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Unread Tue, 1st-Mar-2011, 3:37 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: eehanProAnnn.969  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 694 # 1
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Smurphing is fine. In fact it is downright useful! I bought a second account to learn to play protoss and terran on, and to use to roadtest crazy zerg ideas. This works out great as my toss and terran are both about low diamond (I dont even know basic openers!), making it a perfect playground for crazy-idea roadtesting.

BUT the line is drawn at wankers who use smurf accounts (or rating tank, essentially the same thing) just to play in a skill-capped tournament. I would never consider playing my diamond account in the GPD, even on my legitimate diamond-skill-level races. It is cheating the terms of the tournament and a downright disgraceful thing to do. Community bans for proven offenders IMHO
I disagree with your statement. I actually and IN FACT joined GPD with my diamond account protoss since my protoss is ACTUALLY at a diamond level. I think it is legitimate to join GPD with a diamond acc on a different race since the level of play isnt very low and playing with an off-race at a diamond level is not cheating in the tournament. However, if you are at master level at zerg for example, and join GPD as zerg, i think it is cheating and smurfing and is really an offence. This is only in the case of GPD. Anyone above diamond SHOULD NOT smurf in BSG EVEN with their off-race since their mechanics EVEN with their off-race should be slightly above gold standard.
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Unread Tue, 1st-Mar-2011, 4:01 PM BnetId: Ivan.448  Race: Location: Singapore, Singapore  Total Posts Made: 165 # 2
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Well, I know bronze players who've consistently beat silver and gold players. But also consistently lost to cheese in bronze. Sometimes, bronze players play really badly for say the first 200 games, for whatever reason, so even if they win against a higher ranked player, they stay in bronze. I think your win rate has to spike past 50% to get promoted. If you start winning say, 80% of your plays suddenly, but lost like 40 games, you'd still a) have to stabilise where you're at and have 40 wins, and b) you'll have to consistently win the next few games to push up your win percentage rating. You could foreseeably see a 1000 game bronze level player have fantastic understanding of his race and great mechanics, but he won't move beyond bronze until he's started winning games beyond 50%.
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Unread Wed, 2nd-Mar-2011, 7:46 PM BnetId: nGenXeen.438  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 380 # 3
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This isn't surprising for a tournament that has an arbitrary 'you must be below this skill level to play', when the promotion system can be particularly fickle as it is, and skill can widely vary in divisions.

Easiest solution would be to not have tournaments that players can be 'too good' for.

Not sure why you made a thread with the title completely misrepresenting your topic, though. I'm with Benji, enough of this.
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Unread Wed, 2nd-Mar-2011, 11:53 PM BnetId: HDPhoenix.202  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 560 # 4
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If I may add my proverbial 2 cents into the pot

I think people have forgotten the point of BSG. It is to improve, and encourage players who would never think of entering a 'pro' tournament, a chance to compete.

The key word is compete. Can you enter a tournament and be horribly mismatched? It happens all the time, and the weaker one usually gets creamed in epic fashion.

Who learns more? The winner or the loser? Of course the loser and he will improve far more because of the lost.

Isn't it awesome to win a tournament, even if it is a free 'for-funies' tournament? OF COURSE! Is that the main motivation for you to enter BSG? No, it shouldn't be. BSG is meant for you to cut your teeth in tournament stress and pressure and see how you can improve. If you get tossed against a plat/dia/master/grandmaster SMURF, get creamed but learnt from it, I would say that's worth it

And I hate to bring in a harsh reality. Even if you win a BSG, so what? There is just a small amount of personal pride in that. There is FAR more personal pride and joy if you can see your personal improvement throughout the various BSG and see your own growth.

Just saying. Focus on what matters. The details will sort itself

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Unread Thu, 3rd-Mar-2011, 4:30 AM BnetId: DRFT.394  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 108 # 5
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Interesting.... they wil pay for their crimes
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