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With the events that have come up lately,I have decided to go back to my original race of terran.

Thanks to mGGCrayonPop for the twitch highlight of yume's bronze to masters should bea great starting help.

Over the course of the next 2 weeks I will be doing as much research into every match up and every potential scenario, I believe knowledge gives power and with the power you can perform.

Current research plans:

Watch Yume's 9hr Bronze to Masters guide
- This guide provides great advice into build orders and the notation of a flow chart. essentially the flow chart will give a list of "if" statements, this will help with reaction to opponents build, eg, zerg does ultra switch get rauders, protoss gets photon overcharge f10+n

Watch and analyse a minimum of 10 replays of each MU
- Again helps with the flowchart notation, gives examples also as to how to counter a build or hit a timing that could potentially win the game outright or give you a great advantage

Learn each map
- Gives insight into building placement to assist with "simcity" this bit of knowledge I personal find very helpful, it shows you how to place your buildings to reduce travel time from production to ramp/rally point, that could potentially be one of the worst feelings, making units that take too long to reach a rally, which then makes your defence really weak

Work on marine split challenge
- I believe splitting units especially marines is a very important aspect of your game in all match ups, to become a good player you need to really focus on unit conservation, you need to make each unit count and clumping them together and losing them all to banes or splash damage in general isn't very efficient

Current goals with Terran

I am very aware with this race switch it will delay my original yearly goals for starcraft 2, which was to be diamond by the end of this year, but I honestly believe if I can dedicate my time a reasonable goal would still be getting to at least plat by the end of this year.

So the goals for this year, break into gold by the end of next season.
Win at least 1 BSG Open in the next 6 months
Get into a house clan on sc2sea

Thanks

Would love to give quick shout out to domo, you have always told me to do what I enjoy and pursue it, you have helped me so much more then you ill ever know and stitch, I wish you all the best with NDG and I really appreciate the time you took with me to give me pointers on casting.

I would also like to say a big thank you to everyone who has been supporting me lately, I really hope you will all follow this journey as I try to become a really solid terran player.

I will be streaming the gameplay once I am given the go ahead, will also post all 3 builds I will be working on, as I believe, the builds I will be using will be very safe and doing the builds over and over will provide myself with consistency, also by build I just mean opening, the flow chart system I will try to get a write up done for that and have that in my stream for all people to look at and if needed we can adjust it.

Thanks,
Chiddiru

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thanks for the shoutout dude! so happy i can ctrl+f domo in a blog ^^

I hope you stick with T, its a hard race to learn but it will be well worth it (imo most fun race, you can be sooooo aggressive). SEA needs more terrans, I hope you become one of them and help tournament viewers SEA-wide recover from the overdose of ZvZ matches.

Also might be a good idea to model yourself off of a korean pro, like Maru

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Hey fede, as a general rule when you are in leagues that are below plat-diamond or even masters to an extent the most important aspect of your game is macro. An overpowering level of macro will win you games no matter how the opponent opens and what his composition is etc. This said I would cut out learning each map in depth (they will change soon im sure anyway), cut out replay analysis (for now) and cut out working on marine split challenge. If i were you (and how i learnt terran) I would find a build on that guide you have for each matchup and watch the build so you have an idea how it goes (+ write it down) and just use that build until your macro develops. I recently swapped from T to P and quickly picked up the reins of the new race and I am probably at a similar level i was with terran, after about 3 weeks. So learn the builds first and how to macro and see how long it takes you to get back to where you were as Z. Once that happens just keep playing more and try and refine your execution.

By macro I mean not getting supply blocked, keeping your spending up, good upgrade timings, good expo timings and good scouting. After the first few games start reading about how to counter cheeses and such (this relates to scouting, but only after you have an understanding of how to play a decent macro game will learning how to counter cheese be worth it). If you lose some games to cheese so be it, ideally your macro will eventually be so much better than the other bronze/silver/golders that it wont matter if they cheese you can just steamroll over it.

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I strongly believe in you FeDe, these are really reasonable goal that you should be able to achieve once you recover. Just, please, I hope you won't have any feels of race switching in these 6 months just because you feel a race is too OP against Terran or something. Just remember as long as there is some GM Terran rocking out at Top 8, nothing's too OP. (just a bad but simple way of thinking how nothing is OP)

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yay terran go master race

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I resent the implication that bio is synonymous with terran... :/

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I'd suggest staying off the marine split challenge until your wrist is healed, splitting at high speed puts an insane amount of stress on your wrist. Afterwards though, it'll really help your unit control as well as your general mouse accuracy and even your APM, so go for it!

I also wouldn't worry about going into too much detail about each map, they change every season and for the most part you aren't going to get any game-changing knowledge from studying the maps. I also agree with bandit that you should be focusing on macro, once that's crisp and becomes second nature, then you can start adding all the other fancy stuff!

Everything else looks great, wonderful to see you've put some structure into your practice. Plat by the end of the year is a super realistic and achievable goal, as is Diamond if you put your mind to it!

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Quick Split Tip: Learn Ctrl Click for Marine/Marauder compositions. Ctrl Click Marines and stim them away from the masses of banelings you will encounter on ladder so the Marauders tank the damage. Worry about split challenges later.

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Don't fall into the trap of trying to learn too many things at once. Learn the basics such as mechanics and decision making and get better them and you should improve alot faster. Analysis can be as simple as looking at your replays for your first mistake and try to fix it.

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Yeah I'm aware that macro is a pretty fundamental part of the game. That comes with playing though, hence just studying ATM, marine split challenge is just something I feel that will help me. I really appreciate all the support so far also aware that tvp is a bit of a bad match up overall but I like verse Protoss

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goodluck fede , you can do it

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when I first got to masters as terran, I literally just made marines every game. I went 7 rax, 3 rax ALL KINDS OF RAX all the way to masters. I honestly love marine split challenge and I still play it now and I would suggest playing it since it never hurts to learn to micro.

That being said macro will be the key focus, doesn't matter what map, what race, what anything. you can just make marines and you'll be able to climb the ladder if you know how to spend your money

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stop trying to justify your mech habit and get back in rehab

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Also I am trying to get away from the notion that macro beats everything regardless, I want to and will focus on unit conservation, I want to make my units matter, I believe that if you know how to use units effectively you will win more games, having good macro and always keeping your money low is a fine goal but, i still think if you dont lose your units over and over because you use them properly you will probably do better.

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It's not so much that macro beats everything regardless. It's more that macro is the fundamentals of the game and you need it to be crisp and refined in order to successfully achieve ANYTHING else in the game.

It's all well and good to be really skilled at conserving your units, but what good is that if you don't have enough units to begin with because your macro is poor? Or if you convincingly win an engagement but actually come out behind because your opponent is able to stay on top of his macro during the battle?

Focussing on macro doesn't mean keeping your money low, waiting till you're at 200/200 and A-moving across the map to victory. It means learning the fundamentals which will set you up for success as you progress in Starcraft 2. Once you're able to consistently hit your macro markers, THEN you start adding things to your play which will take advantage of unit control and efficiency. You've had many lessons with PiG and I'm sure that he, as well as just about any other pro, will tell you that in the lower leagues of Starcraft, developing your macro and mechanics above all else is the best way for you to improve as a player.

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It's not very effective...

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I'm not trying to say that I won't learn how to macro, I'm just not taking on the fact that if you macro perfectly you will regardless of how you play otherwise, I want to be good with unit conservation, again it just comes down to playstyles, also I am sure PiG and many other pros would say the equivalent that if you aren't actually building the right units and reacting in an effective manner you won't win, I am not making the same mistake I did with zerg of just doing macro orientated practice without learning other fundamentals of the game is my ppoint i guess.

With zerg I got really solid at both the 2 base roach style to get use to injects etc as per the FilterSC Bronze to masters zerg guide and i then went onto learning 3 base roach max as well, but I just did those and I went to learn other builds, but because I didn't understand things like unit counters, unit compositions, scouting and what i am scouting for I just hit a wall, don't get me wrong I was never perfect, while doing the 2 base roach build from filters guide i was around 96% inject (but wasn't creep spreading) and in thwe 3 base roach max I was around the 92% mark, again not perfect but even with that mechanics I would lose games outright because I never understood the other basics of the game.

I believe that with my research and how I am approaching my learning this time around, I will be a much more well rounded player, sure I won't get my macro and my mechanics instantly, but I will understand what I need to be doing and eventually I will be much stronger with terran in the long run, in my opinion, it is better to learn of a good set of fundamentals then to just build those foundations 1 pillar at a time, as there will always be a lean and a reduction on the other sides etc.

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Thought I would drop by and wish you luck FeDe

I too am heartily tired of people telling me macro is king. its an important part but if you neglect everything else... things just wont work. i.e constantly working on producing constant streams of zealots and immortals doesnt hel you if you dont scout your opponents mass Void Ray build.

OK extreme example there haha but the point stands.

Also FeDe props to you so far. Your manner has improved a great deal! Keep it up brother!

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Learn macro build, make marines, marines > all, win . oh don't forget that stim button.

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You might not win with just macro in masters or gm but you will in bronze. And what do you mean that "macro comes with playing, hence why just studying atm"

What army composition beat your 3 base roach max? and macro isnt just about injects...either way its up to you im just adament building more shit than the other guy will win you game (in the lower leagues)

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Everyone is allowed their own opinion bandit

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yah just saying what worked for me, up to you how you approach i suppose

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full aware, hence my comment bud, no sarcasm or malice intended with the comment

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That is a wrong assumption, if you have more units 90% of the time you will win. you assume that because you have 92% inject rate(rofl I barely get over 70%) that you have good macro, I've looked at your stream a bit and you are usually floating 3k 1k off 2-3 bases, your injects can be as good as you want but if you aren't spending that larva what is the point of even having it.

If you learn how to spend your money I will guarantee that you will make at least diamond by the end of the year, if not masters. if you focus on learning builds, tricks and micro you won't make it past platinum. Tricks are nice but there is a limited amount of stuff you can do with micro.

Macro also helps build you game knowledge, you microing marines vs ling bane only teaches you how to micro marines vs ling bane. If you start by just making as many marines as you can, building barracks as you start to float money and just spend your minerals as much as you can you'll start to realise "hey maybe if I get tanks at this time I won't lose to this all in" or "if I start the armory when my +1 is at 70 seconds then it will finish when my upgrade finishes " and you'll pick up on how things time out.

You say "everyone has their own opinion" but you have to realise many of us have more experience in this then you, personally I have gone from never playing an rts before to being top masters, Blake is a smart guy and also terran, you should really listen to him too haha.

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The only difference is that marines shoot everything