[sREnigma]

So I was playing on my bros account when I came across this diamond player called Sacred who played pretty weird. I noticed he didn't probe scout which is not too odd (but odd enough to make me think something weird was up hence me asking if he was cheezin). Then later on he would do things like find hidden Zerglings around his third and always seemed to know where my army was without any obs. So I thought that was weird. I sent a few lings here and there and tried to see how long it took for him to find them. By the end of the game I was pretty sure he was maphacking. So then I watched the replay... And it's so blatantly obvious he doesn't even attempt to hide that he cheats.

http://drop.sc/265588

1:29ish: Looks over at my base for a split second. No big deal, just an overlord.

Around 2:30 he makes a pylon, cancels it, throws down a forge for no reason. Nothing to do with Maphacks but just shows how bad these players can be and still get top 8 diamond or masters.

2:40 looks at my base again, this time for a few seconds. Hasn't even scouted where I've spawned yet.

3:10 and 3:38 Looks again.
He looks over at my a base so many times. I don't think it's necessary to list all the times he does. just watch it in his POV.

4:14 Rallies a stalker in the direction of my overlord. And right before the stalker pops, spamming rally right next to my overlord which is still in fog.

5:25 Sends stalker to intercept a scouting ling in fog.

6:55 Right clicks right on top of a ling. At this point once i saw up his ramp I thought he really was silver.

9:08 looks at my lings in fog. 9:11 Chases my ling at his 3rd hidden in fog.

10:00 Units retreat as lings he didn't see are incoming.

11:05 Looks at my lings, again.

I think by now you will see it's pretty obvious.

18:12 He finds the ling I hid. Notice he still hasn't even seen any of my buildings or where I spawned and doesn't for the whole game.

19:05 Goes up to kill my lings. There is plenty more of this but I cbf finding more... so that will do.

Damn now you all know my smurf.

[sREnigma]

So I just played against another maphacker a couple of games after the last one on my same account(see previous post). This is textbook stuff... proxy 2 gate no scouting on 4 player map. constantly looks at my base. Apparently they are too lazy to hide that they maphack in the lower leagues. I don't think it's necessary to show where it looks like he is maphacking because it's pretty blatant from the start but I will do it anyway if I have to. I knew he was maphacking straight away because well.. I'm a genius. But if you are on a 4 or even 2 player map and a probe scout never comes it means something is up. Even bronze probe scout. Most of the time after pylon in zvp.

http://drop.sc/266042 here is the replay.

edit: Account name is abking.

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	Zealo:	put his account name in the post so others can search for replays
	mGGNemesis:	wait! I had a replay with him doing a 2v2 I submitted earlier (see above)

[mGGNemesis]

Originally Posted by sREnigma

So I just played against another maphacker a couple of games after the last one on my same account(see previous post). This is textbook stuff... proxy 2 gate no scouting on 4 player map. constantly looks at my base. Apparently they are too lazy to hide that they maphack in the lower leagues. I don't think it's necessary to show where it looks like he is maphacking because it's pretty blatant from the start but I will do it anyway if I have to. I knew he was maphacking straight away because well.. I'm a genius. But if you are on a 4 or even 2 player map and a probe scout never comes it means something is up. Even bronze probe scout. Most of the time after pylon in zvp.

http://drop.sc/266042 here is the replay.

edit: Account name is abking.

I submitted a replay of him hacking earlier (was a 2v2 replay); it's in an earlier post.

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Nemo:

I planned to watch the whole don't worry. :)

[FSBuu]

there are several others but i cant name them O.O

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mGGAequitas:

please don't spam

[Manly]

One does not simply 2 gate proxy in Tal'Darim.
Proxy-ing 2 gate in Tal'Darim is really silly.
He click on the place where i proxy pylon him.
His Nick is Whiteluxury

[JDGaga]

Yea I just played Sacred;; 3 times, he didnt drone scout, when i 6pooled he walled the top of his ramp with forge and cannon, with NO scouting at all, he looked around my base with his camera, very quick about it, but still did it in all games.

edit: uploaded the 6pool game where it is very obvious

[Zealo]

Originally Posted by IrisJD

Yea I just played Sacred;; 3 times, he didnt drone scout, when i 6pooled he walled the top of his ramp with forge and cannon, with NO scouting at all, he looked around my base with his camera, very quick about it, but still did it in all games.

edit: uploaded the 6pool game where it is very obvious

Originally Posted by sREnigma

So I was playing on my bros account when I came across this diamond player called Sacred who played pretty weird...
http://drop.sc/265588

...

i did a search and found a replay vs sacred, it is incredibly obvious he is hacking.

http://drop.sc/273235

just the major points:

spends the entire game looking into fog at my base or at my overlords (sends a queen way off creep to kill an unseen ovie at one point)

sends first overlord cross position on shakuras, doesn't drone scout or actually scout me with overlord at any point, doesn't put any overlords on the attack path.

with no scouting or vision of anything, he goes 13 pool and makes a spine as soon as it's finished (i think he sees one of my overlords (to 'know' my race) just after he throws down the spine. this is clearly in response to my 10 pool, which he shouldn't know about.

his mechanics and decision making are pretty terrible for his MMR, clearly boosted a ton by maphack

[FSBuu]

haha. ahhwellls ! we'll catch those hackers.

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Snx.Mufasa:

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[mGGSouth]

I played Whiteluxury too, I'm not very good at telling if people are hacking but he didn't scout, killed my scouting probe with 1st stalker a bit suspiscously and had some sus interceptions of my nix with stalker. Also told me he stream sniped Pox.

[Nemo]

I have a 4 day vacation starting tomorow, I will watch those.

[syfSoundwave]

Just played llllllllllll (formerly known as ImbaChrisJie)

http://drop.sc/269794

No need for analysis here. He flat out admitted that he's a map hacker. Please excuse my poor play, playing vs someone I know is a map hacker is a new experience for me and I wasn't entirely sure how to react.

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TADivinity:

Just play like normal, they usually suck anyway

[mGGAequitas]

http://drop.sc/270314
WhiteLuxury
100% noob map hacker

0. super cocky arrogant prick
1. never scouts in pvp = hax
2. goes gate -> robo with no units = scrub or hax
3. cancels robo bay and puts down twilight for blink = HAX
4. moves stalkers to intercept phix's with no vision (7:00), phixs move up as do stalker (7:14) = hax
5. moves obs to snipe my own obs twice. First time maybe coincidence. 2nd time 100% haxor. Moves stalkers at 9:29 and blinks down. observer only visible at 9:30. including reaction time and ping no chance in hell of sniping it that fast. = hax
6. really terrible at the game yet is masters (pure stalker with 4 immortals derpy derp) = hax
7. blinks into immortal zealot = ******* retard
8. gets owned

100% conclusive proof that this guy is absolutely terrible at this game and should quit
and that he map hacks too

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mGGNemesis:

You forgot the 'no vision of your entire base' bit :P

[ChoseN]

Originally Posted by sRAequitas

http://drop.sc/270314
WhiteLuxury
100% noob map hacker

0. super cocky arrogant prick
1. never scouts in pvp = hax
2. goes gate -> robo with no units = scrub or hax
3. cancels robo bay and puts down twilight for blink = HAX
4. moves stalkers to intercept phix's with no vision (7:00), phixs move up as do stalker (7:14) = hax
5. moves obs to snipe my own obs twice. First time maybe coincidence. 2nd time 100% haxor. Moves stalkers at 9:29 and blinks down. observer only visible at 9:30. including reaction time and ping no chance in hell of sniping it that fast. = hax
6. really terrible at the game yet is masters (pure stalker with 4 immortals derpy derp) = hax
7. blinks into immortal zealot = ******* retard
8. gets owned

100% conclusive proof that this guy is absolutely terrible at this game and should quit
and that he map hacks too

No wonder, I was feeling SO fishy... he just all in me with 4 marines on daybreak

[Whiteluxury]

Originally Posted by Manly

One does not simply 2 gate proxy in Tal'Darim.
Proxy-ing 2 gate in Tal'Darim is really silly.
He click on the place where i proxy pylon him.
His Nick is Whiteluxury

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/191399150

Originally Posted by sRAequitas

http://drop.sc/270314
WhiteLuxury
100% noob map hacker

0. super cocky arrogant prick
1. never scouts in pvp = hax
2. goes gate -> robo with no units = scrub or hax
3. cancels robo bay and puts down twilight for blink = HAX
4. moves stalkers to intercept phix's with no vision (7:00), phixs move up as do stalker (7:14) = hax
5. moves obs to snipe my own obs twice. First time maybe coincidence. 2nd time 100% haxor. Moves stalkers at 9:29 and blinks down. observer only visible at 9:30. including reaction time and ping no chance in hell of sniping it that fast. = hax
6. really terrible at the game yet is masters (pure stalker with 4 immortals derpy derp) = hax
7. blinks into immortal zealot = ******* retard
8. gets owned

100% conclusive proof that this guy is absolutely terrible at this game and should quit
and that he map hacks too

I was simply messing with you that game.

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/191399150

Originally Posted by ChoseN

No wonder, I was feeling SO fishy... he just all in me with 4 marines on daybreak

I know your playstyle, since we've played many times on ladder. Wasn't hard to counter when I was offracing.

Originally Posted by mGGSouth

I played Whiteluxury too, I'm not very good at telling if people are hacking but he didn't scout, killed my scouting probe with 1st stalker a bit suspiscously and had some sus interceptions of my nix with stalker. Also told me he stream sniped Pox.

I've never stream sniped PoX, I watch his stream, I talk to him regularly. I've also played him many times, he said that others have called me a maphacker, but from the games i've played with him he has said that I don't seem to be a maphacker in his eyes.

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MooZfY:

But aequitas NEVER streams..

[Malice]

Originally Posted by Whiteluxury

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/191399150



I was simply messing with you that game.

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/191399150



I know your playstyle, since we've played many times on ladder. Wasn't hard to counter when I was offracing.



I've never stream sniped PoX, I watch his stream, I talk to him regularly. I've also played him many times, he said that others have called me a maphacker, but from the games i've played with him he has said that I don't seem to be a maphacker in his eyes.

Well regardless of if you're a maphacker or not (I personally think you are), you're stream sniping people in our community, and I don't care, and most of us wouldn't care that it's not bannable. It's rude and a complete dick move.
It's like going into a store and yelling everywhere and acting like a complete dumbass. You're going to get kicked out.

I'm surprised you're even disputing this with the replays and first hand experience some people have had playing you.

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ROCCAT_Savior:

stream snipings fine. calm yourself.

[Pox]

Originally Posted by Whiteluxury

I've never stream sniped PoX, I watch his stream, I talk to him regularly. I've also played him many times, he said that others have called me a maphacker, but from the games i've played with him he has said that I don't seem to be a maphacker in his eyes.

Just thought I'd say this is true - from the few games I've played vs whiteluxury the only fishy thing was a complete lack of scouting. There doesn't seem to be any suspiciously good guesswork - e.g. in the PvP on daybreak he went for a super fast colossus despite me opening phoenix.

Our games: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/313274/pox_whiteluxury.zip

Obviously not a big sample size.

As for streamsniping, I have no idea whether he is or not, but personally have no problem with it. Streamcheating is dodgier.

[mGGAequitas]

Originally Posted by Whiteluxury

I was simply messing with you that game.

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/191399150

I wasn't streaming. and even if i were your movements were too fast like when following the phoenixes.
So why did you cancel your robo bay after scouting nothing?
how do you know where my phoenixes are?
how did you know exactly where my observer was?

why don't you answer any of the points made in the accusations?

[mGGAequitas]

By the way whiteluxury:

Do you realize you aren't meant to lose your entire army and lose the game?
Just a tip

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Pox:

LOL

[MooZfY]

From all the replays I've seen from the player WhiteLuxury it's pretty obvious that he's a hacker..

[Whiteluxury]

Originally Posted by sRAequitas

I wasn't streaming. and even if i were your movements were too fast like when following the phoenixes.
So why did you cancel your robo bay after scouting nothing?
how do you know where my phoenixes are?
how did you know exactly where my observer was?

why don't you answer any of the points made in the accusations?

http://www.twitch.tv/vertiasaequitas/

You've even deleted the VOD.

Originally Posted by sRAequitas

By the way whiteluxury:

Do you realize you aren't meant to lose your entire army and lose the game?
Just a tip

Please stay on topic.

Originally Posted by Av.ToRZooM

From all the replays I've seen from the player WhiteLuxury it's pretty obvious that he's a hacker..

I've never hacked/maphacked ever. That's just rude. I'm now labelled as a maphacker because I streamcheat. If people are going to make their live game publicly available at a high level, they should expect people to snipe/cheat off of that. It's come to the stage where enough people have said that i'm a 'hacker' with no proof, that every other person is doing so aswell.