[Zanderax]

Bad Manners. We all know it when we see it. People raging off their rockers at others because their play isn't as good or they are just unsportsmanlike. Sure it's fun to watch people like IdrA get some raging in at the end of his play but nobody likes it when it happens to them. It is distinctly not fun when you pull off an awesome play and the player you just beat, rather than complimenting you on cunning strategy and epic micro, decides to throw a few swears your way and bring your mother sexuality into question.

Now I'm no hero, I don't expect to lessen how much BM comes out in SC2 but I do want to pose the question: What do you consider to be BM. Raging, swearing, and insults aside, what do you find to be insulting when you play. I have come up with some starting things that I find insulting when a player loses (and sometimes wins). If you want to add to the list, just post a reply. I hope we can learn from this about what other people find insulting and try to limit that in our play.

BM when they lose:
- Insults/Raging/Swearing
- Not leaving the game eg. floating buildings/making extrators or pylons when you have no army
- No GG
- Reporting you to Blizzard for no reason (I've had it happen before)
- Brushing aside your win eg. "I was playing crap" or "I'm masters on my NA"
- False GGing

BM when they win
- Manner actions eg Building Hatches in your main, setting up pylons all in your base.
- Brushing off their win "I was playing crap" or "I failed the entire game"
- Prolonging the game needlessly
- Offensive GGing (saying gg when you're pretty sure you've won, before your opponent gg's)

I was thinking of including - Continuing the game even after you've left, but you wouldn't know so I left it out.

[x5_Potter]

Waiting to get a massive army to destroy your very last building
I think this one is silly to include, as if you have one building left, why the hell is somebody still in the game?

[FaDeBadger]

I don't think no gg is bm. If I don't feel like it was a good game, then I don't gg. Manner hatches/pylons/nexus whatever is also not bm as far as I am concerned. And as Potthead said, I think it would be considered bm of you if you are still in the game with only one building.

People put too much emphasis on bm. It's a game, they are a person potentially on the other side of the world. Who gives a shit if they think you played bad or want to rage. People need to harden the **** up and get over it.

Quick Comments

	deL:	Agreed about the gg
	Synizta:	Indeed. so annoying when i get called BM for not saying gg.
	ToRSmotPokingFish:	not saying gg isnt bm, there is no rule saying you must gg

[TABjornbrandr]

BM to me is essentially doing something in game that you wouldn't do to someone if you were face-to-face with them.
Would you abuse someone if they held off your shitty cheese when they're sitting opposite you in a booth on stage? Probably not.
Would you deliberately prolong a game if they can see you? Probably not.

Essemtially, if it would make you look like a dick in real life, then it's exactly the same on the internet.
People who hide behind the internet are BM, that's how I see it.

[deL]

I do it in real life too T_T Usually more so because it's probably a tournament or event and means more than losing a simple ladder game. It's about getting angry at myself more than my opponent though, even though it doesn't always come out that way :P

I don't think no gg/manner mules/manner buildings can be considered too BM, that's a little oversensitive. Personal or racist insults and continuing shit after the game is more likely to be BM.

[crAzerk]

"Prolonging the game needlessly"

This doesn't seem to be BM on the winner's side - he could just not be clear about how much ahead he is and wants to play it safe, in case there's hidden expos, etc.
More often than not, this is on the loser's side - why are you not GG-ing out when you are clearly behind?

[TABjornbrandr]

Originally Posted by crAzerk

"Prolonging the game needlessly"

This doesn't seem to be BM on the winner's side - he could just not be clear about how much ahead he is and wants to play it safe, in case there's hidden expos, etc.
More often than not, this is on the loser's side - why are you not GG-ing out when you are clearly behind?

Whilst the meaning of the statement is open to personal interpretation, I would assume that if you are unsure of your advantage, that would not be classified as needlessly prolonging the game, but rather as playing the game safe. If, however, you knew your opponent was pretty gone, then screwing around for longer than needed could be considered BM, especially in a tournament setting where schedules are generally quite tight and need to be adhered to as much as possible.

[Pox]

While I see a gg as more of a respectful custom than as a literal acknowledgement of a good game, not gging isn't a big deal - some people do it, some don't. Comments like "I was playing poorly" can be hurtful, but often it's just the truth, so I'm on the fence with that one. Any straight-up insults are obviously bm.

[inFeZa]

I hear ZergGirl knows a thing or two about BM .. n_n

I try to keep my manner when im under my name in a 1v1, if its a team game, then all BM breaks loose

[Meatex]

prolonging the game needlessly is absolutely 100% bm
in fact i'd say one of the worse forms of bm

Why?
Because I get so little time to actually play i don't want to spend 30 minutes ending a game that finished in 10 minutes. Its utterly disrespectful and makes me want to punch the opponent in the dick.

Name calling can be shrugged off easily
I cannot get that wasted time back and its not even worthy of calling it practice

Now if it is a position where a comeback is slightly possible okay
But if I have a base surrounded by spores and spines (actually 2 other hidden bases as well) and a big roach hydra army killing all the buildings you don't try to rebuild a hidden base you gg out.
And that game was over well before that was happening

[FYRE]

Coming from a Halo background, good manner is one of the most foreign concepts I have come across in the Starcraft 2 scene. Playing Halo 2/3/Reach online, everyone would insult the shit out of the opposite team, smacktalking them not because we were angry, but because it was FUN. I don't think BM should ever be taken seriously, as its almost never genuinely directed at the player themselves, but is a result of rage/fun/boredom.

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ZC.EvilSWAT:

I used to play Halo competitively, and I agree that SOME types of BM are made in jest. (We know your momma ain't really fat. Right?)

[Cute]

Originally Posted by SQLTt.inFeZa

I hear ZergGirl knows a thing or two about BM .. n_n

I try to keep my manner when im under my name in a 1v1, if its a team game, then all BM breaks loose

I don't play team games too often, but from what I gather, being BM in 2v2/3v3/4v4 is a highly desirable skill to possess

[ZC.EvilSWAT]

Bah, all your mommas are so fat that there's not enough space in this thread to describe her.

[TAavanar]

Originally Posted by FaDeMeatex

prolonging the game needlessly is absolutely 100% bm
in fact i'd say one of the worse forms of bm

Why?
Because I get so little time to actually play i don't want to spend 30 minutes ending a game that finished in 10 minutes. Its utterly disrespectful and makes me want to punch the opponent in the dick.

Name calling can be shrugged off easily
I cannot get that wasted time back and its not even worthy of calling it practice

Now if it is a position where a comeback is slightly possible okay
But if I have a base surrounded by spores and spines (actually 2 other hidden bases as well) and a big roach hydra army killing all the buildings you don't try to rebuild a hidden base you gg out.
And that game was over well before that was happening

If you hate people prolonging the game when your the one whos behind, why arent you leaving. If they are that far ahead that they are '"prolonging" the game why arent you out of the game?
I also hate people who dont say GG, i dont care if it wasnt an actual good game, does it hurt for you to type gg before you leave a game? GG doesnt actually mean it was a good game in most cases, it means i surrender you win.

Quick Comments

	Meatex:	comprehend before calling out please
	mGGDaedalus:	you read it backwards mate
	Bielsko:	GG actually does mean good game... and I only say it when my opponent wins and not when I lose from silly mistakes.

[DeekZ]

I'd consider myself a pretty BM player. I don't take losing well so if I lose to something super cheesy or gimmicky I tend to rage. xD

I leave most games on ladder without gg'ing even if I'm not raging. I look at "gg" as a respectful custom, not as something I have to do and leaving without gg'ing shouldn't be considered BM, especially if it wasn't a good game. Same with "glhf" I don't personally give a shit if the person I'm vs'ing is having fun and I certainly don't want them to get lucky lol.

In my opinion the following things should be considered BM:
Raging in-game/insulting
Extending lost games (and by this I mean flying away buildings after you lose to a ground rush)
Offensive GGing (saying gg when you're pretty sure you've won, before your opponent gg's)

[mGGDaedalus]

Ladder is much less personal than say a clan custom game or tourney or something, I don't think rage is such a big deal in ladder games. If someone rages at me, I usually feel good because I played well enough to make them mad.

As for myself, since I know I have a tendency to rage when I'm in a bad mood, I generally adopt a silence policy on ladder and don't gl hf so that I don't seem rude when I don't gg. It really doesn't matter anyway, unless you strike up a random conversation with your opponent for some reason (if I chat to my opponent then I'd feel bad not gg'ing)

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Rockstar:

[Zanderax]

New ones added!

Also by prolonging the game I mean something like this:
You have 5 or 6 bases and he is confined to just 2. You have a 170/200 army but you wait to get a Mothership or kill off your own units to kill him in the best way possible.

That said the other person should just GG. It more of a shared thing.

[EveMassacrisM]

I consider Terran flying their shit off, landing CCs and making PFs then massing Barracks at a random location after his main getting roflstomped bm. Hell, I would totally call out their moms' sexuality and verbally abuse them afterwards.

[DeekZ]

The thing about BM is that it doesn't matter at all, if you get raged at and insulted you should just feel good, I know when someone calls me trash and insults the race I play I just laugh and ask them if they're mad and when I insult someone on ladder after I've lost its just a mini release of anger, which helps me going in to my next game. I don't BM in clan games or friendly customs.. you'd have to be a pretty huge douche to insult a clan mate, at least in a non-joking around way.

Honestly I think 'e-sports' would be better off if people just forgot about the term "BM" and didn't care about it, as we all know from watching players like IdrA and Destiny trash talking just makes everything more entertaining and in other sports trash talking is a great thing.

It's a real stretch to call some of the things in this thread BM, like not killing your opponent just because you're way ahead, not saying glhf and not gg'ing isn't BM, at least on ladder and "brushing aside your win/loss" is definitely not BM lol, at least not in the way I'm picturing it.

[UncleTom]

Sticks and stones can break your bones but words can never hurt you.

[EveVendetta]

I GG every single game, even when I'm pissed off after a match. I feel that losing to cheese or proxy gates is only the result of my own carelessness, and I also get damn frustrated after consecutive losses.

But I also know that every game I lose is cos of my own mistakes/opponent played better than me, so I force myself to think about how I could have won that match instead of ' 1-1-1 is imba, Z and T are imba'

To people who really BM (e.g. insult after game) i basically just lose respect for them but yeah I don't consider not GG-ing / manner mules BM at all.

Quick Comments

	EveJeonSa:	repp
	neon:	agree
	FaDeBadger:

[ProAnnn]

I GG most of my games. Sometimes i will not gg if i feel that i screw very very badly. Like when i lose focus and lost purely because i forgot my 1st zealot in PvZ(how does that happens) or i get my entire army surrounded by lings without knowing it(its damn retarded).

I normally manner nexus if my opponent float his buildings or refuse to leave after losing all his workers or something.

[MeaNySPR]

i bm every protoss player that all ins. otherwise i always gg out of my game.

[Imperial]

Lol @ bm in sc2, "sweet mother of god he didnt say gg (without actually meaning it) after a defeat HOLY ******* SHIT", really this is small stuff and i find it funny when people scream 'bm'. I always gg because it makes me feel calmer after my dreams are crushed, although i usually get the same in return i dont care if someone doesnt gg or doesnt acknowledge my 'glhf', everyone is so mannered in sc2 that abusive behaviour is almost non-existant and i think some people are paying far too much attention to minor things like a casual "**** you" or "<insert insult regarding strategy used by you here>"

[Frogmite]

Warning, i write this post after having a bit too much of alcohol

Actually i believe that SC2 is a game very difficult, because it's 1v1 stuff, so when you lose it's because you're weaker. It's not because your team work is not good or anything like that. Starcraft 2 involves players at 100%, that's why you SC2 is a bit elititst. It's not easy to put yourself in the line when you play video games.

Games like FPS or AOS games are very popular these days, because it's team games. Team games are easier, you don't put your own pride in the front row. So you lose because your team is weaker, not because you are. Easier to assume as a player.

SC2 it's Man(or Woman) stuff, you're alone, and that makes the beauty of this game.

So i understand that today there is a lot of bad mannered players, nobody likes to lose, and being behind a screen gives wings to some of the players in terms of bad manners.

So yeah, there will always be a lot of bad mannered players, but if you're a Man, you won't care what they ******* try to say/do, because you know that you love this game and what you're doing is right.

[Starcyph3r]

Tbh I actually enjoy receiving bm. I think its one of the great joys of playing starcraft. The more bm they get the more satisfying the win. The bmer is reduced to an infant, throwing a tantrum verbally, unable to accept your superiority, while you the victor simply sit back in your chair and laugh as your 'op' deatball tears through the fruits of his labour. That said, I too am also a bmer at times :P

[SLCN.NXZ]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Warning, i write this post after having a bit too much of alcohol

Actually i believe that SC2 is a game very difficult, because it's 1v1 stuff, so when you lose it's because you're weaker. It's not because your team work is not good or anything like that. Starcraft 2 involves players at 100%, that's why you SC2 is a bit elititst. It's not easy to put yourself in the line when you play video games.

Games like FPS or AOS games are very popular these days, because it's team games. Team games are easier, you don't put your own pride in the front row. So you lose because your team is weaker, not because you are. Easier to assume as a player.

SC2 it's Man(or Woman) stuff, you're alone, and that makes the beauty of this game.

So i understand that today there is a lot of bad mannered players, nobody likes to lose, and being behind a screen gives wings to some of the players in terms of bad manners.

So yeah, there will always be a lot of bad mannered players, but if you're a Man, you won't care what they ******* try to say/do, because you know that you love this game and what you're doing is right.

That's what I love about sc2, you win and your opponent can't just be like, "my team sucks, blah blah" they have to look at themselves and figure out how to get better. Makes for a much nicer community imo. Granted they can still blame it on imbalance but you can do that in some other games too (DotA comes to mind).

[ZergGirl]

Originally Posted by SQLTt.inFeZa

I hear ZergGirl knows a thing or two about BM .. n_n

I try to keep my manner when im under my name in a 1v1, if its a team game, then all BM breaks loose

I've been abused plenty but if you are implying i'm BM after a game..? the worst I've done is left with no GG. (after being spammed with chat in-game then 4 gated, followed by 'Oh typical girl gamer, cant hold a simple 4 gate' - zealot 4 gate zzz)

Please find a game where I mouth off thx ;p

Originally Posted by UncleTom

Sticks and stones can break your bones but words can never hurt you.

You'd be amazed at what can and can't hurt you.

[cruxBsK]

got BM'ed by Danny the other day when I fkn owned him. true story.

[Volition]

In the past i have been a pretty bad BM'r. Thinking on it now, i felt like i was much better than the player, and that they had done some dirty strat to beat me that took less skill than the manner in which i was playing. Oh how naive - I am better now, but i understand the people that occasionally are so frustrated that leave without a gg (which i dont think is bm at all, there is no rulebook that says you have to gg every game).

My personal fun, which i think makes me a bad man, is that when i get BM'd i continue the discussion after the game. I know the rage they are feeling, so egging them on with a few choice comments seems alright. In their own time, the BM'r will understand they arent better than everyone, and they are acting like a wanker. But it only comes when you consider your own BM in your past.

For example, i had a game this morning, a TvZ. i did a bit of fake bunker pressure to force lings, into dopuble reactor hellion expand. the guy went mental, cut drones at 25, and tried to roach ling me twice or three times. i got the hellions and Thors up, got to about 180 supply, grabbed 10 scvs to repair and went for the push back. after it works, he starts telling me "ALL IN SO CHEAP" and that "THATS NOT SKILL TERRAN OP UR BAD". I feel it was my moral resposibility to keep him going after the game. How can you just no egg him on and feed the rage?

does that make me a bad man?

[TABjornbrandr]

One thing that people aren't taking into account is the actual definition of manners.
A lot of people above are writing that people are too sensitive about what they define as BM, so on and so forth, but if you literally see BM as being bad manners, then not saying "hfgl" could easily be construed as bad mannered, just as not shaking hands with your opponent in a football match, etc., most certainly is. Whether or not it is arrogant or offensive in Starcraft 2 is another matter given that it is over the internet and as such a lot less personal.

[Eldrid]

I will offensive GG and manner hatch and stuff when i've won - eg: i have 5 mining bases with units in their main and they arent mining and have no army. srsly, why you still in the game? But yeah. Other than that, usually mannered. If im having a bad run / day as seems to happen too often -_-; i might rant about something being OP but this doesnt happen very often, and it's never bm about that particular person... just blowing off steam...

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Originally Posted by UncleTom

Sticks and stones can break your bones but words can never hurt you.

Is this your excuse for all your BM? That everyone else needs to toughen up and just take it?

As for what actually constitutes BM... I would agree with Bjornbrandr, BM is bad manners, which includes things like no 'glhf' or 'gg'. It's a sign that you actually respect the other player. Sure, it might suck when you get all-ined and lose, but they still played better than you, it was a game and they were good at it, so why no 'gg'?

As for the holding on for too long, sure, it may be obvious from the winners side that they are massively ahead, but from the losers side it can be harder to tell. They generally don't have enough information to make the call. I know I've extended games 20 minutes longer than I probably should have simply because it was still fairly even. The opponent was winning all the way, but if they slipped up, or I got lucky, I could snag the win. Doesn't happen often, but it's always worth a shot.

[krycek]

ummm bit divided on the gg part, many have stated that they see the "gg" as a respectful comment, but admit that if they lost cause they stuffed up or just dnt feel like it it's ok. Sure GG isnt imposed with a jail term, but as you have stated gg is respectful/ therefor no gg is disrespectful=bm.

Is like please and thank you, some of you are young ( most on sc2 are young) and this kind of mannerisms arent reflected in real life, thus majority dnt use these conventions in a game.

oh and just because you stuffed up doesnt mean that there should be no gg cause you were the one at fault, they won the match fair and square.

TL;DR Suck it up fellas( pride issues) and congratulate them on there game if they beat you and say GG.
If you lose bow out with grace and be the bigger man

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by Bjornbrandr

One thing that people aren't taking into account is the actual definition of manners.
A lot of people above are writing that people are too sensitive about what they define as BM, so on and so forth, but if you literally see BM as being bad manners, then not saying "hfgl" could easily be construed as bad mannered, just as not shaking hands with your opponent in a football match, etc., most certainly is. Whether or not it is arrogant or offensive in Starcraft 2 is another matter given that it is over the internet and as such a lot less personal.

By that same token I can refute everything you just said by having a different definition of bm. This is exactly why people don't agree on things like no gg or no glhf as being bm or not.

90% of my games I don't gl hf because it's simply not true, I don't want them to be lucky or have fun. I'm playing the game for me and solely for me. If I win, or lose but still think it's a good game, I will gg (note: I don't mean offensive gg I mean in response to theirs). But I'm not going to throw out a meaningless pleasantry just because it might be seen as rude if I don't.

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

But I'm not going to throw out a meaningless pleasantry just because it might be seen as rude if I don't.

>.< How old are you Badger? The point is to not look rude, the point is to show respect to your opponent.

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by Bugalugs McScruffin

>.< How old are you Badger? The point is to not look rude, the point is to show respect to your opponent.

Not that it makes any difference to the conversation but I'm 23. Why should I 'show' respect to some random scrub on the ladder when in actual fact I probably have none. I don't care if they think I'm the rudest person they've ever played against, good for them.

For the record, I don't say please or thank you in real life unless I mean it, why should Starcraft be any different?

[UncleTom]

Originally Posted by Bugalugs McScruffin

Is this your excuse for all your BM? That everyone else needs to toughen up and just take it?

I'm not BM, I always say gl hf or gg even if the other person is being less then delightful. If I'm talking in chat channel, obviously it is different but you probably assume tone and context of the things I say and label it as trolling(different from BM in my opinion), which is the trouble of the internet. I'm sure it is common sense that everyone is different and defining and discussing such a broad subject should always be meet with a little common sense.

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Bugalugs McScruffin:

I gotta say that's one of the most reasonable posts in this thread. :)

[ToRDeathsFang]

UncleTom isn't a bm person, he's just a very, very, very, very, VERY weird and disturbed troll who likes inducing anger in people

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

Not that it makes any difference to the conversation but I'm 23. Why should I 'show' respect to some random scrub on the ladder when in actual fact I probably have none. I don't care if they think I'm the rudest person they've ever played against, good for them.

For the record, I don't say please or thank you in real life unless I mean it, why should Starcraft be any different?

I agree that you shouldn't say please or thank you if you don't mean it. I'd suggest that you might need to mean it more often than you do. But whatever, each to their own.

As to the age comment, I would expect at by about mid-twenties people would start to learn a bit of respect for people in general. Unfortunately that age is up from mid-teens 10 years ago. :/

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krycek:

[TABjornbrandr]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

By that same token I can refute everything you just said by having a different definition of bm. This is exactly why people don't agree on things like no gg or no glhf as being bm or not.

90% of my games I don't gl hf because it's simply not true, I don't want them to be lucky or have fun. I'm playing the game for me and solely for me. If I win, or lose but still think it's a good game, I will gg (note: I don't mean offensive gg I mean in response to theirs). But I'm not going to throw out a meaningless pleasantry just because it might be seen as rude if I don't.

I'm not saying that's my definition of BM, I'm saying that someone could construe the term "bad mannered" in that way and as such perceive a large portion of the responses in this thread as supporting "bad manners".
If you're wondering what I actually think, I'd be more inclined to say that saying 'hfgl' and 'gg' are good mannered, but not saying them isn't necessarily bad mannered, but rather a personal choice.

[ZergGirl]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

Not that it makes any difference to the conversation but I'm 23. Why should I 'show' respect to some random scrub on the ladder when in actual fact I probably have none. I don't care if they think I'm the rudest person they've ever played against, good for them.

For the record, I don't say please or thank you in real life unless I mean it, why should Starcraft be any different?

I see it as 'shaking hands' before a game.
GG to me is just admitting defeat to the better player on the day.

It doesn't bother me, but it isn't nice to snub people.
(not you personally, just in general)

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Bugalugs McScruffin:

ZergGirl gets being mannered. :)

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by ZergGirl

I see it as 'shaking hands' before a game.
GG to me is just admitting defeat to the better player on the day.

It doesn't bother me, but it isn't nice to snub people.
(not you personally, just in general)

I understand how people see it that way, I'm just saying that I don't. If it's a tournament game I'll gg, glhf, whatever cause it's different to ladder.

If it is ladder, I couldn't care at all and will do it as and when I see fit.

[Zanderax]

I'd just like to point out that people have said they don't respect the other person if they win off me screwing up. In the entire history of Starcraft. Nobody has played a perfect game. It's impossible. The winner is the person that makes the least/best mistakes.

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Bugalugs McScruffin:

If I screw up they still win.

[TASlowHands]

The most annoying thing for me is Terran floating buildings around and not leaving games and general building hatches/pylons everywhere. Otherwise BM is funny as hell.

I am always respectful of my opponents, I do rage but do so privately or with people irl who find my rage amusing. Having said that the second someone abuses me online or cries op then I go into full BM troll mode and just verbally rip shreads out of their playstyle and idiocy. I only BM people that start it.

[RicocheT]

BM for me, might mutter a few words in game, but besides that I normally glhf at the start of each game.
If I'm pissed off when I lose (which is pretty much everytime I lose), I leave without GGing. Hate losing.
Anyway, it's too much effort in BMing someone. Rather go watch/analyse the replay and see how I lost instead of raging at some random dude's playstyle.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by ZergGirl

You'd be amazed at what can and can't hurt you.

Indeed.

It was unfortunately popular among assholes at a certain time to say "Die" or "I hope your mother dies of cancer", right at the beginning of a game (or after) before cheesing you to disturb you, or just "for fun".

The best friend of my son, who is 12 years old and is playing SC2 with him, have in fact his mother affected with non-curable cancer for real. So when one bastard says that online, I think about this poor kid that must have heard it regularly too and I report him systematically and warning him I do : "Real live threat => report". Generally they stop BMing like that immediately and I'm pretty sure they stop for a moment for the next games.

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mGGDaedalus:

Cleaning up the streets one nerd at a time

[biogenie]

Just got BM-ed pretty hard...

ZvZ as you all know is a pretty high apm all action COIN FLIP style.. And I know its embarrassing for a "plat/dia" level player to miss his rally into your opponent's base but come on it happens...

The player went on to say: Smart Rally B!TCH time for me to clear your brains out.

Oh guess what he went roach where I went quick expand, into Roach Ling timing... And he went Mutas..... LawL i guess... To beat him.. is sweet.. but he went on saying sh!t... I wish there was a mute button for chat..

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ZergGirl:

'Clear your brains out' sounds like a line from a cheesy porno.

[Rythos]

Originally Posted by biogenie

I wish there was a mute button for chat..

Just in case you're unaware, there is a button to ignore other players if you bring up the message log screen during a game. Probably not exactly what you're after, but at least you can shut someone up if they start being an idiot during a match.

[TASlowHands]

Originally Posted by biogenie

Just got BM-ed pretty hard...

ZvZ as you all know is a pretty high apm all action COIN FLIP style.. And I know its embarrassing for a "plat/dia" level player to miss his rally into your opponent's base but come on it happens...

The player went on to say: Smart Rally B!TCH time for me to clear your brains out.

Oh guess what he went roach where I went quick expand, into Roach Ling timing... And he went Mutas..... LawL i guess... To beat him.. is sweet.. but he went on saying sh!t... I wish there was a mute button for chat..

Lol, dont worry about that douche. I've had opponents in masters lead a drone charge at me because they misrallied before, shit happens. For the record there is a mute button hit F11 and then click a box in the bottom left I think. I do it if someone is hardcore BM right at the start because I wanna focus on the game

[FvRsolis]

I always GG, even if it is cheese and especially if my cheese fails.

But I bm gg and I do smack talk if the person won't leave when I've clearly won (i.e I've killed 2 bases and he turtles in his main at like 15 minutes)... but other than that, I don't really bm.

[syfChase]

A couple of times I've had players say absolutely nothing within the game, and after I beat them they just go Afk until I've wiped out all of their buildings. It's very annoying @_@

[Loach]

In team games - BM is necessary... If i BM them.. they get mad at me and charge at me without coordination and we crush them.. all u have to do is get them talking - this works all the way to master league players in team (master team = ~ bronze 1v1)

In 1v1: Sure people might consider some things "bm".. but this whole prolonging the game argument.. if u float ur buildings or hide structures when there is no chance of a comeback, then its BM.. but if you're doing it because u went for a base race and managed to slip out, that's not BM that's quick thinking.. and I don't think there is any "proloning the game" if you're on the winning side... you're not forcing your opponent to stay in the game, they are free to leave at any point..... who waits until their entire base is destroyed before leaving? I know I dont..

"GG": 90%+ of games don't end in a gg anymore, does that mean all those people have BM? Or does it just mean that typing gg doesn't mean anything.. as far as the "it means I surrender".. no it doesnt, leaving the game does...

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

I don't think no gg is bm. If I don't feel like it was a good game, then I don't gg. Manner hatches/pylons/nexus whatever is also not bm as far as I am concerned. And as Potthead said, I think it would be considered bm of you if you are still in the game with only one building.

People put too much emphasis on bm. It's a game, they are a person potentially on the other side of the world. Who gives a shit if they think you played bad or want to rage. People need to harden the **** up and get over it.

What he said.

[Xara]

I usually don't BM, but it does sometimes happen if I'm having a bad day, and is more prone to happen whenever I get stuck playing a ZvZ or RvR (You don't want to see when my RvRs roll ZvZs.)

I've also had it happen to me in the past, though strangely less recently, mostly just half of all the people I beat leaving without a gg.

All of the following I've had happen before.

Originally Posted by ToRZanderax

BM when they lose:
- Insults/Raging/Swearing
- Not leaving the game eg. floating buildings/making extrators or pylons when you have no army
- No GG
- Reporting you to Blizzard for no reason (I've had it happen before)

BM when they win
- Manner actions eg Building Hatches in your main, setting up pylons all in your base.
- Prolonging the game needlessly
- Offensive GGing (saying gg when you're pretty sure you've won, before your opponent gg's)

Most of the rage that was directed at me before usually included insults against my race (Random) and how it supposedly has an imbalanced intel advantage.

Though I do remember a game where I played Terran and used the high-ground Watchtowers on Nerazim Crypt to station Tanks up there and blow away the unsuspecting Zerg army below. Opponent immediately stated they were going to report me for maphacking and leaves the game in a fit of rage. Fun stuff.

Also no one seems to know how to offensive gg correctly. Half of the offensive gg's I get are from positions that I could (and have) actually fight back against, and there have been times where I was stuck in a unwinnable position, but then they threw the gg and got complacent, allowing me to catch back up.

Originally Posted by ToRZanderax

"I'm masters on my NA"

From my experience on the NA ladder in comparison to what I've seen and heard of the SEA/KR ladder, this seems to be more of an insult to yourself than to the opponent.

[TASlowHands]

Haha I had a classic last night.

''Your micro is shit but congrats anyway, ggwp.''

I just whispered him after ''im chatting with mates irl, on an account I dont care about and I really need a poo and yet you still lost to my micro''

NA server of course