[nirvAnA]

CODE S Invites.

Seed	Race	Player	Country	Votes
#1		Iceiceice		13
#1		RedArchon		12
#1		jazbas		11
#1		Oxygen		11
#2		Revenant		11
#2		YYJ		10
#2		Aaron		10
#2		filthy		10
#3		Edge		10
#3		Kowi		9
#3		Jesse		9
#3		roz		9
Subs
#1		light		9
#2		deth		8
#2		soft		8
#3		azz		7

* If any of the above cannot make it, the subs will be invited in that order instead.
*There was a bit of a tie breaker with 4 players having the same votes but only space for 3. So after discussing with several people who also told me to account for race/country representation i selected the final 3.

+ [Instructions] +

Choose your top 12 players in sea from this list, if i missed anyone feel free to add. glade is excluded
Rule 1: Do not name yourself or clan mates
Rule 2: Do not read other peoples votes till after so as not to influence ur decision.
Rule 3: Please vote based purely on skill and not personal differences. *cough* rev/oxy
Rule 4: Only active SEA players votes are considerd so as to reflect an accurate judgement of skill in todays scene. i.e Azz/Fitlhy votes not counted.

filthy
wild
pinder
jimdiddy
pig
Kowi
OxygeN
spidereight
edge
starfish
sweet
fah
RedArchon
Revenant
juicy
indy
muse
YoonYJ
Iceiceice
Azz
jesse
roz
aaron
soft
light
jazbas
deth
risen
renson
cobo
refallen
starhunter
voices

[Roz]

infi input 1

Filthy
YoonYoJun
Oxygen
Juicy
Jazbas
jesse
Soft
Edge
Kowi
Aaron
cobo
light

[TAEdgE]

TA input 1

Filthy
RedArchon
Kowi
YoonYJ
Iceiceice
Azz
jesse
Light
aaron
Oxygen
jazbas
Revenant

[JesseTheKING]

alt input 1

light
edge
RedArchon
Revenant
juicy
muse
Iceiceice
roz
soft
jazbas
deth
fah

[x5.Revenant]

infi input 2

Edge
Deth
Pinder
ProtonWira(RiseN)
Jazbas
Soft
Cobo
YYJ
Renson
Kowi
KingJesse
Aaron

[Soft]

ngen input 1

filthy
pinder
Kowi
OxygeN
edge
RedArchon
Revenant
Iceiceice
Azz
jesse
roz
deth

[Snx`Azz]

outdated, not counted!

kowi
oxygen
edge
redarchon
juicy
Iceiceice
aaron
soft
jazbas
renson
yyjoon

suggest: shuffle

[NvJazBas]

ngen input 2

Iceiceice is ice right?
Given that, here is my list. If it's different person, fah please.

filthy
OxygeN
spidereight
edge
RedArchon
Revenant
Iceiceice
Azz
jesse
roz
aaron
deth

[YJY]

alt input 2

filthy
pinder
ice
redarchon
azz
roz
deth
jazbas
kowi
rev
fah
spider

[learner123]

neutral input 1: sponsors vote

Filthy
Kowi
OxygeN
starfish
RedArchon
Revenant
YoonYJ
Iceiceice
roz
aaron
soft
light

hey nirvAnA.. u ask me for special request .. can i have u to play in it too =D

[OxygeN]

alt input 3

ice
soft
jaz
juicy
kowi
filthy
redarchon
roz
cobo
edge
spidereight
light

[Nvdeth]

ta input 2

filthy
OxygeN
RedArchon
Revenant
indy
YoonYJ
Iceiceice
Azz
jesse
aaron
light
jazbas

[progrezzion]

ngen input 3

oxygen
redarchon
yoonyj
deth
iceiceice
jesse
cobo
aaron
pig
indy
Azz
starfish

[PiG]

alt input 4 (no more alt inputs allowed)

filthy
Kowi
edge
RedArchon
Revenant
Juicy
Iceiceice
soft
light
jazbas
deth
cobo

[NvPinder]

TA input 3

filthy
jimdiddy
Kowi
OxygeN
Revenant
YoonYJ
Iceiceice
Azz
roz
aaron
light
jazbas

[mGMUSE]

inFi input 3

everyone actually :S

Oxygen
YoonYJ
Ice
Jesse
Aaron
Soft
Light
JazBas
Renson
Cobo
Refallen
Edge

[nirvAnA]

almost done, 3 votes left

[nGenLight]

ngen input 4: (no more nGen inputs aloowed)

Tough list to pick from
Edge
Spidereight
Deth
Jesse
Roz
RedArchon
YYJ
Pig
Revenant
Fah
Pinder
Oxygen

[eekjan]

neutral vote 2

OxygeN
edge
fah
RedArchon
Revenant
juicy
YoonYJ
Iceiceice
roz
aaron
soft
jazbas

[TAEdgE]

Race balance is really good, the clan balance not so sure ^_^;;;V

[nirvAnA]

i cant put 3 TA 3 ngen 3 alt 3 infi just to be even thats why i went through all the trouble of getting votes

deth was close at 8 votes but pinder was way off at 5 and azz had 7 tho i really wanted to see him in it.
the inactivity on SEA was the issue

[TAEdgE]

yeh fair enough i guess, but it's not like kowi or filthy play SEA either. It's fine though, its a really good group anyway!

Just think people should privately message you their picks instead, so people dont get influenced by other peoples choices. Pretty big variable. All in all good though.

[NvPinder]

This isnt a stab at edge, more so the way you decided to make the voting system, but i love the way edge would very openly admit to not being as good as me or deth, yet he gets in very easily simply because hes friendly with people in other clans.... and people like azz miss out and kowi barely scraping in simply cos they dont waste time playing on SEA, **** me kowi got #1 on the US server very recently and some of you twats didnt vote for him cos you wanted to suck the dicks of the people you're friendly with outside of your clan.

seriously just make everyone have qualification tournaments in the first season then go from that would've been a far more fair system.

[nirvAnA]

perceptions
the best of SEA perceive edge to be better thats why he got in. it might be a little because he is friends with them but imo it has more to do with his high placings in basically every sea tournament in the last 3 months, whereas you/deth have been largely absent. they have based their votes on those results, u may feel u/deth are better but you dont have the results for the voters to see to back it up, and that is why their perception is such.

basically the seeds were based on the collective perception of the 20 top and active players on SEA which differs alot from your perception, hence the anger, which is understandable because people always beleive their perception to be more correct and better than the next person. Which is also why to be fair i used an average of votes and did not give particular players votes more weight.

popularity?
an example of this - pple like kowi/jesse are so far detached from community, i doubt anyone voted them in based on friendship. i recall i would look at kowis real id friends and alwayse be suprised he only had 9 friends for 5 months, 3 of them being his siblings and well that jesse kid bms the shit out of everyone in this list(and although hes "manner" to us he could not receive clan votes) im supirsed they even voted him. so no, i do not think this is a popularity contest. ice is far from a friendly guy and he ended up top seed.

finally its not like, we selected 12 garbage players, this is the collective opionion of the top 12 players from the very best players in sea. it was extremely competitive, over 200 votes were cast and good players like starhunter/wild/voices had not a single vote thats how tough it was. like edge and many others have said, this is a very strong group and even if its not completely perfect, i would say this is an extremely accurate list save 2-3 players and even those are close

time/sponsor constraints
yea edge, i could have gotten pple to pm me but i wanted voting transparency and yes, a selection for each code S spot would have been fairer but the logistics of that is ridiculous, if 2 tourneys a week it will be over 2-3 months like WD psi and we had this timing window where gsl was over to capitilise on to get viewers. then theres also the issue of admins/prizes for those tournies making the final prizes lower, that and the sponsor wanted it happening now.

i felt this form of code S selection was best method if you consider the circumstances we were facing. and personally i would liked to have seen deth/azz in as well but hey theres the whole point why i had 4 open slots, to allow for "errors" in the system. and im pretty cut at how hard u were guys were flaming the selection procedure on pod cast, where ive taken time and tried to be as fair as possible instead of doing it the easy way, say choosing 12 players i want or the sponsor wants or using sc2ranks or having a public poll which i feel are all ridiculous options. then again i think back to the Blizz SEA invite and the anger at the choices, which i thought were pretty decent. pple qqing at "OxygeN who??" who ends up getting 3rd etc.. selection procedures for big tournaemtns will always draw flak.

if they realy are code S you can look at it this way - they have two chances to win an extra $75 from winning in code A in additional to anything won in code s so free money for them, with the fact that theres weaker competition in code A with all code S players being banned from it.