[TAEaeron]

Originally Posted by rezyn8

Re-scheduling games is unfair to those who have accepted and committed to the League's official game night and the admins running the show and casters with increased management and committing to extra work outside official league timings.

Completely agree with this!!!
When agreeing to partake in the SEACL#2 I understood that I no longer hav Thursday nights to myself for 2 months, I instead get to spend it with the like of Chadman/Edarus and such.

I can understand if some members of a team cannot make it, but no team on the roster only has 5 players, it might be the best team that you can put out, but at least you have a team.

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	breadfan:	well said
	nirvAnA:

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Hey TAEaeron,

Will be interesting to see what the Admin's say about this, but here's my views on the issues.

Originally Posted by TAEaeron

I know that I may be stirring the pot, but hey I have a spoon!

I have a couple of questions based on the W/O rulings

1) Will the W/O be handed to the team that was logged in on the Thursday, if no reschedule can be organised?
I know that opening rules post says: I feel this could infact assist the team that is unable to show on the Thursday night.

Any players that are not present on the Thursday night will be walkovered if there is no reschedule. There is the possibility for walkovers to occur for both teams.

Originally Posted by TAEaeron

2) If say 5 players for 1 team and 3 for the other team are on, are the games able to be played?
- If so, will the last two games be played at a later date if possible?
- Will the order of those games be Game1/Game2/Game3 or will they be able to choose ie (we will play Game3/Game4/Ace Match) as that's the players that we have on?

Any games that can be played will be played. I assume that the matchups that are online will be played as they are the ones that were posted. If you have anyone not there you will not be able to choose which games people play, it is decided before hand when you submit your roster. It could end up that you have everyone except your Ace player and the Ace match is a walkover. Or you only have your Ace player and so only the Ace match is played and all other matches are walkovers.

Originally Posted by TAEaeron

3) How long is given before a W/O is announced (not in the rules list in op or the Rules/Format Thread)?

This is an interesting question and I would like to know the Admin's ruling. Personally if I was an Admin I would be tempted to give a zero-tolerance ruling (ie. At the specified time if a player is not there a walkover is given.) Players should be ready at the time of their match. Players should be jumping online 15-30 minutes before their match to make sure they are ready and that the rest of their team is ready.

Originally Posted by TAEaeron

4) How early does a re-schedule have to be announced?
- Can the announcements be put in the weekly thread (assume there is one, if not happy to help out with doing such a thing)?

Reschedules need to be announced at least 24 hours before the match. This was posted in the Rules/Format thread I believe.

Originally Posted by TAEaeron

I know that we are trying to get as many games/teams playing as possible.
It does get a little annoying not knowing what nights to logon though.

Just noticed that this is a longish post sorry guys!

Don't worry about the longish post.

I believe this should work as any other sport. You have your match day that you make or you don't. You don't reschedule. In the case of playing against a Singaporean or New Zealand team, maybe shift it forward or back an hour to accommodate, but this would need to be announced at the beginning of the week. The less rescheduling occurring the better for everyone. As rezyn stated, it's a league, so you should rock up when the games are on. I have two other places I could be on a Thursday night, which is why I didn't enter the BSGCL, but I have made a commitment to play in this league on a Thursday night.

EDIT: Haha, it looks like we agree on this last part.

[rezyn8]

Dear Mr Mann,

Could you please add the following player to the FaDe BSG Ballers roster:

deadpixel.725 - After discussion with The Chad, because of laddering on NA (where he has reached platinum) his league for this event will be considered Gold

Thank you!

Much

[krycek]

so i'll ask again as my post was buried >.< is there a set limit on the number of plats in a round that are played?

also as an edit as Huk is a diamond player ( bit unfair in this division as i agreed with rezyn8,

[rezyn8]

No I don't believe so

[rezyn8]

Also - official rules from nirVaNa: http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3276

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by TCPkrycek

so i'll ask again as my post was buried >.< is there a set limit on the number of plats in a round that are played?

No but we will probably force a line up change every week / couple weeks so that everyone gets a go and the team isn't always so stacked if they have many players.

[Halstrom]

This might have already been covered, but seeing as line-ups are named days before, how will late changes be handled/allowed. This IS the lowest tier after all, and if someone commits to a Thursday game on Saturday but has some issue arise in those 5 days it is a bit harsh to just walk that spot over.

TLDR = 1/. Are late changes to lineups allowed, and how?, and 2/. Should the concept of a "named emergency" be introduced to prevent silly walkovers (after all even pro sports have this concept)?

[krycek]

so just to confirm the changes to the TCP line-up
replacing
TCPmathmick with NaroZilla. 994

(staytuned)
also need admin feed back on Huk inclusion in this tourney?

[breadfan]

I don't think that linups are named days before in this tier

[krycek]

Originally Posted by breadfan

I don't think that linups are named days before in this tier

i read the link ryzen8 sent me its 24 hours for tier 5
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3276

[x5_Potter]

ChadMann and Maynarde have decided that in Tier 5 line-ups will be told to the admins on the night of play, before matches begin. Both teams tell the admin their line-up, then the admins will ok the line-up and say them in chat(I believe) then games can start.

[breadfan]

Oh ok, I know that Chad specifically said that it was a rule they were looking at and that the plan was to allow greater leniency in this tier. I guess what's specifically stated is the go, though

[syfChadMann]

Okay.. okay.. hold up everyone, nirvAnA and Frogmite developed a rule set (generic for all tiers) and then quickly adapted for some of the tiers.. HOWEVER, Maynarde and I are permitted to customise these rules. We have been taking suggestions from other tier admins as how to do this, and have a reasonable idea of what we are going to do... but Mr Maynarde, has been rather busy the last few days with work. So he and I have not had the chance to finalise how the rules will work.

Please stay tuned, something will be up tonight or tomorrow about this. so no need to worry about what is written now, a new rule set for tier 5 will be available soon. As I said in my earlier post, this will cover match line ups, times for matches, subs and many other things to give this tier greater flexibility.

Also, default start time might be sliding back to 9pm AEDT. However, as with last season, if both managers agree that they would like to play on Saturday at 4pm thats fine, or when ever - as long as it is before the following Wednesday. Last season, most managers were very accommodating and allowed teams to reorganise the play time. Do it amongst yourselfs, then post in this thread the rescheduled time. If one manager is trying to get free wins and is stubborn about when you play then it will soon become known, and when that manager tries to reschedule a match, no one will want to help them. So be nice, work it out. and gl hf

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x5_Potter:

400 rep! Thanks for the constant updates :)

[x5_Potter]

Or you could just ignore me cos I didn't read the other thread first! :P Maynarde says it's 24hours before-hand now and there is a sub allowed for no-shows, but the same race is required. Sorry for confusing you

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by TAEaeron

Completely agree with this!!!
When agreeing to partake in the SEACL#2 I understood that I no longer hav Thursday nights to myself for 2 months, I instead get to spend it with the like of Chadman/Edarus and such.

I can understand if some members of a team cannot make it, but no team on the roster only has 5 players, it might be the best team that you can put out, but at least you have a team.

To be perfectly fair... thursdays were not mentioned until well after signups, so it's not fair to discriminate against people who can't make that day either.

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krycek:

true iv had several players made redundant because of this (mathmick, naviC)

[rezyn8]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

To be perfectly fair... thursdays were not mentioned until well after signups, so it's not fair to discriminate against people who can't make that day either.

Regardless - it has been agreed by the majority that Thursdays are the set day for the fixture. Without a good reason, and I do mean a very good reason, the fixture should be played on the Thursday.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by rezyn8

Regardless - it has been agreed by the majority that Thursdays are the set day for the fixture. Without a good reason, and I do mean a very good reason, the fixture should be played on the Thursday.

yeah.. But we are allowing people to reschedule their matches if they need too (if notice is given in advance)...

Stay tuned, we will have something for you all soon!

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rezyn8:

Thanks Mann!

[syfChadMann]

Also, after discussing with Frogmite, he has agreed that it would be best to move HuK.916 up to TCP's tier 4 team. He has been removed from TCP's Tier 5 team.

[rezyn8]

Chad - could you please update the following players:

FaDeMrBadass.607
Excuses.859

Cheers