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elimzke Tue, 26th-Apr-2011 4:59 PM

elimzkE whinging about ZvZ
 
SO! As many of you may or may not know, I am one of the main culprits behind the #foreverbronze tag :]
In the past 2 weeks, I have gone from losing 8 games in a row to winning every ZvT and ZvP in bronze and silver that has been unfortunate to cross my (fast expanding) path.

However, this is not the case for ZvZ. When I play against another zerg, whether they be Bronze #1 or fresh out of practice league, I am always doomed to lose. If I go speedlings first I get hit headon with banelings. If I spot speedlings first I try to go banelings and then get molested by roaches. If I try to fast expand I get mauled by speedlings.

IT'S A TOTAL MESS.

Anyway, I've had a full think about it and I think I may just 14pool mass speedling and try to attack economy. Depending on the outcome I will either expand or 1b roach. I DUNNO.

ADD ME ON FRIENDS TO HELP ME OUT HERE: elimzkE.250 (same code for SEA and NA)


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kellyMILKIES Tue, 26th-Apr-2011 7:16 PM

Re: elimzkE whinging about ZvZ
 
#foreverbronze

Flaunt Tue, 26th-Apr-2011 7:31 PM

Re: elimzkE whinging about ZvZ
 
#foreverbronze. buy me a steelseries keyboard pl0x

elimzke Wed, 27th-Apr-2011 2:51 AM

Re: elimzkE whinging about ZvZ
 
If my ZvZ doesn't improve in the next week, I'll make another whinge blog posting specifics and replays so everyone can see how to perform strategies that will keep you #foreverbronze ;D

On the other hand, thanks for the tips earlier Flaunt, and I'll practice trying to keep up that 15 hatch + hold off early pressure ^_^
I'm confident that if I can make it into the mid-game with minimal economic damage I will win the macro game... just gotta perfect those early game mechanics! Rawr!

TO SILVER!

SatuSPR Wed, 27th-Apr-2011 2:16 PM

Re: elimzkE whinging about ZvZ
 
Sounds like you're approaching it wrong, just need a better idea on how ZvZ should be played.

BordZ Wed, 27th-Apr-2011 2:29 PM

Re: elimzkE whinging about ZvZ
 
wow I am finding the opposite in my few games, I feel that I am starting to get zvz and starting to lose it on zvt . I hope you work out whats the issue.

And on a tangent I have typed in foreverbronze on the chat and its always empty :s so im just wondering how your progressing with it

Wed, 27th-Apr-2011 8:16 PM

Re: elimzkE whinging about ZvZ
 
You could even try some 15 hatch all-ins, and the reason for why it works is that you will have more larva than your opponent.

But I agree with you that it's really frustrating. It's my build of choice too.
However, it is more or less a build order loss against an early pool opening (e.g. 10 pool banelings)

elimzke Thu, 28th-Apr-2011 12:39 AM

Re: elimzkE whinging about ZvZ
 
ARHG!
I've tried so many different things, and I seriously CAN NOT hold off any first attack.
Seriously, if I could JUST HOLD OFF THE FIRST GOD DAMN ATTACK, I would be fine!

I just played a match on shattered temple. Hatch at 15, pool at 15, scouted he had a roach warren at the same time i threw down my pool.



... LOST TO 8 ROACHES THAT RUSHED ME STRAIGHT AWAY JGHA-RU89DTGH-RE89GH-E89GH-39EYTH-5ET-


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