SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site


  • Home
  • About
  • Streams
  • Features
  • Tournaments
  • Forums
Starcraft 2 SEA > sc2
About Us
An Overview of sc2sea
About Us
Contact us
Join our team!
Features
Live Streams
Replays
SEABets
Site Achievements
Articles
Article Archive
Who's Who
sc2sea.com Weekly Tournaments
Tournaments
Every Saturday BSG Open - (Bronze, Silver, Gold)
Every Sunday GPD Open - (Gold, Platinum, Diamond)
Monthly Sunday Masters Cup
Oseanic Championship Series 2015
Point Standings
The Grandmaster Manual
1. Introduction
2. Basics
3. Advanced
4. Anti-Cheese
5. Protoss
6. Zerg
7. Terran
8. Summary
9. Bonus Content!
Coaching
TGM Member Only Forums
TGM Official Coaches
Misc
Help us Rate TGM!!
Suggest what you'll like to see!
Need help? Contact Support!
Community Links
Members List
Search Forums
 
Advanced Search
Search Downloads
Advanced Search
Go to Page...
Community
House Clans
Clans
No recent threads.
Community
No recent threads.
Tournaments
No recent threads.
Latest Blogs New
tier list of people...
asdfSchnitzel
My Life Was Turned...
Sc2Clare
I've been playing...
SLCN.Wally
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
General
Stickied Threads
No recent threads.
General Threads
No recent threads.
StarCraft II
Starcraft General
No recent threads.
Strategy Discussion
No recent threads.
BSG Discussion
No recent threads.
Other Games
Other Games
No recent threads.
Sports
No recent threads.
News
News Archive
No recent threads.
Tournament News
No recent threads.
Articles Archive
Replays
Photo Gallery
Mark all forums as read
SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site Hide Replies

Blogs (/blogs/index.php)
-   Member Blogs (/blogs/browsecategory.php?c=3)
-   -   I declare myself Diamond (/blogs/showentry.php?e=158)

crAzerk Sun, 2nd-Oct-2011 8:09 PM

I declare myself Diamond
 
So, after a week (or two?) or playing SC2 again after my 2 months hiatus.... My official verdict is... I am Diamond league AT BEST. Those who have been watching my stream can testify to this.. my mechanics are horrible and all bleahz.

So anyway, I will probably be still playing more and trying to get back the feel of it all, and should be streaming on a regular basis.


Now you might ask... why on earth am I announcing this? Well because, I want to join the GPD!

Yea I actually joined today (and got knocked in 2nd round by a marine/maruder woo) but felt uneasy as people may complain that I was Master league yadayada.

So I hope that by streaming this week you guys can see my skill level and be clear that I am very definitely NOT masters! haha.

http://www.twitch.tv/crazerk

Support! Thanks guyS!
(Of course feel free to PM me TheGrayZerg.292 for a game or two )

Oh and I do have a proper blog column coming up.. takes awhile as I'm busy with multiple things at once. So stay tuned! Thanks for your support!


Hide Replies
Next_rim Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 12:54 AM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
No one cares about your ladder ranking


SQLTt.yang Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 12:59 AM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
Your posts make me constantly face palm next_rim.

System Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 8:19 AM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
To be fair it is the GPD and just because you haven't played in a few months doesn't qualify you for a lower league tournament.

I barely play any games so does that mean I can play in the BSG ?
I feel this post is to prove yourself to everyone that you are not masters quality and are on par with the GPD players and its probably true, but that's the rules

TAMiLes Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 8:54 AM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
It doesn't matter mate.

Solis Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 11:07 AM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
Come at me bro.

Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 12:45 PM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
Quote:
I feel this post is to prove yourself to everyone that you are not masters quality and are on par with the GPD players
That is precisely what I stated in the post

Yea as I said I'm putting this out to avoid any QQs from GPD players when I join next time. I am joining for the fun of the experience (we all know it's more fun to be playing in a comp vs ppl approximate your skill level), and hoping for an exception to be made. If you argue 'oh then what if every Master league player wants to join now' - if they are really that lame and all have decent justification for doing so, and hence cause complications for the admins, I will not join then.

Apth Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 4:55 PM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by System
To be fair it is the GPD and just because you haven't played in a few months doesn't qualify you for a lower league tournament.
This.

If you really are only playing at a Diamond level, you'll get demoted.

If you don't get demoted, you're either not playing enough games to accurately determine your skill level, or you're not playing at a Diamond level.

Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 6:04 PM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
Quote:
If you don't get demoted, you're either not playing enough games to accurately determine your skill level, or you're not playing at a Diamond level.
To be more accurate, I'm not losing enough games for Battle.net to determine that I have crossed the threshold for demotion, according to their lovely secret MMR formula.

If you were to step back and just think about it, there are many players 'at the threshold' for promotion (for gold or diamond) but simply stop laddering and instead just practice customs etc. They are hence at a far superior level than diamond leaguers.
One prime example is Kit (IGN Lithium), who dominated GPDs for a period of time. I made acquaintances with him and learnt this was precisely his case - he didn't ladder but just trained against Masters/GM etc. Thus he steamrolled his way THREE consecutive GPDs, and then decided he was bored enough and stopped taking part.

Thus my point is, why is this more acceptable than what I propose? Rules are imposed to ensure a fair playing field, and my joining does not implicate that.

Once again, I will not take part if fellow competitors are really against it, but I just hope you will be able to see my logic, over the rigidity of rules.

TAminimat Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 6:59 PM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
Me too ^.^

SirChristoffee Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 7:01 PM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
I do agree with crAzerk on that point. With there being some player in gold in SEA that may just play much more on other (typically NA) servers, so being much better than what they claim on the SEA server. He also quotes that people may just play lots of custom games which is just as plausible.

Personally, being a participant in BSG Clan league. I did pretty well and hopefully will so again. Though in regards to not being promoted, it may be likely that I am platinum level at heart (or just shy). It is not out of the ordinary for me to play against mid to high platinums on ladder. In saying that, I am not the best player in the BSGCL at the moment, as my second place in the BSGCL invitational would suggest.

I am not saying that myself or other should not participate but I may not be exactly gold, or just shy of promotion. This is likely to me just not playing enough games ladder or custom to get that little bit further refinement into platinum and beyond.

My point is, with this sort of distorted grey area that is formed when a player like myself is possibly better than BSG level (I may just be completely full of my self and cocky xP) but isn't promoted, why are the rules so inflexible for people that are possibly in a higher league, when it may already be discretely bent out of proportion below them?

So if he can prove himself to be a real noob ( ) and is a trustworthy member of the community (judging by his past achievements in his profile I'd say yes), why not bend the rules to accommodate someone who has well let his game slip?

Apth Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 8:44 PM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by crAzerk
Rules are imposed to ensure a fair playing field, and my joining does not implicate that.
I do not think that means what you think it means.

Moving on; how do we differentiate between Masters players who are playing at a Diamond level, and Masters players who are playing at a Masters level?

If we disregard MMR/League like you're suggesting, we would have to take their word for it. While I'm sure you're being genuine, not everyone will be.

I understand your sentiment and intentions, but don't agree.

Mon, 3rd-Oct-2011 9:32 PM

Re: I declare myself Diamond
 
Quote:
So if he can prove himself to be a real noob
Ugh, I hope not! Haha. A diamond league player isn't exactly 'a real noob' but yea, I'm streaming almost nightly now, can tune in to my stream to see me ladder

Quote:
I do not think that means what you think it means.
That IS the wrong term, I couldn't think of the correct one xD I suppose 'disrupt'?

Quote:
If we disregard MMR/League like you're suggesting, we would have to take their word for it. While I'm sure you're being genuine, not everyone will be.
To answer this, I quote my earlier post :
'If you argue 'oh then what if every Master league player wants to join now' - if they are really that lame and all have 'decent justification' for doing so, and hence cause complications for the admins, I will not join then.'

In other words, if my participation brings about such an uprising, I will not do so.


Powered by: vBadvanced Dynamics v1.2.0
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Events
Upcoming Events Add
No events scheduled in
the next 7 days.
OSC SEA Participation Bonus
Live Streams
No streams online.
Open SEABets
No open bets.
2015 OSEANIC Series
Latest Results
Americas Open #110 KeeN
OSC SEA Weekly #24 Probe
SC2Online Comm Open #38 aLive
February EU Ladder Heroes Nerchio
February NA Ladder Heroes TRUE
ANZ Cup #12 iaguz
Filthy NA Weekly #16 Semper
Proxy Tempest Open #43 PiLiPiLi
Top 20 OSC Rankings
1ByuN
2Seither
3DemiLove
4PiLiPiLi
5Kelazhur
6Cham
7iaguz
8aLive
9Solar
10KeeN
11EnDerr
12KingkOng
13TRUE
14GuMiho
15Probe
16puCK
17Snute
18PandaBearMe
19PiG
20Ryung
Full Point Standings
Earn extra points with Challenge Matches!
Bounties
Defeat these players and collect the $'s!
ByuN$100
INnoVation$75
Solar$75
Neeb$60
herO$50
GuMiho$50
Nerchio$50
TRUE$50
uThermal$50
Kelazhur$40
MajOr$40
Scarlett$40
Snute$40
aLive$30
Bly$30
iAsonu$30
KeeN$30
PiLiPiLi$30
puCK$30
Ryung$30
Cham$25
Cyan$25
iaguz$25
Guru$25
Seither$25
Semper$25
JonSnow$15
PandaBearMe$15
Probe$15
Latest Collected
Yours 2-0 Neeb $60
SC2ONLINE Comm Open #38
Azure 2-0 Seither $25
ANZ Cup #12
Cham 2-0 Cyan $25
OSC All Stars #24
FuturE 2-0 KeeN $30
ESL Americas Open #109
Donations
Donate using Paypal!

Even the smallest donations help keep sc2sea running! All donations go towards helping our site run including our monthly server hosting fees and sc2sea sponsored community tournaments we host. Find out more here.

Powered by: vBadvanced Dynamics v1.2.0
Home - Contact Us - FAQ - Members List - Advertise - Terms of Service - Top - Mobile-friendly (alpha)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
The contents of this webpage are copyright of sc2sea.com © 2010-2015. All Rights Reserved.
The Grandmaster Manual is a Starcraft 2 Guide created and owned by sc2sea.com
Starcraft2 is a trademark of Blizzard Entertainment, this is a community fan site and no infringement is intended.
Custom artwork by Zeus, Banner designed by Cute, other artworks is used with permission with credits listed here. vBulletin skin by CompletevB.com