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fray`ChadMann Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 5:38 PM

Diamond =/= A team
 
Hi guys.

Recently I've seen the numbers of teams popping up with Diamond rosters and players looking for teams in diamond or below leagues.

Just want to real talk with y'all for a sec...

Clans = A collective of like-minded people that play under the same tag and form a group bond because of the shared tag.

Team = Much like a clan, but they are sponsored by tech companies etc to play a game at a competitive/noticeable level.

If you are Diamond or below, you are not that rare. You're not really good at the game and you'll never (at your current level) win a tournament. Now I'm all for an Academy team that learn from more experienced players and develops the scene, that is great. But by no means should these Academy players expect sponsorship nor should they receive it. Sponsors want return on investment, they want to give a team something in order for that team to use the resources provided in order to generate marketing exposure for the sponsor.

For example; If I give some random guy a bottle of Coke and tell him to go stand on bondi beach with his shirt off and drink the coke, about 2 people notice that this dude is drinking coke and their reaction is 'that guy has coke, good for him'. Now, if I give Brad Pitt a bottle of Coke and tell him to do exactly the same thing, about a million people will see him (or an image of him) drinking the coke and they will, not only realise he has this delicious drink, but also that he is cool, bondi is cool and maybe drinking coke is also cool and desirable?!!

Do you see what I am trying to say here?

Please, stop making teams filled with Diamond and below players and thinking you'll be able to develop a new team and make it big in eSports with sick sponsorships and moutains of free swag. If you want to make a team, look at teams like eCKo and Silicon. Both set up by individuals willing to put in time to develop their talent to the top level (from people that were already scratching at the surface of the top) and invest their own hard earned cash to get their team off the ground. Once those teams started getting some traction and exposure, then (and only then) did any of them get a look in with sponsors and potential sponsors.

So please, take a second and look at what the practicalities of eSports is and what really needs to happen for teams to become successful and earn sponsorship.

That said, if anyone ever has serious questions about eSports, teams and sponsorship. I am always willing to give you my thoughts, suggestions and assistance.

GL HF


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x5_NXZ Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 5:41 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Why is fray's roster only diamonds then??

























hue

fray`Wally Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 5:42 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
why is x5's roster all retired then??













hue

fray`ChadMann Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 5:45 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Just wanted to add..

There are some exceptions so the "win tournaments = get exposure" concept.

You actually don't need to win, you just need to be a personality. Someone that everyone follows, supports or watches, Regardless of skill. Like Incontrol, Jessica Nigiri or Artosis.

fray`Wally Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 5:46 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
like me!!!


:^)



hue

Metalcore Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 5:50 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fray`ChadMann
Just wanted to add..

There are some exceptions so the "win tournaments = get exposure" concept.

You actually don't need to win, you just need to be a personality. Someone that everyone follows, supports or watches, Regardless of skill. Like Incontrol, Jessica Nigiri or Artosis.
Also a key thing to note, If you want exposure, you need to be seen, If you play in tournaments and want to be known, get on the darn stream. As a caster i can tell you how annoying it is to find games to stream in tournaments without admin assistance sometimes. So a tip to everyone, Its not hard to have your games streamed in tournaments so get in there if you want to get that exposure

MirG.ProzeR Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 6:22 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
#ChadisLoveChadisLife

EDIT: Ughh.. here we go again Jessica Nigri

x5_Bard Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 6:23 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fray`Wally
why is x5's roster all retired then??
So we can read your tweets all day and remember why we stopped playing.











hue

I also wholeheartedly agree with Chad, you need to think about what you can offer an org, not just what an org can offer you. Its not a one way street. I would also like to add that running an org is not easy, its alot of unpaid, unappreciated, hard-work and I have alot of respect for those who do it.

fray`FLuX Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 6:25 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fray`ChadMann Like Incontrol, [B
Jessica Nigiri[/B] or Artosis.
Didn't know who she was, looked her up on google.

Err err ERRR ERRMM

See you guys on the other side...

eCKo'Kreamy Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 6:26 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Wally is a liar. He hasn't even kill himself like his twitter says.

Chasu Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 6:37 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Chadster
You're not really good at the game and you'll never (at your current level) win a tournament.
this seems a little harsh especially to people who have been stuck in diamond for a while and commited a lot to this game but i agree with your main point. one of the reasons i dont join any teams is because i dont feel like i can put results down and thats really what sponsors want from a team

EDIT: also +1 for jessica nigri mention

boobs

TtSYF.Soundwave Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 6:41 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasu
one of the reasons i dont join any teams is because i dont feel like i can put results down and thats really what sponsors want from a team
Also because you're an undedicated scruberino

ZanC Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 7:15 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasu
this seems a little harsh especially to people who have been stuck in diamond for a while and commited a lot to this game but i agree with your main point. one of the reasons i dont join any teams is because i dont feel like i can put results down and thats really what sponsors want from a team
+1
I can totally relate to this, but it is the cruel truth.

fray`FLuX Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 7:18 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
I joined a team so that I could validate the countless hours spent playing video games when I should have been in class.

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW? Me with my team or you with your degree?

Yeah that's right now eat shit

ToRsupapower Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 7:28 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fray`ChadMann
Jessica Nigiri
whip em out boys /s

fray`Wally Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 7:55 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Kaceytron is my favourite pro gamer though

fray`ChadMann Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 7:57 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasu
this seems a little harsh especially to people who have been stuck in diamond for a while and commited a lot to this game but i agree with your main point. one of the reasons i dont join any teams is because i dont feel like i can put results down and thats really what sponsors want from a team
I am being particularly harsh for the sake of the point I'm trying to make. Also, consider that the viewpoint held by those that have something to give in terms of sponsorship.. You're bit of skill and commitment doesn't mean much when they are trying to run a profitable business.

fray`FLuX Sat, 18th-Oct-2014 7:57 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fray`Wally
Kaceytron is my favourite pro gamer though
Oh goody! I hope my name change request goes through this time then, I'd love to be your favourite

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

TtSYF.SouL Tue, 21st-Oct-2014 10:39 AM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Fack, why did I only see this just now

Solid post yo, and a good message to all "hopefuls" in the scene who think Diamond is the next best thing.

A team environment does NOT work with only lower level players, and a clan can fill any need a diamond player has for social practise.

mGG.ShayneRarma Mon, 12th-Jan-2015 10:43 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
uhhhhhh.. In light of recent events... BUMP!

fray`SouL Mon, 12th-Jan-2015 10:45 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Diamond teams with sponsors are the new thing everyone

mGGIcedTea Mon, 12th-Jan-2015 10:46 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
gj shayne i r8 8/8

ProzeR Mon, 12th-Jan-2015 10:48 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Sponsors are the shit

Rendorian Mon, 12th-Jan-2015 10:54 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Inb4 this gets bumped again in 2 weeks

eCKo'Kreamy Mon, 12th-Jan-2015 10:55 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Gotta show them sponsors all them GPD results

eCKo'Satu Tue, 13th-Jan-2015 12:45 PM

Re: Diamond =/= A team
 
Only just read this after hearing it via others. Completely on point, I think "team" managers set the bar too high initially, when they should perhaps start as a small clan and attempt to foster player growth.


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