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dot89 Sun, 21st-Apr-2013 9:04 PM

WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
***This post was made by PiG not Dot.***

A lot of concerns have been raised in other threads. I just wanted to give my personal view of last night. In a semi-coherent rage form..



Why was the bracket designed to last 10+ hours? There was 3 hours between the first and 2nd round. THREE HOURS. Many of the other rounds had a whole hour and a half designated when the sets were done in 30 minutes. Myself, the koreans and everyone else playing from the other side of the world had to get stay up until 3am to play. Our first round opponents were all sub-diamond so it was over quick. We then proceeded to play our r2 opponents. When we tried to report r2 it wouldn't accept the replays because they were played at the wrong time. From here it was on average a 2 hour wait to get an admin to manually input the result before we could continue in the bracket.

Now I understand the bracket should be catered to the American timezone. But wtf is with such massive breaks between games and a system which inhibits the bracket moving quickly? Is it just trying to waste peoples time and exhaust us players from the other side of the world??

Also on the note of chinese players not being allowed there were a lot of Australians who stayed up till 4am to recieve confirmation they didnt get put in the bracket. Some may have signed up too late due to being interstate at ACL LAN but 3 of these guys are top 50 GM on the NA ladder and they stay up till 4am to find out "lol nah u cant play".


I can understand the logistical nightmare it takes to run an event like this at short notice.

I can NOT UNDERSTAND the fact that MLG have had many of these similar problems (nonresponsive admins, shit website/ reporting system, failure to DQ cheaters and people who falsely report until the bracket is compromised) BEFORE. These problems have happened in so many MLG qualifiers before and they never fix it. I can't understand why they can't get competent volunteers and a decent website to help them out.

My friend and progamer Tgun chose not to play specifically because he expected this sort of crap running of tournaments. Here are some quotes from his twitter:

"@NvRossi I had an e-mail guaranteeing me a spot in the qualifiers. Still not worth it, knowing how MLG runs online qualifiers."

"@NvRossi I didn't exactly want to spend four hours per round arguing with admins more than playing SC2.."

"The amount of people who expected this qualifier to not be a joke is astounding."

- https://twitter.com/iM_tgun

So to round off the story I'd like to say that it got to 9.30am, 7.30 korean time, where I was facing Apocalypse in winners r5 and we'd both had no sleep. We talked about how silly MLG was and the fact that we'd mostly played amateur players so far and continued to play an extremely messy and somewhat sloppy series on both sides. He won and clearly was the better player in the games. My question though, is why the **** couldn't we play our games 5 hours earlier? It felt more like a night of endurance watching tv shows and trying to figure out how to contact admins/report results than a tournament. Really retarded experience so far.

Anyway, got losers bracket match most likely vs Heart tomorrow at 5am, hopefully I can slay a few Koreans. Hope MLG fix their shit!


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FaDeBadger Sun, 21st-Apr-2013 9:09 PM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
Fix your shit and post on the right account too haha

ETL.Daedalus Sun, 21st-Apr-2013 9:09 PM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
Dot so gosu playing apocalypse But yeah from everything I heard it was a nightmare, sorry to hear that and good luck with the rest of the bracket!

ETL.Halt Sun, 21st-Apr-2013 9:29 PM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
I didn't know Dot was this good

T3CHavOc Sun, 21st-Apr-2013 9:39 PM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
Hopefully they sort their shit out for next time :/ - online brackets can be so sloppy sometimes... good luck tomorrow!

xGKingSatu Sun, 21st-Apr-2013 10:02 PM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
I think that PiG posting on the wrong account is a good reinforcement on the fact hes gone without sleep.

RVLiveR Mon, 22nd-Apr-2013 9:32 AM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
I feel really bad for everyone involved in the failure we see in MLG and NA in general, they're actually just retarded.

However, I don't get why everyone's simply forgiving (or so it seems) MLG and telling them to fix it for next time. "Next time" isn't nearly as important as WCS, and MLG has to fix this now. What the **** is MLG doing? They fucked up so many things, especially after China (we still have no response, as far as I know) and letting in diamonds into the bracket. While I do understand they can't really give top 512 as it might come across as biased or whatever, but they sure as hell can't do it by registration time. At least have some sort of league restriction, holy crap.

It's so sad how a name as big as MLG can **** something up this much, especially because they were given a huge second chance by blizzard to fix their previous reputation as a bad OQ organizer already.

Good luck PiG!

RVIXLNamakaye Mon, 22nd-Apr-2013 2:14 PM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RVLiveR
I feel really bad for everyone involved in the failure we see in MLG and NA in general, they're actually just retarded.

However, I don't get why everyone's simply forgiving (or so it seems) MLG and telling them to fix it for next time. "Next time" isn't nearly as important as WCS, and MLG has to fix this now. What the **** is MLG doing? They fucked up so many things, especially after China (we still have no response, as far as I know) and letting in diamonds into the bracket. While I do understand they can't really give top 512 as it might come across as biased or whatever, but they sure as hell can't do it by registration time. At least have some sort of league restriction, holy crap.

It's so sad how a name as big as MLG can **** something up this much, especially because they were given a huge second chance by blizzard to fix their previous reputation as a bad OQ organizer already.

Good luck PiG!
And the issues just kept on coming with Comm getting DQ'd cause he didnt get a spot and got given a spot by someone else. Can't believe how badly this got run

fray`Ninja Mon, 22nd-Apr-2013 8:38 PM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
I signed up and checked-in but didn't get a spot when the brackets were released so I couldn't play.

mOOnGLaDe Mon, 22nd-Apr-2013 11:36 PM

Re: WCS Qualifiers - Rageblog
 
I thanked sweet baby jesus i didn't have to play in another MLG qualifier.. I've had nothing but bitter disappointment in them. Worst run tournaments i have ever experienced in sc2 and in war3 (when there was significantly less everything)


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