[ChoseN]

Originally Posted by Nemo

Make sure to make your own analyse when you suspect someone so I know what you saw. In this occasion I could only guess and so might have not seen something you noticed.
Analysis here : http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/329881479

Conclusion
My conclusion is that myfriend was definitly not Maphacking. In those 2 replays, nothing was really suspicious. He used the information he had and reacted accordingly.

There are numerous proofs he was not knowing was you were doing and making moves to be safe where there was no threat or being often surprised by your warp prism, dt's, army position.

Watch my video to understand my conclusion.

You were right anyway to submit the replays if you had doubts. It's our job to help you make the difference.

Cheers !

I've played numerous terrans, and his scouting was really little, yet his timing is very on the point. Tat taldarium altar match, I had to play REALLY safe and his attack was very on the point. You pointed out that he didnt spot many warp prism plays but do realise, he does not move his screen over to the place where my units are in order to prevent obvious maphack, so he's just relying on minimap. For this, he might miss those little things and he only need to notice the planting of the nexus and movement of the opponent's army( both big spots on the minimap.) Moreover, please look at his win rates, vs toss its really high and he beat many good toss players, but not even once had he won vs a high level terran or zerg. I am not saying he maphacks because of this, but since i have played him, I realise the timing and positioning of his army is really really good, the overall feel is just very different as compared to playing a normal terran player. Oh and remember the 2 immortal in the warp prism at the first map, he didnt scout at all before that, and he didnt move his units out a bit, but just nice when the warp prism is moving to his base, he walks to his 3rd and kills the prism. Anyways, its ok if u dont feel that he maphacks, but can more protoss that plays him post replays up?

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by ChoseN

I've played numerous terrans, and his scouting was really little, yet his timing is very on the point.

He scv scout and see the energy on Nexus or the 2ble gate and react accordingly. Look after that the very high number of time he scans during battles.
Tat taldarium altar match, I had to play REALLY safe and his attack was very on the point.[/QUOTE]
First one ?

Originally Posted by ChoseN

You pointed out that he didnt spot many warp prism plays but do realise, he does not move his screen over to the place where my units are in order to prevent obvious maphack, so he's just relying on minimap.

Believe me Map Hackers always react to those, even by reflex. Nearly always. He never reacted to even one of your warp prisms. He was completelly taken by surprise each time. That's very strong evidence he does not MH.

Moreover, please look at his win rates, vs toss its really high and he beat many good toss players, but not even once had he won vs a high level terran or zerg. I am not saying he maphacks because of this,

He might have a very good TvP. That's no way a evidence as you say.

but since i have played him, I realise the timing and positioning of his army is really really good, the overall feel is just very different as compared to playing a normal terran player.

Neither that.

Oh and remember the 2 immortal in the warp prism at the first map, he didnt scout at all before that, and he didnt move his units out a bit, but just nice when the warp prism is moving to his base, he walks to his 3rd and kills the prism.

lol, I haven't seen this the first time I watched it because I was in his vision and I don't think he was aware either that he destroyed it. I understand now why you had doubts about him. That move is suspicious indeed. But I think he was just clearing his 3rd just before taking it. I think you were just unlucky to get caught there with the 2 immortals in the Warp prism. But that's for sure a suspicious move by him.

Anyways, its ok if u dont feel that he maphacks, but can more protoss that plays him post replays up?

No problem. delete, Nirvana, TwooGee, or someone else could one of you double check please ? But I will need to be convinced with strong arguments anyway to put him on the shame list.

[SFTAElessar]

So sad that u we have to do this but thanks

[KJH]

HI guys, this is my first time posting but i have a very high suspicion of this guy called oogaba on sea server...I vsed him 4 times and certains things were way too suspicious.. even my observer said it was somewhat "obvious" that this dude was hacking.. i was wondering what u guys think.. I'll upload th3e reps here
rep1 . http://drop.sc/243516
rep 2 http://drop.sc/243518
rep 3. http://drop.sc/243517

Watch in particular rep 2, he sends first probe straight to my base wihtout knowing for sure i was located there. then at 4:20- 4:50, when i start harassing with my first marine to "stall time" to keep my engin bay alive, he keeps going towards my marine with no apparent vision down the ramp. NOt to mention going straight to my 2nd expo with no scout then at 14;53 he warps in units just as im about to drop. If you watch the games, you will realise he has exceptionally "fast" reaction time when he clearly had no vision at the time. ALso, the only time he has main defences are when im about to drop otherwise he doesnt bother with the defences.. I will like to ask what u guys think.

[Sidoney]

Hi! Ive encountered this guy a few times on ladder, ImbaChrisJie, and he never scouts and always has the right unit mix. That was fine, maybe he was just good but I finally caught him out. I played him 2 times in a row on ladder and first time I went 1 rax FE and he went nexus first. He feels safe without scouting and goes gateway. and I double expand behind it thinking he will be a little scared and he kills me because I was too greedy. Thats cool too.

Game 2 though, I proxy 2 rax he goes nexus first again. He watches my SCV go across the map and then as soon as I plant a rax he looks at it, still without scouting. Then he quickly throws down a forge and some cannons and proceeds to laugh at me. I was pretty pissed at his BM from last game so I went for it and got some bunkers up behind his nexus and killed it. Then I went for some made up 1-1-1 type thing because i know this guy likes DTs. Whilst im back at home he spends so much time looking at my base seeing what im doing. So gay. I beat him anyways which felt good but I knew something was up. So I watched the replay this time and alas I found him.

rep2: http://drop.sc/243671

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by Sidoney

Hi! Ive encountered this guy a few times on ladder, ImbaChrisJie, and he never scouts and always has the right unit mix. That was fine, maybe he was just good but I finally caught him out. I played him 2 times in a row on ladder and first time I went 1 rax FE and he went nexus first. He feels safe without scouting and goes gateway. and I double expand behind it thinking he will be a little scared and he kills me because I was too greedy. Thats cool too.

Game 2 though, I proxy 2 rax he goes nexus first again. He watches my SCV go across the map and then as soon as I plant a rax he looks at it, still without scouting. Then he quickly throws down a forge and some cannons and proceeds to laugh at me. I was pretty pissed at his BM from last game so I went for it and got some bunkers up behind his nexus and killed it. Then I went for some made up 1-1-1 type thing because i know this guy likes DTs. Whilst im back at home he spends so much time looking at my base seeing what im doing. So gay. I beat him anyways which felt good but I knew something was up. So I watched the replay this time and alas I found him.

rep2: http://drop.sc/243671

The Nexus first thing plus forge was possible. It was bad cause you destroyed his Nexus anyway so why not. What bothers me is the permanent poking in your base in Fog of war. I wonder if there could be another reason to do that if not Map Hacking.

I really think he's map hacking but I feel unsafe to put him on the list with just one evidence. I would prefer another replay to streghten my opinion about him.

Thanks for sharing anyway.

PS: Finally the video recorded : http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/331181895

[AuXCoolpuff]

damn them all!

[asdfSchnitzel]

If needed I have a ladder game with OoGaBa that I played recently, didn't notice anything suspicious.

[mGGSouth]

I played oogaba on ladder recently.

- No probe scout, not even for proxies
- Goes blind 1 zealot + 1 stalker straight into stargate
7.52 - Moves phoenix out and kills probe going to build a proxy, first time he has moved anything out of his base
9.25 - Moves forward and kills proxy as soon as it begins building
19.50 - Blink stalker hack???
20.30 - Blinks straight onto proxy
21.00 - Moves entire army to far north of map with no vision on centre of map
23.30 - Blink stalker hack???
- At end of game still hasn't even seen my main or natural

Thanks

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by KJH

HI guys, this is my first time posting but i have a very high suspicion of this guy called oogaba on sea server...I vsed him 4 times and certains things were way too suspicious.. even my observer said it was somewhat "obvious" that this dude was hacking.. i was wondering what u guys think.. I'll upload th3e reps here
rep1 . http://drop.sc/243516
rep 2 http://drop.sc/243518
rep 3. http://drop.sc/243517

Watch in particular rep 2, he sends first probe straight to my base wihtout knowing for sure i was located there. then at 4:20- 4:50, when i start harassing with my first marine to "stall time" to keep my engin bay alive, he keeps going towards my marine with no apparent vision down the ramp. NOt to mention going straight to my 2nd expo with no scout then at 14;53 he warps in units just as im about to drop. If you watch the games, you will realise he has exceptionally "fast" reaction time when he clearly had no vision at the time. ALso, the only time he has main defences are when im about to drop otherwise he doesnt bother with the defences.. I will like to ask what u guys think.

Many Map Hack evidences and proofs in replay one and 2. I didn't bother to watch third one because it was already proven.

Replay analysis
http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/331178829

Originally Posted by mGGSouth

I played oogaba on ladder recently.

- No probe scout, not even for proxies
- Goes blind 1 zealot + 1 stalker straight into stargate
7.52 - Moves phoenix out and kills probe going to build a proxy, first time he has moved anything out of his base
9.25 - Moves forward and kills proxy as soon as it begins building
19.50 - Blink stalker hack???
20.30 - Blinks straight onto proxy
21.00 - Moves entire army to far north of map with no vision on centre of map
23.30 - Blink stalker hack???
- At end of game still hasn't even seen my main or natural

Thanks

Yeah Map Hacker and Blink stalker hack.

Originally Posted by ToRSchnitzel

If needed I have a ladder game with OoGaBa that I played recently, didn't notice anything suspicious.

I did, watch the replay analysis. Not as obvious than other games, but there are still harass interceptions that are more than suspicious.

OoGaBa is placed on proven map hacker list. Thanks all of you for having served the community by posting those replays.

[Theend]

To further reinforce KJH and mGGSouth's claim that OoGaBa map hack.
Have a look and decide for yourself,one important time to take note is when terran try to drop with 3 drop ship.
I was a observer in the game and his game play is obviously not up to mark for a master league. No scouting,poor macro/micro,auto reaction to incoming opp army,bad saturation (just to name a few) these are obvious not qualities sea master player should have.
I personally hate people who cheat,especially those who do not admit it nor skilled.If anyone see this and is still cheating in any form of game.My message to them is : Do yourself a favor and learn to be mature.
PS:I do not know this guy nor have anything against him.I have watch through the replay several times myself and i am just telling the truth!
http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=1937

[TADivinity]

Hey, I was bored at work today and ran into this thread - recognised the name 'imbachrisjie,' as he was the most recent guy I played a couple nights ago.

Thought I'd have a look out of interest. It is *very* suspicious to say the least - considering my match up is also different to Sidoney's.

Notably, he does not send a scout. However he is also a pretty shit player, so maybe he just has some retarded justification for this.

Here's the replay. I made a few notes for specific times to look at. Ill leave it to you to decide if its shifty or not.
http://drop.sc/247809

4:00: Looks @ 3rd. I assume he is checking if the dot on the map is a drone or not (assuming he hacks)
4:38: Weird camera action..possible missclick? Or checking the tower?
4:49: Definitely checks the tower. Dont think he moved a unit there either
6:55-59: ***This is the dodgiest part. He cancels his forward pylon for no reason. When you turn my vision on, you see im actually sending an OL in that direction. This point is the only reason why Im posting here. It is super shifty
~9:00: He has a good look in my main base. This is the first time he really did this, but he had no reason to.
9:20 looks in my main again, but I think he was rallying DTs. not sure.

Anyway, do with this what you will. I can kind of accept that he just went blind DTs and so didnt scout bcos bad. But cancelling the pylon was just odd.

Quick Comments

Nemo:

Thanks ! Will watch this this week-end

[mGGNemesis]

Hi... I know it's mostly 1v1 games posted here but this is a 2v2 game.

http://drop.sc/248050

The player, abking, was my random teammate and I suspected that he maphacks when he went straight to the opponent's side (4 bases so how do u know it's that one in particular?) and tried to cannon rush them (which failed). But I didn't know for sure (he could be doing some random thing) so I played out the game but did my own scouting even though he said to share control (usually for double toss I would share control anyway esp if requested so that we can have a huge deathball). Though at various pts of the game, I was controlling my own units as well and scouting on my own.

At one pt, I sent my units to kill a rock when he suddenly took control of my units to attack the terran's army. When I watched the replay, I saw him looking at a fog just before that moment, so I believe he must have saw them coming and so grabbed them from me at that moment... further making me more suspicious.

After that I got a clannie to watch the replay and myself the next day, and am very sure he did maphack because he would look at the fog of war many times in the game.

The reason why I'm posting this is because he also does 1s and is gold if I'm not mistaken.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by mGGNemesis

Hi... I know it's mostly 1v1 games posted here but this is a 2v2 game.

http://drop.sc/248050

The player, abking, was my random teammate and I suspected that he maphacks when he went straight to the opponent's side (4 bases so how do u know it's that one in particular?) and tried to cannon rush them (which failed). But I didn't know for sure (he could be doing some random thing) so I played out the game but did my own scouting even though he said to share control (usually for double toss I would share control anyway esp if requested so that we can have a huge deathball). Though at various pts of the game, I was controlling my own units as well and scouting on my own.

At one pt, I sent my units to kill a rock when he suddenly took control of my units to attack the terran's army. When I watched the replay, I saw him looking at a fog just before that moment, so I believe he must have saw them coming and so grabbed them from me at that moment... further making me more suspicious.

After that I got a clannie to watch the replay and myself the next day, and am very sure he did maphack because he would look at the fog of war many times in the game.

The reason why I'm posting this is because he also does 1s and is gold if I'm not mistaken.

I think he's map hacking too. I would like another replay to confirm.

Replay analysis : http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/331486217

[syfSoundwave]

I played ImbaChrisJie today. I want to help out the situation with this guy.

Here's the replay. I thought while playing that his lack of scouting for AGES was suspicious, but I didn't analyze the rep, I'll leave that to you guys.

http://drop.sc/248353

What do you think?

Quick Comments

TADivinity:

save nemo time and just fly through the replay with the camera on him & see if he looked at anything odd

[Nemo]

Games of http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/331484046ImbaChrisJie against TADivinity and Soundwave:
http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/331484046

My conclusion is that he is a Map Hacker for the reasons cited in the replay analysis and by Divinity.

In the game of Soundwave, when you watch carefully, you see he knew the hatch was there and just sent the drone to "detect it" without being too suspect.

Placed on the hacker list.

Quick Comments

	syfSoundwave:	Thanks for the analysis!
	ToRDarKnoob:	this guy is a hacker played him multiple times

[Zealo]

Originally Posted by Nemo

Games of http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/331484046ImbaChrisJie against TADivinity and Soundwave:
http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/331484046

i have 3 replays vs ImbaChrisJie (all 2v2) dated 29/02, 29/02, 22/05

i am confident he is not hacking in any of these

Quick Comments

mGGNemesis:

Feb and May would be old replays...

[syfSoundwave]

Originally Posted by Zealo

i have 3 replays vs ImbaChrisJie (all 2v2) dated 29/02, 29/02, 22/05

i am confident he is not hacking in any of these

Irrelevant. ImbaChrisJie is now a barcode. I played said barcode on ladder, and he reacted when I called him out on being ImbaChrisJie. I told him I knew his secret and he said "Yes, I maphack."

So, he flat out admitted it.

[mGGNemesis]

I have met him in earlier 2v2s as opposing but unfortunately I have deleted most of my team replays If I meet him again, I'll keep an eye out for this.

[SmirkToT]

saw a thread in TL today, and curiously i saw this.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=367257
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and i tried it.



another option

should check many past replays