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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 4:26 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 1
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How Map Hack works

Today, some player was stupid enough to decide to create a new account and stream while Map Hacking. He quickly found himself with 80 viewers and got to in 3 hours.

I took the occasion to watch how Map Hack software works and I took some screenshots to share.

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The video (if he doesn't delete it): http://www.twitch.tv/ilililililil1/b/316457612

How it works

You see your oponent minerals, gas and population as in a replay.

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Map Hack software settings (he changed them when playing )
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He's French speaking because we've seen him watch French Battle Net while on stream ...

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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 4:36 AM BnetId: TASlowHands.335  Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 239 # 2
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You know you have failed in life when you hack in starcraft and still cant get to masters T_T

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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 4:40 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 3
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Sorry Slowhand, I edited my first post while watching his video. In fact he purposely created a new account and decided to stream from the placement match while Map Hacking. He ended in .
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 4:44 AM Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 346 # 4
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 7:42 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: FlashRevz.721  Race: Clan: Flash  Location: Emoland, Singapore  Total Posts Made: 515 # 5
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Forcefield timers, that shyt is good.
Oh and cheaters are disgusting.
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 7:53 AM BnetId: IrisFlaunt.148  Race: Clan: Iris  Location: Christchurch, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 100 # 6
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he probably made it and is advertising it on stream. he's not stupid, just wants more money.
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 8:01 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: mGGNemesis. 653  BattleTag: 14350  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,822 # 7
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While my intial feelings were mixed with slight horror, I'm glad to see players fend off his attacks and win.
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 9:15 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: IrisPetraeus.226  Race: Location: Auckland, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 1,200 # 8
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I always wondered how this stuff works o_o Thanks for the insight, Nemo!
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wow, didn't realise maphack was THAT powerful like it full shows the production tab and gives u tips lol
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 9:20 AM BnetId: Extraught.525  Race: Location: australia  Total Posts Made: 27 # 10
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shortly after i was reading this thread about 15 mins later he got his stream banned.
twitch-1 hacker-0

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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 9:26 AM BnetId: aLtNXZ.221  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 853 # 11
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 9:32 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 12
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hey were can i dowload dis?

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Really pet? me and del be needing dis to win yo
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Read my reply lol :P
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 9:35 PM BnetId: faithHunter 598  Race: Clan: TN  Location: Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 260 # 13
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hey were can i dowload dis?
Here.

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Anyway, regarding about how maphack works, I never expected the maphack software can also make the production tab appear on your game screen. If you add that up with maphack, then you would only need to look at the minimap to see the enemy's movements, and you only need to glare at the production tab to see what the enemy is making. You wouldn't even need to scroll your screen to see what's going on on your enemy's base.

...And for some reason even with maphack some people STILL can't get past Diamond. I guess you truly need to understand and master the game if you want to get to masters, huh :P
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 10:33 AM BnetId: TAEaeron.312  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia  Total Posts Made: 100 # 14
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I have also wondered how this works lol; seems silly to just show it on stream, forcefield timers would be a welcome addition for attacks
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 10:40 AM Who's Who:   Clan: None  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 2,231 # 15
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oh wow !
i didnt know hacks were so complex! the unload warning, supply depot warning...
why would he stream this btw?
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 11:04 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAdeL#159  BattleTag: FXOdeL#468  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,917 # 16
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This thread makes me want to hack
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 11:06 AM BnetId: TADivinity.650  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 332 # 17
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This is far more complex than I had ever anticipated.

I played a Protoss with the same sort of name as this guy. Watched the replay - he definitely wasn't hacking because I snuck a gold base that he never found ahah.

Still very annoying that this shit is running in some 'black market communities' though
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I played someone with roughly the same name last night. Very likely wasn't the same person, but even so. Didn't know about so many alert's to supply/drops etc
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 11:33 AM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,130 # 19
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I almost like a controlled custom map like this to practice noobies on so they can have things yelling at them to build depots, anticipate drops and learn timings. Then take it off and see what happens. Training wheels of a sort.

That is very interesting.

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+1 They should make a training wheels map just like this for people, will help for sure
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This should be in like, easy mode of campaign~
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 11:34 AM BnetId: Zepph.293  Race: Location: Unkown  Total Posts Made: 258 # 20
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That's really interesting o_o I can't help but think maphacks like this would be really good for practicing to understand timings and when you should be scouting your opponent....but only in custom games. I sure wish I had something that told me when to inject my hatcheries like it tells you to build supply depots though!

edit: iaguz y u post the same thoughts a second before I do? T_T stop it

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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 12:04 PM BnetId: 794  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Toowoomba Australia  Total Posts Made: 275 # 21
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Woah, I have to admit that this is pretty damn cool. Also, that forcefield timer should be included in the vanila starcraft
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 1:34 PM BnetId: iRLpuku.580  Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 71 # 22
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does the maphack only come with the build more supply depots function or the drop function? i mean if a player just uses that function and not the rest, u definitely cant tell if he's maphacking or not.
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 6:38 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 23
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does the maphack only come with the build more supply depots function or the drop function? i mean if a player just uses that function and not the rest, u definitely cant tell if he's maphacking or not.
Yes it seems he can toggle on and off all features. Someone could use only messages helps without any possibility to be spotted in the replay.

You can also use only production tab whitch is incredibly usefull even alone. I remember some of the replays of possible hackers where the guy clearly had no vision of opponent units and structures but might have been knowing what he was building. Those were left as "not enough evidence".

But remember for every would-be hackers that ultimately Blizard catch you on and you get your account banned. Plus you will be a cheater even if you only use even one of this feature as the "build more supply" or Force Field timer.
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 1:51 PM BnetId: FaDeVenosauR.819  Race: Clan: FaDe  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 78 # 24
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how i wish i had a forcefield timer!
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As impressive as this visionhack is with all its details, it's cheating and I hope people will get banned rapidly if using this.
The stream is imo advertising his product or a customer wants to show off.
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Unread Sun, 29th-Apr-2012, 1:52 PM BnetId: ToRnicknack 470  Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 121 # 26
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I like the force field timer
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I think FF timer would help the Protoss more than everyone else haha
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that is disgusting, not only is he hacking u can tell his really slow and should be in like bronze.
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that is disgusting, not only is he hacking u can tell his really slow and should be in like bronze.
He also plays protoss!
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it would be fun if we have a custom maphack vs maphack game. where everyone has complete information. wonder how the game would turn out. haha. last time in warcraft you could turn off the fog but u cant in sc2.
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it would be fun if we have a custom maphack vs maphack game. where everyone has complete information. wonder how the game would turn out. haha. last time in warcraft you could turn off the fog but u cant in sc2.
Protoss Op. Forcefield timer too g!
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I wonder how many map hackers are in SEA and currently in GM. I suspect someone is on top 20. I will have evidence soon

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wow ive played this guy b4 many times on the Na and Sea server.. i remember because he has that weird name.. hes pretty bad tho

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I heard somewhere that people in BW used to play customs with hacks on so that they could learn all the timings and where drops/pushes/anything occurs with them being able to see it as practice, and where/how the opponents army responds. Factor in the alerts cleaning up your macro and its actually a pretty good practice tool to use with a friend i think, provided you use it sparingly as you'll begin to rely on it
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Unread Mon, 30th-Apr-2012, 6:00 AM BnetId: Delac. 680  Race: Location: Somewhere.  Total Posts Made: 59 # 37
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<downloads the maphack> Just joking It seems someone did a nice work with that program, I wonder how much time would it take to remake on from 0. I bet its a lot of time there
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Unread Mon, 30th-Apr-2012, 8:23 AM BnetId: TAXanT.665  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 230 # 38
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I've always had this theory with people creating hacks. The people who do code/make them clearly have some skill in the art of programming or maybe it's just memory tweaking I'm not too sure. But things like forcefield timers and shit like that is rather impressive in an unimpressive way. I just find it a shame that people use their talents to make hacks for onlpine games, especially games as competitive as SC2.

Always blew my mind back in the day with CS how sophisticated some of the hacks were that people got caught using and the 3000 features they had. Oh well, I found the original post disgusting but interesting nether the less.
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I think these things are disgusting. What a waste of time and effort by the programmer.

The biggest surprise for me was the production tab. That enables you to know what your opponent it building without looking at their base and giving away that you are using a map hack when viewed on the replay.

I really hope that blizzard can identify these kind of hacks and permanently bans accounts that use them.

SC is a beautiful game that truly tests your skills. Tools like this ruin the competitive nature of the game and take the fun out of it.
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Wow, I never knew that maphacks held so much power. I always imagined that it would purely grant a "no-fog" like vision over the whole map so you can tell what they are doing. That's pretty OP, but even as is, you can't use this to replace the need for solid macro and mechanics. Would still make the game a lot easier...o.O
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They should implement something along these lines in a custom game, for teaching new people, with all the tips and what not.. But I am amazed to see how much information it actually gives out..

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