to be a replay website focused around players in the SEA Community. The mission was simple: a user-driven replay hub of which staff/moderators could highlight the best games and showcase tournaments. Unfortunately, I only got a few nibbles from the community - most of which were inexperienced kids looking for opportunities to make a name for themselves.

And thus, due to travelling interstate for work for more than 2 weeks of each month over the course of 2010, SEA-Play was abandoned and I've since maintained the domain/server for nothing more than personal file storage.

Fortunately, with IPL4 Australia, WCG and TtCC wrapping up, I've bought myself a slight breather to "finish" this project off before things get crazy in about 2 weeks with ACL, Dox Cup #2 and so forth.

So I'm gonna try my best to complete the project - and bring it over to SC2SEA. As many people have recently suggested, one of the only limitations of SC2SEA is the Replay/File Management plugin. It's ugly, limited and doesn't offer much information.

What I need from the community, is for you guys to Beta test my Replay Parser and let me know what features you think it should contain.

Currently the raw script can be found here - and is available for testing:
http://sea-play.com/parser/upload_file.php

Ignore the DEBUG and TEST buttons - they're just for me.

Please try uploading various different replays and types of games and let me know your results. I need MASS data and MASS feedback to really drive this forward, so please - don't just upload a replay, think to yourself, "Cool", and close the tab. Let me know what you like. What you don't like. What you think is missing. What you think is unnecessary.

HOWEVER.

Please don't offer cosmetic suggestions! This is the RAW script, and definitely not the intended final design. When it is implemented, it'll be much prettier. Here's a sneak peak at what I have in mind:

+ [Show Huge Screenshot] +

A few final comments:

I'll be implementing "League" functionality at some point, so you can specify which league each player is in.
I'll be implementing an "events" dropdown also, so you can publish whether the game belongs to MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, etc.
Ignore the events list, it'll be hidden on release.
I'm looking for feedback on the build order log. How detailed do you think it should be? Should I cap it at 6 minutes or so? Let me know.

That's all for now, and thanks in advance for your help!

EDIT: Results should look something like this for now.

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SQLTt.yang

Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 11:32 AM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

It seems to be great! Is there a way you can add a filter to the event list? Maybe let the user change how much they want to see or if they don't want to see anything in particular?

Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 11:33 AM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

As for the build order log, is something like what units were made possible to be extracted from the replay? (I.e. I think WC3Replays had this feature)

neon	Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 11:41 AM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

Just uploaded a file, all the information looks good, I think showing the whole build order might give too much away and make people a bit less likely to watch it, good to know how it starts. If there was a bit for someone to write a brief overview of the game would be nice too, but thats not specific to the replay parsing I guess.

I just did it to test the output and it looks good, I can test a bit more extensively at home tonight and provide some decent feedback, different browsers and such.

I think the features here are all useful, the apm graph maybe not so much, the unique unit id's I don't even know what is, and yeah the other parts you said you'd add sound good.

Dox	Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 11:44 AM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

Quote:

Originally Posted by SQLTt.yang

It seems to be great! Is there a way you can add a filter to the event list? Maybe let the user change how much they want to see or if they don't want to see anything in particular?

Yep, when browsing for replays in the database you'll be able to view a specific League (ie. MLG or IEM) and then a subcategory (Orlando, New York).

Quote:

Originally Posted by crAzerk

As for the build order log, is something like what units were made possible to be extracted from the replay? (I.e. I think WC3Replays had this feature)

That's actually already there, (underneath the APM charts) it's the part that I said to ignore 'cos I'm just using the default hex values from the MPQ instead of the actual unit names right now. At some point I'll replace them with graphics of each unit.

For example:
0x021101 = SCV
0x031001 = Marine
0x031301 = Marauder

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etc.

Dox	Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 11:50 AM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

Quote:

Originally Posted by neon

I think showing the whole build order might give too much away and make people a bit less likely to watch it, good to know how it starts.

Yep, I definitely intend on trimming it, but I'm not sure how deep into the game? Any suggestions? It'll appear in a separate tab, nonetheless.

Quote:

If there was a bit for someone to write a brief overview of the game would be nice too, but thats not specific to the replay parsing I guess.

I'll include a comments/description section.

Quote:

I think the features here are all useful, the apm graph maybe not so much, the unique unit id's I don't even know what is, and yeah the other parts you said you'd add sound good.

Thanks!

nirvAnA

Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 12:54 PM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

This is AMAZING!!!!

Dox so much for this! I would say having the chat / APM and your new interface everything is already pretty much there already and will be a huge improvement over our current replay system.

Build order should be whole game maybe capped at 20mins to prevent the excessively long 1hr games from messing it up. 20 mins so people can analyse games just by looking at the summaries, would be so cool and yea anyone wanting to click the BO is already going to get a spoiler so why not make it 20 mins instead of 6 where u cant really see anything (like the bnet histories tell so little). BO as it is now (like the bnet history) seems fine, dunno how more detailed it can be.. what else can be added?

+ [Some extra features i would love to see] +

Ridiculisk

Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 4:36 PM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

Very nice Dox, I uploaded a few replays and think everything looks good.

My only suggestion relates to the BO's it displays. It's an awesome feature to be able to display the actual BO out of a replay, so I think that feature needs to stay, maybe add another little link thingy after the 'Show Winner' spoiler (in your example) that says; Display BO Player [1/2] just so it doesn't clog stuff up for the casual players who just wanna watch replays, while those of us who are interested in in-depth analysis can actually see the BO and learn from it.

Obviously it's gonna look prettier than it does right now, so far so good.

System

Wed, 2nd-Nov-2011 4:39 PM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

DOX!

I need to know how to extract data from a replay file, I have been wanting to make a program but can't find any information on how to get information from a replay file.

Bugalugs McScruffin

Thu, 3rd-Nov-2011 7:40 AM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

System, I assume you just read it as in input stream, bytes at a time. You just gotta know what they bytes mean.

Dox can elaborate.

Dox	Thu, 3rd-Nov-2011 7:48 AM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

Hmmm, shall reply to the latest posts a bit later today, but in the meantime a bug seems to have been highlighted by Pinder.

A 28 minute game on Antiga Shipyard is listing both players as having 1 APM. The entire chat log is parsed, however the APM/Units Produced/Build order is only capturing the first ~8 seconds of the game. Worrying!

I'll try to figure out what's wrong, I've only got like 2 weeks to finish this and then I'm busy again! So please, keep the feedback coming.

Zepph

Thu, 3rd-Nov-2011 9:34 AM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

Very much like Doxfriend

For improvements I think trimming the "all events" section by what is actually displayed. For example instead of having "trains a pair of zerglings" written 8 times maybe instead have it recognise repetitions in the table and count them to spit out "trains a pair of zerglings x8" or something.

As far as additions go I'd maybe like to see a little more in terms of the economy? Workers created, resources mined, peak income...things like that

One last thing is in uploading a tourney game I casted, quite a few other people were obsing and the chat that your parser outputs includes both chat between the players and everything the spectators said as well because I wasn't referee. It would be good to filter this out if possible

LoRDo

Tue, 7th-Feb-2012 9:07 PM

Re: BETA: Replay Uploading Script

I'd actually be very interested in helping out with this site.

Hit me up on skype (see below) or some such if you're still putting out the calling.

Would also be interested in helping out with the development (I have a fair bit of web development experience).

(p.s. love the mock up idea)

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