[breadfan]

Congrats to DeNile, Rogue and Chad for the performances, and everyone else who participated and gave it their all

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

c) compliment and find positives in games. No one wants to watch you rip on silver and bronze players.
d) if your going to talk about negatives in the game, talk about the constructively - so when the players go back and watch the VOD they can learn from their mistakes.

I think the most important thing for casters to realise is who their audience is. I think it's far more likely that the audience for a BSG tournament will consist of mostly BSG players (not exclusively, but they are the majority) and that for these smaller events, the players themselves are probably going to make up the bulk of the audience.

Cast to your audience. Don't cast to MLG's.

And Stinger, congratulations on the event. It seemed to run smoothly and I'm sorry there's this blemish. My advice to you would be, you don't always need to fix problems. It might feel wonderful to be the guy who solves the problem, but more often than not when it comes to real people, you can't just whack on a band aid and kiss it better. PiG had some wonderful advice, I hope you take it to heart. But as I said, kudos on a well-run tournament and I hope to make it to the next one

[iVnStinger]

@Dot
That's true as well. But hey it's the internet, it's how things work. No point getting upset over it. Rather you should be mature about it, and just go with it. People may not back you up, people may. But arguing about it will get you no where. The most you can do is get an apology from them, but what does that do? Nothing.

It' just my personal opinion that I feel it isn't worth fighting about. But I understand your need to display your satisfaction and I respect that as long as you keep it polite.

@QEDDeNile

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TAEdarus:

So "coz its the net" its ok to be a dick to our community?

[Celldweller]

<me being a tool>
10char

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	FaDeBadger:	Show some respect
	syfChadMann:	If you were manner it wouldn't have mattered. l2 cast.
	iM yang:	don't talk trash when you're trash yourself mate
	TAminimat:	..|..
	Fourby:	man so rude..
	TADivinity:	..|..
	Synizta:	Please shut up.
	Maynarde:	Respect at all times on this forum
	ROOTPetraeus:	I'm disappointed,
	breadfan:	solid response
	TAEdarus:	..|..
	TABottles:	Now you've done it

[ToRSpookToR]

are people really getting annoyed by someone being bm on the internet? not that i was targeted at all but just seems like a whole who hah over nothing just dont invite the guy to cast or /ignore problem solved

[Nemo]

Congratulations Denile, Rogue and ChadMann !

Originally Posted by Spo0k

are people really getting annoyed by someone being bm on the internet? not that i was targeted at all but just seems like a whole who hah over nothing just dont invite the guy to cast or /ignore problem solved

This is not the Internet, this is sc2sea. And not respecting people in the community is not allowed, whatever their sc2 level.

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	FaDeBadger:	Like a boss
	ToRSpookToR:	fair enough :)
	x5_dot:
	nirvAnA:	damn right son!
	Asrathiel:	Well said
	mGGNemesis:
	TAEdarus:

[iM yang]

Making fun of people you know and are friends with is perfectly ok. This happens with myself a tonne as I am a pretty fun-loving guy.

Making fun of people you don't know in a tournament setting is ridiculous. You should treat people respectfully and courteously without exception. The fact that he even came in this thread with that attitude is disgusting.
Clearly rogue is not happy with the casting, 'taking jokes the wrong way' is your own damn fault and you should apologise for being a dick. Otherwise you can get the hell out of the community as far as I am concerned

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	syfChadMann:	yep.

[iVnStinger]

Ok people, this is unfair. I posted this thread about congratulating the winners and not getting pissed at the casters. You guys are putting me on the spot because I'm faced with the same situation as I was with iVnFictioN. I am sick and tired of having to be the middle person for other people's problems.

This is the chat log with Rogue:

You: ?
femFxRogue: i never did any fighting
so i dont know
what you want me to do
You: well
femFxRogue: all i did, was say how i honestly feel about this situation
You: posting on forums saying you 2 cleared it would be nice
you are not satisfied with what he said
if you'd like him to apologize just tell him
because if no one says it's settled already on forums
its just going to be a page of bullshit against him in the morning
for making jokes that were misunderstood
sound fair?

I am sorry if I was misunderstood Rogue, but I am trying to solve a problem. I just wanted you two to solve it, because as you can see no one is happy with how it's going.

Now I bet I'm going to get flamed. Why? Because I didn't use the standard response, "Omg you are such a douchebag celldweller". I'm sorry but I disagree. This is between them not us, why must we always get in the middle of things to take sides? They are adults, let them solve their own problems.

This thread has run it's course but not served it's purpose. (my fault sadly) Please close this admins.

[iM yang]

Surprisingly enough, people voice their opinions on forums. Amazing! If this was not made public then people might go on to think that celldweller was a good caster because he had done it before. Now people know that he is trash and merely rips on players trying their best.

People who try to be funny by belittling other people shouldn't be encouraged.

[iVnStinger]

Ok, Daynine apologized already. There is nothing left he can do, and nothing we can argue about. I am voicing my opinion that I feel people shouldn't get in the middle of things. And according to you, it's ok to voice opinions. Just saying...

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by iVnStinger

Ok, Daynine apologized already. There is nothing left he can do, and nothing we can argue about. I am voicing my opinion that I feel people shouldn't get in the middle of things. And according to you, it's ok to voice opinions. Just saying...

Am I blind or did he not apologise? His behaviour offended more than just Rogue, so it's a public apology or GTFO.

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	Synizta:
	syfChadMann:

[iVnStinger]

Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

Am I blind or did he not apologise? His behaviour offended more than just Rogue, so it's a public apology or GTFO.

No, I'm sorry. You can hate me for it but he has to apologize TO ROGUE. Not to you, or anyone else on these forums. You can say that he is spoiling e-sports and whatever but at the end of the day, he was rude to Rogue.

And he asked me to post it for him. (that he said it to her)

[FaDeBadger]

Not good enough. Simple as that. I guarantee you I'm not the only one who will think it. As far as I'm concerned the community is better off without him.

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TAEdarus:

[iVnStinger]

*sigh* What is there left for me to say? No matter what I say or what opinion I have, I'm always wrong. I apologize then.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by iVnStinger

*sigh* What is there left for me to say? No matter what I say or what opinion I have, I'm always wrong. I apologize then.

You did nothing.. your event went well. This is not directed at you - your event went well.. we are all grateful that you ran it and hope you do it again.. Just next time, without Daynine casting.

EDIT: he apologised while I was writing this.. good for him. I hope he takes this and turns it constructively. plan your casts to have something to say during the down time.. and put on a cheery persona.. the people like happiness!

Sidenote: I hope someone google's Daynine cast and gets this thread.. it would be a total lol.. >.<

[FaDeBadger]

You have nothing to apologise for. He does. The very fact that he is letting you wear the brunt of the repercussions of his actions shows what sort of person he really is.

[iM yang]

How could you assume that it's a private matter? There are clearly there are people who not only are concerned he was rude to Rogue but also that he would disrespect anybody in a tournament run in our community where he was casting.

Do you think that people might not look at this and assume this is our we treat our BSG players? They may not but what if they did, our community is already small enough we don't need idiots making us look anything other than what we are, a loving community.

[Celldweller]

alright, I understand what i did was really bad on all accounts, I'm not going to make an excuse for it, the fact of the matter is, yes, i shouldn't be someone casting tournaments, I don't have a positive outlook on things like many of you do, and yes I do use other people's misfortunes to humour myself. I also know it isn't a good thing to do, and I shouldn't fill in or create oppurtunities where I can do this to people.
sorry to everyone that has been offended by my casting abilities (or lack thereof)

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Nemo:

Good appologies :)

[iVnStinger]

I agree, but look at it this way. What if I never posted this thread and nothing about this came out. He apologized to her and he doesn't do it in the future. Would everyone not rather have that?

That's how I see it, maybe I suck at proving my point, and that's why I keep coming off as an asshole. But you gotta understand, I organized a tournament and the biggest highlight of it is how the casting was not very nice to the players.

[mGGDrGooSe]

I feel this situation is now coming to a close and so I hesitate to fuel to a dead fire, but I think it needs to be said that your opinion of it being "other people problems" is very erroneous (and hopinh was just a slip of the tongue). As the event organiser, everything that occurs in the event is your responsibility, so when somebody is upset with what happens, it's on you. Now Im not saying you didnt do enough to settle the situation, because you are clearly doing your best and people are still behind you 100% for giving this a go, but slips like this just need to be pointed out; that the person at the top is always personally responsible for the actions of every person below them makes, because you put them there. Sad to see things go so poorly, and hopefully this doesn't stop you from doing more in the future, just please get some background information on your underlings in future.

I sincerely hope you organise another event in due time, so that we can forget any negativity that happened and instead enjoy this, our community at sc2sea.

[iVnStinger]

Originally Posted by Drgoose

. As the event organiser, everything that occurs in the event is your responsibility, so when somebody is upset with what happens, it's on you. .

That's the sad truth.....