Hello SEA!
So, we've all been there. Many among us have BMed, and I'm sure at some stage we've all been BMed. Tonight I experienced a very funny BM from a bronze league player. Lost to me at 2vs, then challenged me to 1vs, then lost horribly. He then persisted with his BM explaining to me how 3 gate expo was for noobs, and that I obviously sucked. I refrained from explaining that 1 base zerg play at 13 minutes in is not exactly the best way to go, and simply left.
What I want to know, is what do people get out of such heavy BM? I mean, a little BM can be funny, but there is a limit.
So share below! All your BM experiences, whether they be funny, sad, stupid, kinky, or just plain weird.
We will uncover the mystery of BM!
on SEA everyone is really nice to me for some reason but when i played on NA months ago and was cheesing my way up the ladder i got abused heavily like nearly every game. even in beta i rmb nadagast catz and NTT and others bming after they lost
so yea i do think SEA is alot less vocal compared to NA in whining/bming at least
I think its hilarious when your opponent wins and then does BM.
I once went vs a terran that won with banshees (Not dGun) who promptly after the ladder game told me that a fast expo was a bad idea. Im a zerg player. Not going for fast expos can usually be worse.
There are some times when I want to burst out at protoss or terrans for doing allins that kill me instantly, just like Idra. Unfortunately, Im not original enough to ask them to apologize for playing that race.
I think I saw a thread like this on TL, some players are more funny than BM.
I've barely run into any BM players, though I've been called a cheeser (with various colourful adjectives tacked onto the front) for opening roaches in zvz a few times =/
Idra " I wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money."
Idra is boss.
If i win against someone who tried to cheese me i abuse them to hell, i never used to bother but i have just gotten sick of them, i had 3 cretins in a row try to 6 pool me then an asshole who tried to Marauder+SCV rush me.
Oh BTW check oh this channel. It's a channel which does low-mid level SC2 commentaries. Does point out the common mistakes low levels playerss make so i think it's a pretty good channel for bronze/silver/gold players to learn and improve do subcribe and support them!
I'm always tempted to BM when my mothership build works, because it's just that dumb, but, I can never bring myself to do it. The worst I do is a GG noobs / ragequit.
Unfortunately BM is in every single online game there is; and it's been around since games were played online. However I think people give it more credit in a game like SCII where manners and good sportsmanship are meant to be common.
That said, I've never once been a BM player; I begin each and every game with a "GL. HF" and if I lose a game, for whatever possible reason, I lost it based off my own actions (or, lack thereof) and should watch the replay to better myself and leave with a "GG. WP". Although a lot of other players don't share that same mentality, which is why you see a bunch of "X is UP", "Y is OP" and "Nerf X, Y, Z" threads on the battle.net SCII forum.
That said, I played 16 games yesterday and encountered BM players in about 15 of them; in those games, I just shut my mouth and played my best. In one game though, I came across one person who was actually nice and had a quick chat in the early-game where there's not much else to do; added him to friends because it's seemingly becoming harder and harder to find decent people in the SEA/ANZ region.
To be honest, I think the amount of BM one experiences goes down as you climb the ladder.
All the BM I receive these days are on custom games where I try the other races for a change and when I lose, I get endless streams of,
"HA HA UR DIAMOND AND I WON. U SUCK"
Or somesuch. :<
Depends.
At the lowest level (wuts multiplayer??), people don't BM as much because everyone's terrible. At the highest level, people tend to be more professional (exceptions exist, naniwa, idra, etc). It's the players in between (all the way up to 000 diamond etc) that rage hard, because they're actually trying to be good, but aren't, and need to bust out that e-penis.
i think people who are BM take it too seriously! its a game. when 2 people start a game, 1 MUST lose!
Taking the game seriously is the only way to improve effectively. Most BM is people trolling or people who are just frustrated with their play and are venting. I've had my fair share of both dealing and dealing with BM, it helps me let off some steam after a losing streak, as rude as it is, it helps me in a way. (I don't bm every game haha)
I am generally quite polite when I play sc2 but I do tend to rage a bit at times. Last night I was tired and was playing my last game of the night. Some guy tried to all-in cheese me and after he lost started asking me for tips. I obviously abused the fk out of him.
Lol I got the worst BM for a half ass fourgate xD Far out the dude was so raging he swore F like at least 20 times and far out I was so noob for a like a 8 minute push it was so lol xD
Lol I got the worst BM for a half ass fourgate xD Far out the dude was so raging he swore F like at least 20 times and far out I was so noob for a like a 8 minute push it was so lol xD
SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! That was a cheesy noob ass 4gate! I'd have won if it wasn't for your 8 minute 4gates. Only noobs cheese like you. You're lucky my 4gate took my 10 minutes and not the usual 9 minutes otherwise your cheese would have epicly fail, you useless noob. Why don't you go back to the hole you just crawled out of an uninstall this game? Cause surely a cheesy noob like you do not deserve to walk the face of this earth. FFFFFF
As a player who only recently switched to maining on SEA instead of NA I found that NA players are a lot ruder. SEA players tend to GG a lot more, or are able to laugh at themselves when they lose terribly whereas on NA I found a lot of the players are horribly sore losers that use any opportunity to have a cry.
Other than that the BM isn't too bad...unless you play team games. Therefore I only play with people I know ^.^
I never understood but it was funny. He wasn't really all that bad, but he never teched and had the most unfavorable building planning so my Collosi walked up to his Marine Marauder mix at 18 minutes on Delta Quadrant and not only did he have to squeeze through a wall off, he had built another barrack behind the wall off. Like 2 lanes of units squeezing into 1... :/ He outmacro'd me
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From the Heavens move the ground.
From the Earth remove the keystones.
Tear the world asunder,
And Lay bare the Scarlet Hearts of men.
-Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
Hmmm, Since I'm a Touhou player I assumed he meant NEET which means 'Not in Education, Employment, and Training'
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From the Heavens move the ground.
From the Earth remove the keystones.
Tear the world asunder,
And Lay bare the Scarlet Hearts of men.
-Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
I am generally quite polite when I play sc2 but I do tend to rage a bit at times. Last night I was tired and was playing my last game of the night. Some guy tried to all-in cheese me and after he lost started asking me for tips. I obviously abused the fk out of him.
You did well, cheesers deserve to be royally raped by a squirrel, since that will never happen the only thing you can do is explain to them how gay their father is and why their uncle seems to visit so often.
I think SEA players are generally very nice, and also quite caring and loving as well.
Today I lost my 4th 1v1 in a row against a zerg with burrowed roaches, and I couldn't land my cc to scan so I said "not a gg " and left. In retrospect bm of me, but after the game the guy messaged me saying "you're cute ; gg" to which i replied " ya too!".
Yay spreading the love maybe instead of gl hf we can say you at the start of the games ^^
I think SEA players are generally very nice, and also quite caring and loving as well.
Today I lost my 4th 1v1 in a row against a zerg with burrowed roaches, and I couldn't land my cc to scan so I said "not a gg " and left. In retrospect bm of me, but after the game the guy messaged me saying "you're cute ; gg" to which i replied " ya too!".
Yay spreading the love maybe instead of gl hf we can say you at the start of the games ^^
Oh I tried that, doesn't work so well lol T_T, I think 'eat a di$# bit%#' was the usual response.
If I'm feeling particularly sassy I'll say 'thx' in response to 'GLHF'. I don't typically gg 'one base play' unless their micro was amazing.
ggs for the average win/loss ggwp for the amazingly fun 30+ min macro games xD
I think SEA players are generally very nice, and also quite caring and loving as well.
Today I lost my 4th 1v1 in a row against a zerg with burrowed roaches, and I couldn't land my cc to scan so I said "not a gg " and left. In retrospect bm of me, but after the game the guy messaged me saying "you're cute ; gg" to which i replied " ya too!".
Yay spreading the love maybe instead of gl hf we can say you at the start of the games ^^
What someones using my lines everytime someone BM's me i just reply "lol your cute"
Jesse and his "Next" comments after taking an advatange in the KOTH games yesterday was so BM and a big nono but at the same time a part of me found it hilarious
I don't understand BMing. . .in any game. . . theres always an even chance to win, if a zerg 6 pools me and i loose, its my fault because i should be ready for a 6 pool?sort of....i atleast know that its a posibility. . .
as for people BMing against me. . . i 4gated pvp, survived a 3gate timing and was told i was a noob :/
i am only silver but come on. . .
I remember I 4-gated a terran who went 3 rax, 1 factory without grabbing an expand (therefore not really having much of an army). After the game he was like "sorry, bad game =)" and left.
I think its funny that its seen as bad manners, not just raging. It is as if you do not belong if you have bad manners. In other games, people say lol he raged and never talk about it again. But in starcraft, its a big deal. Funny looking at the difference in opinions.
i am normally polite aswell but a few days ago i i decided to play on the NA server and was mega pissed ( i got like rushed by every race and every way you could think off ) so the last game i played i just like abused and swore and gave them shit about anything i could think of :P was quite funny
Was playing Raynor party a it was hilarious cos the two guys who were at the top were supposedly allied and what really rocked was one of them just kept going 'what are you doing?' to his ally. Lol, as if he forgot only one person could win.
P.S: Raynor party with 7 people takes forever...
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From the Heavens move the ground.
From the Earth remove the keystones.
Tear the world asunder,
And Lay bare the Scarlet Hearts of men.
-Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
SEA is pretty tame compared to NA, was playing on SEA sick of zerg so decided to play one as protoss, facing a zerg on metal went a bit ballsy and dropped a 16 nex, he saw it went pool first but no agression, 20+ minutes later after I crushed him in eco and engagements he proceeds to tell me how if I didn't play so cheesy he could've won and I shouldn't rely on early rush strats so much, they'll stop working when I face good players like him who aren't having an offday.
lol sometimes i jsut talk shit to people not exactly bm but still i was like "your mothership is so fat it makes everything under it invisible" the guy mothership rushed me and he finished with "yeah lol what do u know it realy does" i was like*FACEPALM*
then at other instances i just start talking to him its like "how has your day been" "no respose" "i see your not much of a talker" goes on till i start having to actauly have build things
Oh wait! I used to open up with 2 gate zealot pressure into expo in PvP. 12 and 14 gate though so it still allows me some vestige of an economy but yeah it's not optimal. Anyway, this guy goes 8 Pylon, 8 Gate then puts a proxy pylon behind the tall grass at my natural on Xel Naga then proceeds to get gas and Warpgate. After I rape him in chat he goes 'Zealot rushing is dirty.' I had absolutely no idea what he did till I saw the replay because when my 2 gate hit he had a Gateway done and Cybernetics Core that was just warping in.
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From the Heavens move the ground.
From the Earth remove the keystones.
Tear the world asunder,
And Lay bare the Scarlet Hearts of men.
-Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
When I dont get a gg in a game i generally hit chat and bluntly ask them where are your manners I want my gg. most people actually go 'oh sorry, gg'
lol i've done that as well a few times.
I normally always say gg when I've just been beaten by a decent zerg or terran. I've found myself never saying gg when I lose to a 4 gate from some retard protoss.
just played a protoss player called kiss, hes rank 1 in his divi (i dont know how) anyways im like at the start, GL HF (no reply) he opens with a zealot canon cheese move, i hold it off, then he proceeds to dt's (scouted) so im prepared, then i go and kick his arse, then leaves with no gg
just played a protoss player called kiss, hes rank 1 in his divi (i dont know how) anyways im like at the start, GL HF (no reply) he opens with a zealot canon cheese move, i hold it off, then he proceeds to dt's (scouted) so im prepared, then i go and kick his arse, then leaves with no gg
i bm people all the time but in a friendly way.. at least i think it could be considered bm..
what i REALLY dont get is when people call things like cannon rush or some type of cheese BM?
i watch the live streams through TL website sometimes & in one instance Liquid Huk was playing some korean guy who beat him 3 times in a row PvP. in one game the korean guy cannon rushed huk which sent him into an uncontrollable rage & he was threatening to kill him afterwards just because he got cannon rushed & lost lol 'WHY DID HE BM ME?? ASK HIM WHY HE BM ME?' he cried
wth are cannons for then, merely base defence?? r u not allowed to rush with them?? is that against the rules??
and i saw others saying its BM if you choose random & dont reveal to your opponent what you ended up as. sht like that
its a fkn game, there is no rule book or book of ethics. u can do wtf u want
i bm people all the time but in a friendly way.. at least i think it could be considered bm..
what i REALLY dont get is when people call things like cannon rush or some type of cheese BM?
i watch the live streams through TL website sometimes & in one instance Liquid Huk was playing some korean guy who beat him 3 times in a row PvP. in one game the korean guy cannon rushed huk which sent him into an uncontrollable rage & he was threatening to kill him afterwards just because he got cannon rushed & lost lol 'WHY DID HE BM ME?? ASK HIM WHY HE BM ME?' he cried
wth are cannons for then, merely base defence?? r u not allowed to rush with them?? is that against the rules??
and i saw others saying its BM if you choose random & dont reveal to your opponent what you ended up as. sht like that
its a fkn game, there is no rule book or book of ethics. u can do wtf u want
It's bm probably because the players expect a good macro game and what they get is an early rush/cheese which totally spoils the mood of the game you were expecting. Nonetheless we dont really get manner pylons nowadays. I flamed my friend last time in SCBW because he did that on me.
It's bm probably because the players expect a good macro game and what they get is an early rush/cheese which totally spoils the mood of the game you were expecting. Nonetheless we dont really get manner pylons nowadays. I flamed my friend last time in SCBW because he did that on me.
The best and really only valid response to any form of bm is the following expression:
umad?
umad bro?
I find this lights them up slightly more :P
In zvz the constant 7-10 pools I've been dealing with make me want to BM, but i settle for the simple "Naughty boy" as i see their drones and lings winding across the map.
If i micro right i then crush it and try to convince my opponent that those builds will NEVER work on a "good" player like myself.
I always loved bm'ing on xbox, so much more personal talking in person, you can hear how mad they are. Friends and I would go in as a party and just start arguments for the sake of it, always funner when we got americans
I generally am rather polite to my opponents and do try to talk to them after the game if I encountered anything rather interesting from their play. My general observations of the SEA ladder is the general politeness of the players as a whole, though there are some rather vocal bad eggs in there too. Thumbs up SEA!
I bot BM'd by a guy for playing Protoss.
He said "Why don't you pick a real race, instead of that joke of Kiddy Club you idiots call a race".
I proceeded to roll his mutaling build and told him to roll Protoss, because he clearly needed to have the Kiddy Club training.
i cheesed alot during beta, i believe i proxy gated in his base a few times and 4 gated a few times(when warp gate research took like 30 seconds to complete) as well haha so i dont totally blame him.
it was generic bm along the lines of me being a cheesy no skill noob etc, cant rmb the details. hey even azz bmed me back in the day lol! and well.. i sorta "bmed" glade after he pwned me with mass mutas like 5 games in a row too haha
Well, i got bmed after i held off a badly timed bitbybit prime style all-in. something like i suck because i had a bunker. also got bmed after i took out a mass banshee build with marines. it is quite funny, especially when he said 'f*** u, i'm gonna win' after the usual glhf. but to be fair, sometimes i quit w/o gg.
see why i dun like team games? The BM gets out of hand all the way to epic proportions. The worst BM i suffered was in 2v2 random when this guy BM-ed me the entire game. Even tho we won, it didnt feel fun at all -_-
1v1 BM... not too bad at the moment. Some protoss said the "zerg so easy to play... just mass roaches and win" or "lol 75/25 stalkers" but thats about the worst 1v1 BM i encountered.
Had a few bad bms. One that comes to mind was in a 2v2 game my team mate was CONSTANTLY telling me what to do than calling me crap for not doing exactly what he wanted and this was after his whole base was destroyed and i had to play 2v1 eventually I won the game. By the end I just told him he's a real fk head and should focus on his own game.
Another one I lost alot of workers to a banshee rush and I said what an annoying strat. The guy than said "bad much?" After that i built a couple of thors and killed all his banshee's and his base and just said bad much? back and he raged hard with lots of swearing, I kept the replay for fun.
I've played wc3 in Russia (thorugh Garena), NA and EU, WoW in NA, and now sc2 in EU and Russia. NA is pretty bad, especially when people lose. Stupid american kids rage so much, lol. NA shit bubbling is funny though, NA are skilled at trolling and smacktalk.
But nothing compares to Russian gamers, who talk shit non stop, and if they start losing, they swear, cry imba, QQ, and worst of all, sneak building in the corners of the map just to annoy you and make you waste time, while they go out for a smoke.
On the NA server, during my placement matches i was up against a high gold Protoss. then i decided to steal his gas and hit him with roaches. He then calls it a cheese simply because i stole his gas and he left and invited me to a custom 1v1 i then tried to steal his gas to annoy him but he already took both of them then he laughed at me then i did roach hydra and attacked and i beat him and he said it was cheesy still...
NA...... Some noob made fun of me. Asked me if I was japanese and when I said no, called me a japanese wannabe. My reply was I love killing whales. Banter went on throughout the whole game. I won and when he left, he said I hate you not because you won. I hate you because you're a horrible person. LOL!!! After the game, I sent him a message ,'Muaks' and he said, 'Don't bother replying'. LOve it when people initiate a BM. Gives me a reason to BM back.
i try to keep it in lol, but NA people talk more in my experiences, and SEA not so much, also is it bm if after a long game he says gg, i accidently hit the caps button after a 20 minute game and GG comes out in caps?
blizzard should implement something like "/ignore" for their (in game) chat system.
I got BMed / trash talk many times, mostly complaining about how imbalance Terran is ...
I'm really tired of this =/
I recently got abused by someone because i apparently cheesed him. I had actually just gone for a FFE on shakuras and asked him how that was cheese and i was then informed that FFE is "economic cheese" it was a rather hilarious experience.
I recently got abused by someone because i apparently cheesed him. I had actually just gone for a FFE on shakuras and asked him how that was cheese and i was then informed that FFE is "economic cheese" it was a rather hilarious experience.
Economic cheese? hahaha oh god that cracked me up.
P.S. I think I 4gated you and won not long ago on ladder, thanks for not BMing me :P
Economic cheese? hahaha oh god that cracked me up.
P.S. I think I 4gated you and won not long ago on ladder, thanks for not BMing me :P
Haha I still gg against 4gates these days. I usually can hold them off no but if i don't i just get pissed off at myself rather than at the other player
I don't think I have ever BM ever on sc2. No point in talking trash since it doesn't benefit anyone. If people try to trash talk me I just ignore them.
Just played a guy in 3v3 twice in a row who lost both games. Both times he flew all his buildings off to every corner of the map (terran, obviously).
Now, i understand that you're angry, mate, but this waste's just as much of his time as it does mine... i dont understand that particular BM. If I rage, which happens more often than not, i usually say something and leave, i dont draw out my pain until they hunt down every single building i have and destroy it. seems a little masochistic to me.
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If we're Terran, let's fly our CC's away! If we're Zerg, let's MASS QUEENS! If we're protoss, let's MASS SENTRIES! EPIC MINDGAMES!
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I agree with Zepph that NA server is quite abysmal as far as manner goes. Even the heroes in Platinum league are convinced they're the next bonjwa and blame you "being bad" for their loss.
I almost never bm. It's really quite appalling how nice I am to everyone, even when they cannon wall between my main and natural on Tal'darim Altar.
Although this one time, I had a few drinks and was doing team games with friends and there was one cannon cheese too many. We won the game, and I decided to message the cheeser the entire lyrics of TLC's "I Don't Want No Scrub". He put me on ignore right before I got to the rap part, which was good because I was typing the lyrics from a website, my hands were getting tired and I saw that part had lots of words.
Ha btw If anyone ever plays me and gets GG in caps.. its not my BM. I often accidently hit the caps button.
My BM is no gg usually when Im on a loss streak and Im frustrated or I lose all my stuff thanks to a lag spike in which case I just leave... so then I stop playing for the day... but if someone has lost the game and still expects me to hunt for all his crap and tries to re expo.. sometimes I'll give him a friendly reminder to leave and dont waste my time. If I am treated to a gl only, I take it as being cocky and wont reply.
I just hate chumps who are all talk and no game, they BM you for 3 minutes then u own them, then they go quiet. Then after the match...BOOM messages from them saying how bad you are, and you cant reply to them cos they have you on ignore. This really grinds my gears.
I just hate chumps who are all talk and no game, they BM you for 3 minutes then u own them, then they go quiet. Then after the match...BOOM messages from them saying how bad you are, and you cant reply to them cos they have you on ignore. This really grinds my gears.
I often BM. Although I'm only a retaliator. If the opponent doesn't say glhf, I won't say glhf. If the opponent BMs, I'll BM back. That's just how it works for me. Coming from the CS:S scene, I have an arsenal of BM to unleash ;D
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If we're Terran, let's fly our CC's away! If we're Zerg, let's MASS QUEENS! If we're protoss, let's MASS SENTRIES! EPIC MINDGAMES!
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I generally don't respond to BM.
Most BM I do get is preemptive GGs and I just do whatever I can to turn it around and beat them.
That actually gets me off, destroying someone who pre-GGs.
I used to whisper people after games with a "gg" if they left without saying it, but nowadays I find myself able to understand the frustration of a series of losses and don't take it to heart anymore.
I find a simple stfu noob and f11 block is the easiest way to deal with ingame BM, especially those that say **** you or something similar back when I say gl hf.
For some reason stfu noob elicits the most in game chat from ragers and the best part is you're not reading any of it
I used to be a really BM player but only when my opponent started it. I danced lings built manner hatches and needless units and dragged games out. Its all pretty childish and dumb though so I just go with the f11 block now.
I don't BM, because I feel like no matter what your opponent did, I lost because of my own inability. Sometimes I do complain to friends about PFs though. I find that if I don't BM on ladder no one else BMs back.
I try to be a manner beast like Sheth, but I get very frustrated with cheese/all-in builds and may express displeasure, although I wouldn't classify it as BM.
Check VOD of BSGTL, Fade A vs BtD of me on XNC and that is about as far as my BM goes.
***at this point i have cannons in his mineral line, and he has 1 cannon hitting my nexus (but not denying mining), making it obvious i can win simply by saving 400 minerals and rebuilding enough to kill his 3 cannons (2 in his main, 1 in mine)***
00:05:19 - YellowDragon to ALL: another shithead who thinks cannon rush will get him anywhere
00:05:26 - zealo to ALL: ic
00:05:39 - zealo to ALL: umad?
00:05:41 - YellowDragon to ALL: i hope you will die to cancer soon
00:05:44 - YellowDragon to ALL:
00:05:49 - zealo to ALL: hemad
00:06:46 - YellowDragon to ALL: have fun
00:06:48 - YellowDragon to ALL: me afk
00:06:52 - zealo to ALL: ok
00:07:17 - zealo to ALL: so BM
00:08:04 - YellowDragon to ALL: xD
00:08:08 - YellowDragon to ALL: it is fun
00:08:10 - YellowDragon to ALL: isnt it?
00:08:17 - zealo to ALL: ?
00:08:40 - YellowDragon to ALL: i hope i can waste as much minutes of your life as possible
00:08:43 - YellowDragon to ALL: :-)
00:08:46 - zealo to ALL: ic
00:08:56 - zealo to ALL: so you're saying
00:09:04 - zealo to ALL: your time is less valuable than mine?
00:09:16 - YellowDragon to ALL: i have some other stuff to do
00:09:24 - YellowDragon to ALL: its no problem
00:09:33 - zealo to ALL: cool story
00:09:41 - YellowDragon to ALL: !
00:09:46 - zealo to ALL: yet you keep talking to me
00:09:51 - YellowDragon to ALL: its funn
00:09:53 - YellowDragon to ALL: y
00:10:02 - YellowDragon to ALL: i like talking to retards
00:10:34 - zealo to ALL: you scouted my proxy and still lost, how are you not the retard?
00:10:45 - YellowDragon to ALL: well
00:10:46 - YellowDragon to ALL: tbh
00:10:53 - YellowDragon to ALL: im just hoping for normal macro games
00:11:05 - zealo to ALL: ic
00:11:05 - YellowDragon to ALL: because thats what starcraft is about
00:11:07 - YellowDragon to ALL: after all
00:11:10 - YellowDragon to ALL: but
00:11:11 - YellowDragon to ALL: well
00:11:27 - YellowDragon to ALL: you are not able to macro and i know that
00:11:32 - YellowDragon to ALL: that makes me so happy
00:11:40 - zealo to ALL: what makes you think that?
00:11:51 - YellowDragon to ALL: theres always some1 who is even worse
00:11:56 - zealo to ALL: maybe i just like cannon rushing PvP
00:12:06 - YellowDragon to ALL: maybe you are playing random
00:12:13 - YellowDragon to ALL: because you dont know how to macro?
00:12:21 - YellowDragon to ALL: just cheesing your way up
00:12:35 - zealo to ALL: ic
00:12:36 - YellowDragon to ALL: finally realising that cheesing will get you nowhere
00:12:41 - YellowDragon to ALL: and you have wasted your time
00:12:46 - YellowDragon to ALL: but
00:12:55 - YellowDragon to ALL: i dont even care
00:13:03 - YellowDragon to ALL: have fun doing that stupid things
i remember about a year ago now i played a zvp on the map steppes of war, the protoss decided it would be agood idea to try and wall me in with his gateway and cyber core, once i saw this i responded by dropping a roach warren and busting out, my bust was successful and, realising he was defeated, the guy said something that went a long the lines of '******* fast roach so imba will never work platinum and up' so i messaged him asking what he expected me to do and he told me that i should be building 'better units' and asked me to 1v1, i accepted, i took a quick expansion and went mass roach hydra while he collo rushed...literally collo rushed, no wrap gates, one colossus to hold them all, and lo and behold, his internet died, what a coincidence
i remember about a year ago now i played a zvp on the map steppes of war, the protoss decided it would be agood idea to try and wall me in with his gateway and cyber core, once i saw this i responded by dropping a roach warren and busting out, my bust was successful and, realising he was defeated, the guy said something that went a long the lines of '******* fast roach so imba will never work platinum and up' so i messaged him asking what he expected me to do and he told me that i should be building 'better units' and asked me to 1v1, i accepted, i took a quick expansion and went mass roach hydra while he collo rushed...literally collo rushed, no wrap gates, one colossus to hold them all, and lo and behold, his internet died, what a coincidence
Man, I hate it when I dc from a game that I have in the bag
I had a PvP game but my opponent kinda went for FFE with his gate infront and cannons behind o_O when I scout him. Then I went for a 1 base 5 gate to punish him for that. Once I totally destroyed his gate, forge, 2 cannons n tons of probes in his expo, he said "!@#$ u" after I answer his how many gates I was on
I changed race on NA to Terran for fun, so after dropping my mmr to get to bronze-ish level I've encountered some amusing chaps.
This one I only screen-capped a fraction of, though the rest was him just telling me I'm shit and that I should've lost and to stop being so mad.
Most of these are pretty tame - bjornbandr, i give out more BM for an opponent being protoss. Very occasionally I will flip out and really badly BM someone. As in really badly - whenever this thread gets a new post I always check to see whether it has been me that has been featured.
I think we all accept that most of us BM from time to time, and a single BM doesnt mean they are a bad sport or not a manner guy in general. This game should nearly be called Frustratecraft, because it would have to be one of the most soul crushing games i have ever played - really high highs and really low lows.
Therefore, I will start the group off - "Hi my name's Volition, and I occasionally BM in Starcraft. It isnt just a "**** you" either."
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Volition - Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo
Most of these are pretty tame - bjornbandr, i give out more BM for an opponent being protoss. Very occasionally I will flip out and really badly BM someone. As in really badly - whenever this thread gets a new post I always check to see whether it has been me that has been featured.
I think we all accept that most of us BM from time to time, and a single BM doesnt mean they are a bad sport or not a manner guy in general. This game should nearly be called Frustratecraft, because it would have to be one of the most soul crushing games i have ever played - really high highs and really low lows.
Therefore, I will start the group off - "Hi my name's Volition, and I occasionally BM in Starcraft. It isnt just a "**** you" either."
"Achievement Obtained: The Manner Man
Courteous to everyone and helpful to those in need, the manner man is a good role model and the epitome of pure manner, a rarity in todays idra infested world."
I am known as a rager and "BM"er among my friends and anyone who has played with or against me in other games (CoD4, DotA, HoN) but I don't talk shit in-game or rage anymore because I'm too busy playing the god damn game.
I reply if they PM me out of game though.
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All I ever wanted was to study~
Im normally pretty well mannered but when i go off i go right off. Usually i did something dumb or (Insert excuse i know) lost because i have about six years lag and when that happens i generally go a little stupid....also there is difference between being BM and just straight out shit-talking
lols, oh yeah, this one time i lost to some scumbag, i bmed him so hard, i threatened to track him down and beat the shit out of him w some guys, the moron bought it and immediately begged like a dog to not beat him out, apparently dumb shit was always bullied at school lol, i just replied well (anonymous) **** u and continue getting your balls busted in school b4 dc. that is i think the bm that roflstomps idrA
I don't understand why people are so sensitive to bm. It's just like two boxers trash talking before a fight, and for me personally bm helps me relax before playing a game and player more fluently, plus i love offensively gging players out.
I don't understand why people are so sensitive to bm. It's just like two boxers trash talking before a fight, and for me personally bm helps me relax before playing a game and player more fluently, plus i love offensively gging players out.
i live to see the day when people dont go out of their own way to be a dick ,
One of these days....
Obligatory BM story - Guy sees that my Bnet ID is "Bash", and says "thats funny, because im going to bash your skull" (whaaaaaaa?)
So of course, i assume cheese and sure enough he shows up with a ling/bane allin, which i held like 3 times, then he kills a forge with a crapton of banes, offensively "GG"'s me, and still doesnt kill me.
So being the not-quite-retarded player i am, i re-made my wall, and continued with sentries + some tech, and then rolled him, he raged a bit, (i forget exactly what?) And then said "gg actually, you're pretty good"
I have a knack of BMing poor Jabito every time we play T.T He just seems to get these absurdly lucky wins whenever I play him AND IT MAKES ME MADDDDDDDDD
Sadly. i do occasionally BM people. regretfully. i always appologise afterwards i only get to the point of BMing when im on a bad losing streak. like 3 wins 20 losses. then i start losing to silly cheeses i usually defend. i just get angry :P. BMing people is not very nice though. if they beat you. then obviously you need to train harder to scout better or macro/micro better. in my opinion anyway
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Previously known as FSQwerty
Pixel.709 - -
So I played this guy a while ago, and found the replay... Basically I beat him and he had no units left, instead of ending the game there he decides to lift his buildings and fly them around the map forcing me to build air units to take his buildings down and add another pointless 10 mins onto the game :/
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Tonsh. 510 Protoss SEA Zerg NA
I dont think iv ever really BM'd someone, not because I dont get mad (I do) but I know that the other person would just enjoy it and don't want to give them the satisfaction.
I know people like to BM to let off steam, but everyone seems to enjoy receiving BM because they can say "Oh he sooo mad", if the purpose of BM is to discourage another player, it really does a terrible job of it.
Getting BM'd by players I dun even know, does upset me sometimes.. more so at the beginning when I started to sc2 than now. So sometimes I vent and then get over it. Then mentally tell myself if I do meet that guy again, I'm going to try to keep beating him again.
That said, I have met many other players who are nice, both on SEA and NA.
For me its kind of funny that everyone is ok with a little bit of BM, and then when it escalates you start to get pissed and its not OK, but then after you go past a certain point, it just becomes hilarious because nobody in their right mind would BM so much.
I played a game on ladder(gold league) and I sieged up and fortified the middle of antiga shipyard with a plantery wall with my seige line, my opponent ran into this line with plain roach,ling baneling with no air support and lost everything while i lost only a few units. After this he proceded to say that "terran is OP" and "bad terrans love this map", I still said gg and told him that he was a good player and complimented him on his infestor drop play, but he didnt take it and left
I have never BMed another player b4 but got a few insults when I 4 gateed in my placement matches on NA. Only thing that would be considered BM that I have done is earlier today my macro game just went out the door for a few games and I didn't gg my opponent.
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Where I am placed currently: SEA:NA: My Crawl up the Laddershere
AZKziek: rofl
AZKziek has reconnected.
AZKziek: what a ******* joke
You: yea man
how do you lose
AZKziek: have to play greedy or die
then when u blindly push
You: stop being bad
AZKziek: for no reason whatsoever
rofl
You: wasnt bling
AZKziek: u realise
at a high level
You: blind
AZKziek: that push is useles
You: good
AZKziek: silly me thinking u were good
You: **** you
i new what the timing was
and what your build was
AZKziek: ur baed
You: so stfu
yea what off it
AZKziek: u had 0 idea i was going greedy colossi + dual forge + twilight
You: i knre colli
AZKziek: ur bad
You: knew colli
AZKziek: u knew nothing
You: had some idea of the rest
AZKziek: u didn't ******* scan a colossus den
u scanned a robo and nothing else dickhead.
You: dont need to
...
AZKziek: yes u do ROFL
You: why are you playing me
if you are so good
AZKziek: protoss sucks
You: then play terran
AZKziek: no need
they'll rebalance the game soon enough
You: ahh yeah true then terran will be good again
AZKziek: newp
ur race is easier.
no melee units
all micro, no skill cap
You: what is toss?
hardly macro
hardly micro
AZKziek: no shit
You: so ezpz?
AZKziek: comes down to luck
You: oh
ok
AZKziek: and pure deception
You: ahhh
please continue to enlighten me
AZKziek: rofl
ur fuckin trash
You: yeah mate
AZKziek: not even GM on SEA
You: i have been masters for 12 days give me a week more
AZKziek: ur trash
You: indeed
raithen says hi
AZKziek: rofl
What surprise me is that you take the time to discuss with him. I see he stays the racist shit he was already. And he asked for a 8th (or more) chance a few weeks ago ....
Whilst the SCII community is one of the best online communities I have ever been a part of I must say I am still one of the most BM players I know. At first I thought it was funny, but I really am trying to keep composure when playing these days, not only out of respect for the other player but to appreciate that this is indeed a game and getting better involves losing and learning from your mistakes. I think most of the frustration comes from losing because of little mistakes and it is indeed often the greatest hindrance to improvement - above and beyond watching and playing the game.
I guess players should keep this in mind even if they don't care about the community. It's for their own improvement.
My favourite memory of being BM'd on the SEA server was from a fellow zerg. He went pure hydra ling against muta ling bane, eventually won through just having a stupid amount of bases compared to him (he had two base, and dropped about 6-7 spores at each one and 4-5 spines at his natural). Complained that I was a 'noskillmutafag' because i never transitioned...he never made an infestation pit and was on 2base .
The closest I am to BM is 6pooling people, although I will respond to someone bming me, because I find it hilarious.
I dont usually get bm on SEA so I was stoked when this happened. A protoss player was doing a 4 gate stargate push. I saw the quick double gas and then I also scouted the 4 gates with my intial scv so I was scouting around for proxies and found his stargate. Allin scouted and easily defended. Proceeds to say !@#$ ureself lucky %^&*. Of course I follow up chat after the game to try and get more rage.
You: That wasn't luck when i saw your gas timing
tbhApoc has reconnected.
You: I knew to check for proxies
tbhApoc: sur esure
ure so por
pro
u aw my gas timing
dickehad
*** ureself pls
u r !@#$
Not as epic as NA rage but the best I've got here on SEA in ages.
I battle with BM issues on a daily basis on ladder I hate it though. If someone cheeses me then the urge to BM them is almost overwhelming, it takes a lot of willpower to GG out without saying anything, though I'm getting better at it & as a caster it makes you look bad in the eyes of the community.
At the end of the day many people fail to realize that there is another person at the other end of the BM who has feelings too! It's hard to feel empathy for someone who is anonymous to you, which is the biggest problem of the Internetz, I think .
It's a vicious circle that must be broken: Often if someone BMs you, you feel like you have the right to BM back, though if people want a nicer community then it's better to just "GG WP" and treat them nicely :P I quite often find the person and apologize after BMing them, many are nice people and take the apology. People should try their best to apologize after BM, it really makes a difference.
Chad: Yeah, I'm bored to death right now. I have a lot to say, man! lol
Last edited by Ghosty; Fri, 22nd-Jun-2012 at 12:21 PM.
i bm if I'm playing an off race like T cause im like below bronze league Wood league if you will on T but generally a nice guy when im playing Z as for getting BM'd not really people are quite quiet on the Ladder i find you get your glhf's and gg's and thats about it
My friend even filmed it, I lost my shit at a cannon rush and was subsequently beaten pretty profoundly. I've learned to quell my rage, but it still lingers inside of me. Every loss a nerve twinges a bit. But it's the nature of the beast, I'm looking more towards improvement now.
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Previously known as Posijuice JungleNed.629
Oh wow what? It seems everybody has some really tame experiences of SEA.. I've had all sorts of BM! Before my name was IXLives I was known as Kerrigan, and before that www.com.au which has invited some interesting conversation.
I've had people hit on me (Kerrigan), had people literally swear non stop through an entire game starting with the first baneling bust (oh this homo build..). Also had people refuse to talk to me because the "don't talk to websites" (www.com.au).
I have to say though, SC2 is WAY more mannered in general than sc1 was, hidden away deep in some of the darker corners of battle.net 1.0 scary people lurked. Nothing will ever live up to the standard of cod/halo 3 on xbox live though.
I just played against the most bm player I've ever met haha. AsGGriefer. I wonder if it ruins the reputation of his clan? :O. Maybe I should post the replay to the clan leader LOL. No... Too far... But I was in a good mood when I was playing, then I lost horribly and the bm just added to the pain. D:
I just played against the most bm player I've ever met haha. AsGGriefer. I wonder if it ruins the reputation of his clan? :O. Maybe I should post the replay to the clan leader LOL. No... Too far... But I was in a good mood when I was playing, then I lost horribly and the bm just added to the pain. D:
pretty sure he left AsG a while back, send me or sedz the replay though and we'll have a word to him if it's over the line
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i guess i need to learn how to play now...
I just played against the most bm player I've ever met haha. AsGGriefer. I wonder if it ruins the reputation of his clan? :O. Maybe I should post the replay to the clan leader LOL. No... Too far... But I was in a good mood when I was playing, then I lost horribly and the bm just added to the pain. D:
Seem anally frustrated bro, I suggest listening to the sounds of the rainforest whilst you play.
I dont understand people's problem with it, i love the rage/BM. I love receiving it and I dish it out when i feel it needs to be done. I'm a terrible TERRIBLE player but getting owned 3 times in a row by toss ghey just recently forced me to say to the last guy "I'm sure your're a great guy, but go f**k yourself". To me it's not even bad, I know he would of been laughing his ass off at my rage, it probably made his day. Anyone who would get hurt by such things needs a spoonful of concrete in their morning coffee.
I don't normally glhf...because i honestly don't care about their luck or if they have fun, i just wanna play, i don't see anything 'bad mannered' about it...i might just say "u2". Sometimes i don't gg due it not actually being a good game. If i lose to a guy who does something really nice or who legit rapes me i will say something like..."brutal...gg" or "that blahblah was really nice....gg".
this is me all over...but with male genitalia and a caveman beard....
the closest i come to starting anything is asking "no gg?".
in which case i would argue they started it by not offering the traditional respectful surrender
if you think failing to 'gg' isn't BM feel free to not say it in any of your WCS games and see how people react
Not gging isn't BM, it's -no- manner. Do you really think saying "no gg?" to someone who just lost is the best way of going about this? Like, honestly. Somebody just beat you, you're pissed off and they message you after the game (that they just won) feeling like they're entitled to more.
Last edited by iM tgun; Wed, 25th-Jul-2012 at 12:16 PM.
I've rarely been BM'd on ladder apart from a few games on Tal where people 4gate me then rage when it doesn't work. Although I've never cheesed so that might be why I don't get BM'd much haha. Generally if someone BM's me I just BM back for the fun of it. I've not GG'd sometimes but it's more because I just wanna leave the game then I realize after so I message the person GG.
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Formerly known as mGGZeratul
From the shadows I come! I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.
Last edited by Fairyking; Wed, 25th-Jul-2012 at 12:22 PM.
meh on NA ladder because of how much BM I got I don't talk on ladder at all, don't say glhf or gg ever, even if they glhf. It's a setup man they're going to bm you once you reply :P
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